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Pittsburgh, PA | i was always very anti-Oem with oils and filters.. Im still kinda anti the victory oil ONLY because of how it makes my engine sound on a cold dry start and how my shifting gets after about 1000 miles. I do like the idea of the oil change kit with the filter and gasket(s). I have been using the Oem victory oil filter. My dealer always has them in stock and at least this way (after reading the warranty details) if something failed on my bike (extremely doubtful, But murphys law) i cant get a denial NOT because i didnt use a victory oil filter as thats against the law, but because i used a oil filter Not designed for the application.. Thats all.. for me in my humble opinion it feels silly to purchase a motorcycle for $23,000.00 and then nickle and dime over how to maintain it.? Im not saying you cant find a oil filter that is designed for this app, K&N makes a nice filter! its just i cant walk into a shop and just buy one without having to order it and wait.. If i didnt have this extended warranty and if i didnt actually READ it i would probably be using anything i could get my hands on. but after reading that warranty in detail and seeing how they want receipts for All oil changes etc thats all i need is that kinda trouble to save a $1 every 500 miles with a cheaper filter |
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Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators | golfer - 2009-07-14 2:38 PM
By the way, I don't even replace the crush washer....I still have the original on my Vision after several changes. I sold my Kingpin with 24,000 miles and at least 10 oil changes. I sold it to my buddy, he has done some oil changes as well....Guess what??? Original crush washer still in place, and not leaking.
This is an oil change, oil, and filter, not rocket science......!!!!!!!!!! 
I was wondering when you would pop in, but I stand by my comment. I also look forward to your
"I snapped the head off my cheap shit oil drain plug" Thread. When I see it I will take a moment to explain that part of the reason for the washer is to compress when you tighten the plug. This compression takes strain off the thin cap on the plug, and failure to replace it eventually results in the plug head snapping off.
BTW the quoted post is what I was talking about in the first place. You have a nasty habit of taking generalities, and painting them as absolutes |
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New Bohemia, VA | And in this corner weighing at 10w40, the heavy weight champion, vvvVVVic blend.
And in this corner weighing at 15w40, our challenger.....ssssSSSSSSuperTTec.
lllllllLLLLLLLLeeeetttt's ggett reaaaadddddy to RummmmmmBLE!!!!!!!!
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who's volley is it???
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| kevinx - 2009-07-14 6:48 PM
golfer - 2009-07-14 2:38 PM
By the way, I don't even replace the crush washer....I still have the original on my Vision after several changes. I sold my Kingpin with 24,000 miles and at least 10 oil changes. I sold it to my buddy, he has done some oil changes as well....Guess what??? Original crush washer still in place, and not leaking.
This is an oil change, oil, and filter, not rocket science......!!!!!!!!!!
I was wondering when you would pop in, but I stand by my comment. I also look forward to your
"I snapped the head off my cheap shit oil drain plug" Thread. When I see it I will take a moment to explain that part of the reason for the washer is to compress when you tighten the plug. This compression takes strain off the thin cap on the plug, and failure to replace it eventually results in the plug head snapping off.
BTW the quoted post is what I was talking about in the first place. You have a nasty habit of taking generalities, and painting them as absolutes
You should attack the message, not the messenger Kevin....Instead of saying people should check out my posts before taking my advice is just an attack on me. Next time, maybe try telling people you simply don't like Rotella or Super Tech filters...I don't know why you feel the need to have the personal insult added to your opinion...Just sayin'....
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Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators | golfer - 2009-07-15 9:22 AM
You should attack the message, not the messenger Kevin....Instead of saying people should check out my posts before taking my advice is just an attack on me. Next time, maybe try telling people you simply don't like Rotella or Super Tech filters...I don't know why you feel the need to have the personal insult added to your opinion...Just sayin'....
I did just that. I said they should check the source. Had they done so they would find that while some of what you say is very insightfull. You have a habit of interjecting opinion as fact. Nothing more or less.. Not that I have not been guilty of it myself |
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Brighton, TN | +2 and +3 and +4, etc. continue until satisfied. I got money on the guy in the corner with an "X" in his name. He's got to be badder than the guy with a golf club.
I thought I would try the Mobil 1 Vtwin oil and a Napa Wix filter. Been pretty happy. I like seeing where some dude off a site. Takes a bunch of filters and puts them in a controlled environment to test them. How much filtering, how long before the bypass goes, etc.
Like Varyder, if I go buy a 100 fram filters and then sell them for 50 bucks is the K&N filter and wix filter, junk because they cost less. I try to hit in the middle of the road, unless I have explicit proof otherwise. Seems to work well, for me. I have a big 5 gallon jug of Rotella for my truck and tractor. I haven't been able to figure out if I can use it in my Vic. You know, I think Victory should change its Name to "VIC", 1) it sounds cooler, 2) when you think of a guy named VicK, what's the first thing you think of, Mafia, Italian or Russian, maybe even Chicagoan.
Thank you, and no legal disclaimer, Maybe i should LLC "VIC". |
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New Bohemia, VA | That's like the guy who was taking his prize horse to a show and passed through a small town.
Realizing he forgot his blanket he stopped at a local general store and told the man he needed a horse blanket for a prize show horse.
Going to the back he brings one out and lays on the counter and says "that'll be $25.00" The man gasps and says that he doesn't understand, this is a prize horse and needs a better blanket than what $25.00 will buy.
So the man goes back and grabs another blanket from the same pile but a different color, plops it on the counter and says "$50.00". Now this has the man upset because the clerk is not understanding his dilemma and reminds him that this is "prize winning horse" the blanket is going on.
So the clerks knods his head in understanding goes back and from the same pile, grabs a different color blanket, returns to the counter and places it nicely and says, "This one is a $100.00" The man grins real big finally getting what he wanted, pays the clerk and leaves. |
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Scottsdale AZ | Vary - How can I keep track of your posts when you have them hidden? |
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Jasper, MO | VisionTex - 2009-07-14 5:23 PM
ahhh, it was just a question of which filter is better, the long one or short one?  Kevin your comments and everyone's comments don't suck. 
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As I tried to point out before, most motorcycle specific oil filters have a physically longer automotive cousin that is usually lower cost. Same filter, except for the physical length. All filters have a long list of applications, and the MC specific filters have to fit in the shortest space that it is listed for, such as bikes with inline fours with the filter mounted on the front of the case right behind the exhaust headers. Tight fit. In the case of Victory motorcycles, there is plenty of room around the filter, so the longer automotive version fits just fine and you get a filter with a little more filtering media for a lower cost. Thus, I use the Wix/NAPA Gold 1356 instead of the 1358, and pay $4.55 instead of $6.64. The filters are the same specs other than length.
So to answer the gent's question, using a longer filter, regardless of brand, is just fine as long as the operating specs are compatible with what Victory specs their filters at.
Ronnie
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New Bohemia, VA | DesertJim - 2009-07-15 3:38 PM
Vary - How can I keep track of your posts when you have them hidden?
DJ, I'm almost embarassed to think I have as many posts that I do and still have as many (s)miles that I do.
Honestly, I have a life outside of riding and posting on the forum, but for some reason when I do either, it is all or none. I no longer shock people at work when I come in riding in the pouring rain. And in the rare event that I do drive they are wondering what is wrong with the bike or me.
But the forum is my vent to instigate stuff and since most live to far away can't run here and beat me up too easily. That is why I tread softly around VaParadox because he knows where I work which is a mile or three down the road. But I taunt him by riding around his Lexus at one of his places of employment.
but to answer your question, I don't want you to know.... 
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