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Iron Butt
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New York State | Arkainzeye - 2011-07-28 6:38 PM
i say if you need more room get a trunk rack?. that should close the gap a little close to the XC. im surely NOT going to buy a new bike to gain 12 more gallons of storage (to match the xc tour) id just get a trunk rack and close the gap a little closer.
Just got the trunk rack Postal worker handed it to me I un wraped it and I have to say it is not impressive
The underside is unfinnished the upper almost polished looking. I know installed the underside will be obstructed but to finish both sides just seems to be a given to me. |
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Iron Butt
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Orlando, FL | phoenix9 - 2011-07-29 12:33 PM
5 years to develop, $20M to design/engineer/test, all the molds and part designs have long since been paid for, they now share all structural/internal components with their best selling cross bikes, and their manufacturing line is capable of producing any bike at any moment in time.....sooooo, when the only cost incurred is pulling a part off the shelf, why would they obsolete this bike?
That argument makes no sense at all. Just because they have paid for the RD and the tooling doesn't make it viable to keep. Ask any car co. Same Same. It's about sales. Sales makes the cash flow go round baby. And it's all about cash flow. The XC is doing what they hoped the Vision would do and couldn't. People wanted the traditional bike styling. I would be willing to bet that for the last 2 years sales of Visions have trailed off while the XC has taken off in a parabolic rise. I think there is a very good possibility the Vision may go the way of the Tucker (a car WAY ahead of it's time!) JMHO |
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Cruiser
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Litchfield Park, AZ | Maddmax, your statement makes sense if the Vision is not selling, but as I said before, ask any dealer and you will find that the Vision is the #2 best selling bike that Victory makes. Do they obsolete the Vegas, and the Kingpin, and the Hammer, and the Jackpot, and the Cross Roads as well?
My previous post makes perfect sense when you are discussing a manufacturer's #2 best selling bike. I find it interesting that H-D has room for 5 different touring options (RK, SG, RG, EG, UCEG), but Victory should not offer 2 options in the XC and Vision. Even Yamaha and Kawasaki have more touring options than Victory.
Not a lot of car companies that would be interested in doing away with their number 2 best selling model....especially when it shares that exact same platform as their #1 best selling model.
Edited by phoenix9 2011-07-29 11:03 PM
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| The #2 selling bike in there lineup??????where did you get thoses numbers? I would be impressed if it was in the top 5. |
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Cabot Arkansas | My local dealer sell's more CC's followed CLOSELY by vision's, than all the other bikes combined.He said several people have come in to buy a CC and then after riding them and the Vision bought the Vision.The price difference between the CC and the Vision had been the deciding factor in a few of his sales,now that the Vision cost less than the CC Tour he actually expects Vision sales to increase at least for the people wanting a full touring version.Time will tell but I don't think the Vision is going anywhere but up. |
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Iron Butt
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Orlando, FL | mgoblue - 2011-07-30 12:23 AM
The #2 selling bike in there lineup??????where did you get thoses numbers? I would be impressed if it was in the top 5.
Thanks for the support. Everyone is posting heresay and conjucture. Including me. WHo care's what your dealer says unless he is willing to share national sales numbers. Well, my dealer said this, my dealer said that. Nanny nanny boo boo. Come on, we need facts. Someone on this board must be privy to sales numbers. Or at least precent of sales for the bikes Vic sells. Anyone?? |
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Iron Butt
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New York State | I purchased one 2008 Victory Vision Tour Premium in black in September 2008.
I have made no further purchases of motorcycles off of Victory.
Theres the real problem once you buy one you don't need another one.
Unlike a brand X purchase usually generates a sale for Ford's truck division
Edited by Trekwolf164 2011-07-30 7:58 AM
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Cruiser
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Litchfield Park, AZ | Yeah, that guy willing to share the Victory sales numbers is located just down the hall, right next to the leprechaun and the pot of gold.... |
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Visionary
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New Bohemia, Va | I love these discussions where everybody's right, and everybody's wrong - all good guesses. Like any marketing to sell products it is for the bottomline. Many understand for a sustainable bottomline you've got to hit that market niche that produces the best curve of supply and demand. Victory has got that right now with dependability and style that is primarily different than the other guys. But different doesn't always make the grade, and the small, and do mean the very small sect of those of us who follow Victory will not sustain the long haul if the big majority wants nostalgia and tradition - simple, very simple fact. The best we can hope for that Victory will still whit our whistle for our desire of what we want. Frankly, if Harley could have made a bike that rode like a Vision, I'd have a closet full of HD crap as long as the bike would be as dependable as the Victory. But, frankly, they may get close to making their bikes better riding, but they won't get the other things down to a T like Victory. Now, with all that said, watch the Indians under polaris, they'll take the timeless tradition of the this old brand and bring in the dependablity and ride of Victory, and there will be a winning combo that will shake, really shake Harleys foundation. Maybe it won't topple it, but it will cause HD to rethink how they do business. |
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Lumber Bridge, NC United States | very well said, Capt. |
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Just another Bike Company
