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Mongo
Posted 2009-11-24 12:11 AM (#48341)
Subject: Metric or Standard


Cruiser

Posts: 153
Newnan, GA
Is the Vision a metric or standard?

Common sense would suggest that it's a standard bike. However, my truck and car (both U.S. brands) seem to be mostly metric.
I have a good selection of metric and standard tools so I should be covered.
Just curious.

Van
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buddahead
Posted 2009-11-24 12:48 AM (#48342 - in reply to #48341)
Subject: Re: Metric or Standard


Cruiser

Posts: 238
SF Bay Area
Metric, like all other Vics have been since 1998 (yes, 1998).
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Lone Ranger
Posted 2009-11-24 7:01 AM (#48346 - in reply to #48341)
Subject: Re: Metric or Standard


Tourer

Posts: 447
Cleveland, GA
So is metric the new standard? :-)
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Victory1
Posted 2009-11-24 7:33 AM (#48347 - in reply to #48341)
Subject: RE: Metric or Standard


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 36
most bikes that want to compete in a global economy are metric, since that is the global standard.
We as Americans were supposed to convert years ago, harley claimed at the time they could not re-tool, and would go out of businees, or suffer a financial hardship. They have been allowed to stay standard with existing models, when they can out with the V-rod a new product, they use metric fasteners. I believe this is fairly accurate.

John
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varyder
Posted 2009-11-24 9:02 AM (#48349 - in reply to #48341)
Subject: RE: Metric or Standard


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
for you red-blooded Americans defending all what she stands for, including American Standard sizes, here is a compromise, I mean, conversion chart to print and tape in your tool-box.

Edited by varyder 2009-11-24 9:05 AM




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Mongo
Posted 2009-11-24 9:03 AM (#48350 - in reply to #48341)
Subject: RE: Metric or Standard


Cruiser

Posts: 153
Newnan, GA
That's Cool. Thanks guys.
How big a deal is it to remove the rear tire and oil changes?
The Goldwing was a bit of a pain with the Air filter but the rear wheel was pretty easy.
Oil changes were a snap, taking about 5 min.

As always,
Thanks

Van

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Mongo
Posted 2009-11-24 9:18 AM (#48351 - in reply to #48349)
Subject: RE: Metric or Standard


Cruiser

Posts: 153
Newnan, GA
Not very sure where your going with this. What I wanted to know was whether I had the tools that I needed. My metric tools out number my standard tools.

Van

Edit note: OK now I see what you were talking about. The chart was missing.


varyder - 2009-11-24 9:02 AM

for you red-blooded American's defending all what she stands for, including American Standard sizes, here is a compromise, I mean, conversion chart to print and tape in your tool-box.


Edited by Mongo 2009-11-24 9:20 AM
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kevinx
Posted 2009-11-24 9:23 AM (#48352 - in reply to #48341)
Subject: Re: Metric or Standard


Visionary

Posts: 1340
Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators
Rear tire is the easiest Vic tire going. no need to even adjust the belt during swap. Oil change could not be easier

Careful with that chart from earlier. a 10mm will strip a 3/8 if it is slightly tight, and while a 9/16 will work on a loose 14mm...often a 14mm will not fit a 9/16

Edited by kevinx 2009-11-24 9:25 AM
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varyder
Posted 2009-11-24 9:35 AM (#48354 - in reply to #48341)
Subject: Re: Metric or Standard


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
I guess I should have put my recommendation in there to use a Six-point socket or wrench and to be careful as this is not an absolute because of minute details in sizes. However, a 5/8 is an exact match to 16mm. I point that out because I search the world over for a 16mm allen for the front axle only to find a 5/8 will fit and are a dime a dozen.
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VisionTex
Posted 2009-11-24 3:18 PM (#48371 - in reply to #48352)
Subject: Re: Metric or Standard


Visionary

Posts: 1484
LaPorte,Tx.
kevinx - 2009-11-24 8:23 AM

Rear tire is the easiest Vic tire going. no need to even adjust the belt during swap. Oil change could not be easier

Careful with that chart from earlier. a 10mm will strip a 3/8 if it is slightly tight, and while a 9/16 will work on a loose 14mm...often a 14mm will not fit a 9/16


Kevin, you must have the touch, to change out the rear tire and not have to readjust the belt...WOW! I've done the rear tire change 4 times on my Vision and had to adjust the belt everytime.

Taking the tire off takes about 10 minutes or less. Getting it back on about the same time, but helps to have a second person. Oil changes are 15 minutes...more if you have a couple of adult beverages to pass the time while that last drop of oil drips!
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varyder
Posted 2009-11-24 4:35 PM (#48377 - in reply to #48341)
Subject: Re: Metric or Standard


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
hmmmmm, I'll try "the no belt adjustment in about 12,000 miles" but it is plausible since the belt is loose already. I usually spin off the adjuster just before I put it back on, and then adjust them up again. That would be a stepped saved. Remember, if you adjust the Vision belt by the newest specs it feels loose when cold.
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kevinx
Posted 2009-11-24 4:49 PM (#48378 - in reply to #48354)
Subject: Re: Metric or Standard


Visionary

Posts: 1340
Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators
varyder - 2009-11-24 10:35 AM

I guess I should have put my recommendation in there to use a Six-point socket or wrench and to be careful as this is not an absolute because of minute details in sizes. However, a 5/8 is an exact match to 16mm. I point that out because I search the world over for a 16mm allen for the front axle only to find a 5/8 will fit and are a dime a dozen.


...and a 13mm is an exact match to a 1/2. 10mm to 3/8 though is more then incremental in difference. I don't care if you use a 6 point ; you WILL strip the 3/8 if it is tight. The rest of the chart is reasonably safe though.

My comment about not adjusting the belt assumes that you already maintain your bike, and the belt was properly adjusted going in. I spoke to the fact that you do not have to loosen the adjusters to pull the axle, or reinstall it
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varyder
Posted 2009-11-24 8:52 PM (#48394 - in reply to #48341)
Subject: Re: Metric or Standard


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
point taken...and I concur...
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radioteacher
Posted 2009-11-24 10:04 PM (#48405 - in reply to #48341)
Subject: Re: Metric or Standard


Visionary

Posts: 3006
San Antonio, TX
FYI,

If you require more metric tools.....This time of year Sears has wicked sales on Craftsman tools.

Ride Safe
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Mongo
Posted 2009-11-27 7:54 PM (#48624 - in reply to #48405)
Subject: Re: Metric or Standard


Cruiser

Posts: 153
Newnan, GA
Sears has the Craftsman club with good tool and other goodies at good prices. I got one of My tool boxes from them via the Craftsmans Club.

Lowes has Cobalt tool ( a company owened by Snap-On Tools made with quality and made in the USA.
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Mongo
Posted 2009-11-27 7:54 PM (#48625 - in reply to #48405)
Subject: Re: Metric or Standard


Cruiser

Posts: 153
Newnan, GA
Sears has the Craftsman club with good tool and other goodies at good prices. I got one of My tool boxes from them via the Craftsmans Club.

Lowes has Cobalt tool ( a company owened by Snap-On Tools made with quality and made in the USA.
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