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jjp53
Posted 2012-10-13 8:48 AM (#125166 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Cruiser

Posts: 78
Gilroy, Ca
That sounds pretty good Sgiacci and you say that it doesn't have to be remapped
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willtill
Posted 2012-10-13 9:32 AM (#125167 - in reply to #125152)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


Visionary

Posts: 1365
Central Maryland
sgiacci - 2012-10-12 11:37 PM

One cheap ass muffler modification that is super simple to do - no welding.

Get a 5/8" x 12" drill bit for $20, take the tip off and cut the center out of it. Remember to retain the outer trim ring so you can reattach it. Then drill 6-8 holes in a pattern around the center exhaust while the pipe is still on the bike. MAKE SURE YOU DO IT PARALLEL WITH THE PIPE, if you don't, you will drill through the side of the pipe. Put the tip back on and your done.

Your Vision will no longer sound like a sewing machine, and it will still be fairly quiet so you can enjoy the tunes and keep the neighbors happy.

Most of the back pressure is retained so you don't need to remap the ECM. I have been running it like this for over 2 years now, and it works great.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bkteU2MrTl4


sgiacci , are you drilling through just one plate; or is there another one behind it that you are drilling holes into, as well?
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sgiacci
Posted 2012-10-14 8:10 PM (#125218 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


Tourer

Posts: 401
No remapping needed since much of the back pressure is retained. The bike rarely backfires.

The tip plate doesn't count since I cut it off, and I believe I went through both plates.

Edited by sgiacci 2012-10-14 8:10 PM
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johnnyvision
Posted 2012-10-15 5:55 PM (#125256 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Visionary

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stock baffles on a stock vision muffler



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willtill
Posted 2012-10-15 6:17 PM (#125260 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Visionary

Posts: 1365
Central Maryland
For the life of me, I cannot find a 5/8" x 12" drill bit around here..... I had previously did the Thrush Mod but the old lady didn't like it... so I put it back together as stock. Still want a little rumble though...so I'm interested in doing this cheap mod.


Where in the hell are 12" drill bits (in 5/8) ....?

Edited by willtill 2012-10-15 6:17 PM
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sgiacci
Posted 2012-10-17 10:22 AM (#125337 - in reply to #125260)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Tourer

Posts: 401
willtill - 2012-10-15 6:17 PM

For the life of me, I cannot find a 5/8" x 12" drill bit around here..... I had previously did the Thrush Mod but the old lady didn't like it... so I put it back together as stock. Still want a little rumble though...so I'm interested in doing this cheap mod.


Where in the hell are 12" drill bits (in 5/8) ....?


Your right, I'm having a hard time finding one on the internet too. I will remeasure the bit make sure it isn't a 1/2".

I cna't remember if got mine at Home Depot or Lowes, but it is used for running wire, and is designed to go through wood and light metal (nails didn't slow it down much).
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ByteN2it
Posted 2012-10-17 2:21 PM (#125349 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Tourer

Posts: 482
Beer Collins, Colorado (there is no fort)
You need a 5/8" Hole Saw bit & extension-there are other cheaper brands, you could probably put something together at Harbor Freight-just don't plan on using it more than once.
http://www.milwaukeetool.com/accessories/drilling-accessories/hole-...
http://www.milwaukeetool.com/accessories/drilling-accessories/exten...
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ByteN2it
Posted 2012-10-17 2:43 PM (#125350 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Tourer

Posts: 482
Beer Collins, Colorado (there is no fort)
You need a 5/8" Hole Saw bit & extension-there are other cheaper brands, you could probably put something together at Harbor Freight-just don't plan on using it more than once.
http://www.milwaukeetool.com/accessories/drilling-accessories/hole-...
http://www.milwaukeetool.com/accessories/drilling-accessories/exten...
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sgiacci
Posted 2012-10-18 8:03 AM (#125386 - in reply to #125350)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Tourer

Posts: 401
ByteN2it - 2012-10-17 2:43 PM

You need a 5/8" Hole Saw bit & extension-there are other cheaper brands, you could probably put something together at Harbor Freight-just don't plan on using it more than once.
http://www.milwaukeetool.com/accessories/drilling-accessories/hole-...
http://www.milwaukeetool.com/accessories/drilling-accessories/exten...


Warning!!! Don't do that. Extensions and hole saws will wobble, and they will shred the plates inside. Also if you hit one of the tubes they will not easily self guide into them.

Nice try though...

Edited by sgiacci 2012-10-18 8:03 AM
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ByteN2it
Posted 2012-10-18 10:45 AM (#125393 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Tourer

Posts: 482
Beer Collins, Colorado (there is no fort)
This is what I had heard people used for drilling out bike exhausts-I don't have any personal experience doing this mod and certianley don't want to give anyone a bum steer- Thank you for the correction/warning.
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Monkeyman
Posted 2012-10-19 12:49 AM (#125406 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Iron Butt

Posts: 1066
Peru, IN
If you're going to drill out then entire center of the baffles (that have "generic" style baffles to begin with), a hole saw is exactly what you need. I can see having issues with a hole saw in this mod. That's a weird looking baffle.
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sgiacci
Posted 2012-10-23 1:22 PM (#125583 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


Tourer

Posts: 401
Sticky / locked throttle solution.

Have you ever had the throttle get stuck open when it gets hot out or if you use the heated grips?

Well we talked about this about 2 years ago.

The cheap simple solution is:

Take the bar weight off, get some sand paper, and sand a little of the rubber grip end down so you have a slightly larger space between the bar weight and the grip. Then smooth up the edge of the grip (NOT the grip) with rubber dressing (Armorall or Meguires). Put the the weight back on and your done.

Did mine 2 years ago and it hasn't gotten stuck since then.
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Nozzledog
Posted 2012-10-29 5:51 PM (#125879 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


Visionary

Posts: 1228
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
I have just added to the Tech Reference instructions for

ADDING FRONT TURN SIGNAL LEDs and LOAD EQUALIZERS
http://www.vision-riders.com/bb/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=12778&po...

and

FRONT TURN SIGNAL INNER BULB MOD.
http://www.vision-riders.com/bb/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=12777&po...

The inner bulb mod is only a few bucks and makes the front a lot more noticeable when turning.
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Udnudn1968
Posted 2012-10-29 6:02 PM (#125880 - in reply to #125879)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 33
Great write ups Nozzledog!
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Tims_11Vision
Posted 2012-11-01 12:43 AM (#126032 - in reply to #125260)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Cruiser

Posts: 143
Lexington Park, MD
willtill - 2012-10-15 7:17 PM

For the life of me, I cannot find a 5/8" x 12" drill bit around here..... I had previously did the Thrush Mod but the old lady didn't like it... so I put it back together as stock. Still want a little rumble though...so I'm interested in doing this cheap mod.


Just did it today and wound up using a regular 1/2" bit with chrome tips removed for easier access putting 7 holes in each after cutting off the angled pipe tip.. My measurement process when out the window, not sure how but they look pretty semetrical. Drilled a pilot then 1/2 staying closer to the center of the pipe. Good low end rumble, got a nice crack to it when you blip it or get on it but while remaining calm on the throttle it sounds great. I am not sure if I actually want to try to drill through the 2nd ring or not with a 12" bit. Will see how I like this. My neighbor heard me leave and thought I tood my TC out with Level 1's on it. The differnence was, my TC I try to creep out and back in the court and neighbor hood (I work 3rd shift) without making a ton of noise and when I was on the VV tonight I was hittin it as soon as I cleared the drive so that was a good test for me. With cruise on, nice solid rumble. Thanks again Steve for the tip and most importantly the pics!!!!

Tim

Edited by Tims_11Vision 2012-11-01 12:46 AM
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sgiacci
Posted 2013-02-10 7:12 PM (#130689 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Tourer

Posts: 401
Bump
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cook06vegas
Posted 2013-02-10 7:41 PM (#130690 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


Tourer

Posts: 373
Lansing, MI

Have a Vic with corrosion under the clear coat on the forks / trees? Want to make it look good again. Here's my cheap way out:

Paint stripper, wire wheel on a drill and then 80 grit emery cloth followed up by sanding the parts in the same pattern / grain as the factory "brush" marks...

Maybe recoat with clear paint...




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sgiacci
Posted 2013-05-20 2:19 PM (#139250 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Tourer

Posts: 401
You guys are slowing up on me, don't we have any more new cheap solutions out there?
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Nozzledog
Posted 2013-05-20 5:13 PM (#139259 - in reply to #139250)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Visionary

Posts: 1228
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
sgiacci - 2013-05-20 12:19 PM

You guys are slowing up on me, don't we have any more new cheap solutions out there?


I made my own 1/4 turn throttle ring out of 2 1/4" PVC pipe. Works perfectly. Hope that feeds your need.
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sgiacci
Posted 2013-05-21 12:17 PM (#139307 - in reply to #139259)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Tourer

Posts: 401
Nozzledog - 2013-05-20 5:13 PM

sgiacci - 2013-05-20 12:19 PM

You guys are slowing up on me, don't we have any more new cheap solutions out there?


I made my own 1/4 turn throttle ring out of 2 1/4" PVC pipe. Works perfectly. Hope that feeds your need.


Hmm, you have my attention, any pictures?
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Nozzledog
Posted 2013-05-21 3:53 PM (#139317 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


Visionary

Posts: 1228
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Hacksaw & sander.



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Nozzledog
Posted 2013-05-21 5:41 PM (#139327 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Visionary

Posts: 1228
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
My mistake, it is not 2 1/4" PVC. Not sure where I got that number.. 1.38" I.D. , 1.65" O.D.
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sgiacci
Posted 2013-09-12 12:06 PM (#144409 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Tourer

Posts: 401
fall bump
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a99miata
Posted 2013-09-13 9:45 AM (#144448 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Tourer

Posts: 423
northwest florida
Pad Dash..i use to sleep on my bike but my snoring was distracting to the other drivers at the traffic light.
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sgiacci
Posted 2013-11-15 2:09 PM (#148893 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Tourer

Posts: 401
Cheap (free) solution that fixes the trunk rattle:

http://www.vision-riders.com/bb/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=4231&pos...
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