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Puddle Jumper
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Tampa, FL | I was just told that Victory has discovered that using Amsoil has created clutch problems on some Visions. Has anyone else heard this, or worse yet, experienced it?
I bought a cast of Amsoil gallons, plus 4 quarts to cover me for awhile. I'd hate to have to switch oil before using all of it.
Thanks
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Iron Butt
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Rockford, IL |
I'd like some more info........
Who told you this? Dealer? Dealer technician? Next door nieghbor? The German Shepard down the street?
Under what "conditions" were you told this? Was this person attempting to sway you into purchasing another brand of oil?
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Visionary
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| 100,000 using Amsoil in my '99 and '03 and no problems.
Amsoil recommends using the 10w40 in Victory.
What oil does the dumbass that told you this sell?
Then again they would be correct if some dumbass put the non-motorcycle oil in.
Maybe this is all a scam just to start another oil thread?????? |
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Visionary
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Pittsburgh, PA | I use amsoil 10w40 motorcycle oil in my vision since 600 miles. I right now have just under 5000 miles with No problems with my clutches. Amsoil even lists that their oil is made for wet clutches... |
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Puddle Jumper
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Tampa, FL | I heard it from a friend, and who knows where he heard it. He has no connection with any oil company, it was just a passing statement and I wondered if anyone else had heard it.
That's all, nothing more...
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Cruiser
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Lusby,Md | The "non-motorcycle oil" you speak of don't have the anti-wear additives that the so called motorcycle oil has.I've ran plain automotive oil in all the motorcycles I've owned and have not had any problems what so ever.I'm running Royal Purple 20-50 in my T/C and my Vision with no problems,the T/C has 30,000 and the Vision has 15,000 miles.So no matter what oil you use,the thing is ,JUST KEEP IT CHANGED. |
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Cruiser
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Eyota, MN | I'm running Amsoil 20w50 in my Vision and it works great, not much difference in the viscosity of victorys 20w40 and the amsoil 20w50 plus the amsoil should have a better pour point because it's full synthetic not a blend. |
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Cruiser
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SF Bay Area | No.
Amsoil, or any quality synthetic is fine. Roadkill has over 200k on his Vic, using Amsoil. Nuf' said. |
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Tourer
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, IA | 42,000 in my t.c not problems 7000+ in my vision and my dealer said it work fine |
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Cruiser
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| before posting such comments on on this board it would be nice to have proof of such. |
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Cruiser
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Fargo, ND | I don't believe he was making a comment. He was asking opinions...if anyone else had heard a similar comment. Thanks to all who answered. |
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Tourer
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| MangoMike - 2008-12-08 11:06 AM
I was just told that Victory has discovered that using Amsoil has created clutch problems on some Visions. Has anyone else heard this, or worse yet, experienced it?
I bought a cast of Amsoil gallons, plus 4 quarts to cover me for awhile. I'd hate to have to switch oil before using all of it.
Thanks
Mike
Must be a rumor, just make sure you get the M/C rated oil, as the M/C oil has none of the friction modifiers like you would find in automotive oil. |
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Puddle Jumper
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Summerfield, NC | I know this does not address the actual post, but I did want to mention that after the 500 mile service, I put in Amsoil 20-50. At 3,000 miles I put Victory's oil and even at 30° the bike shifts smoother. However their is no difference in the response of the clutch. |
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Visionary
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Ruskin, Fl | I'm at almost 11,000 right now and I am using full synthetic motorcycle designed for a wet clutch. With the Victory oil my clutch started to get "grabby" at around 2200 miles. I am at about 2700 on my current oil and it is still smooth. Also since I made the change to synthetic a couple of changes ago, shifting is much smoother. That was noticeable almost immediately. The only reason I am not using Amsoil is I have to travel too far out of my way to buy it. |
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Tourer
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Woodland Hills, CA | Please forgive my ignorance, but is there something wrong with the Victory oil (other than perhaps price) that leads so many to change to Amsoil, or some other fully synthetic? Is Amsoil really all that much of an improvement? |
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Iron Butt
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Southeast Iowa | Wizard523
IMO yes! Amsoil or any other full synthetic is a better oil than Victory's and the same or less. Try it and you'll know what everyone is talking about. |
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Cruiser
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MN. | BlueOx USA - 2008-12-08 2:30 PM
100,000 using Amsoil in my '99 and '03 and no problems.
Amsoil recommends using the 10w40 in Victory.
What oil does the dumbass that told you this sell?
Then again they would be correct if some dumbass put the non-motorcycle oil in.
Maybe this is all a scam just to start another oil thread??????
Also have close to 100,000 on my '99 and my '02 TCD. Zero problems. |
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Jacksonville Florida | When you buy the "Victory Oil" you are purchaseing a blended oil made by Mobile Oil otherwise known as Mobile 1.
I used the Repsol Oil before changing to Amsoil. Between the 3 I prefer the Amsoil mainly because of the tinsil strength rating. It is far better than any other oil made for motorcycles. |
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Tourer
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Atlanta Area | 8,000 miles on my Vision, 7,500 of those with Amsoil. I ride hard and I am very hard on the clutch. No problems whatsoever.... |
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Cruiser
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SF Bay Area | Len Rhymes - 2008-12-11 4:43 PM
When you buy the "Victory Oil" you are purchaseing a blended oil made by Mobile Oil otherwise known as Mobile 1.
I used the Repsol Oil before changing to Amsoil. Between the 3 I prefer the Amsoil mainly because of the tinsil strength rating. It is far better than any other oil made for motorcycles.
Actually, the Victory oil is sourced from a Minnesota based company name Lubri-Tech
http://www.lube-tech.com/history.html
A Vic mechanic friend of mine was in MN for a technical training session and when they drove to the location his Polaris trainer pointed across the street to Lubri-Tech and said "those are the folks that make your Victory oil". |
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Cruiser
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Austin, Texas | Interesting. A Victory dealer told me that Victory oil is Mobil One.
I ran Amsoil 20W50 in my Kingpin which made it shift better. I haven't yet changed the Vision over but that's next. |
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Visionary
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Pittsburgh, PA | I know at one time honda's oil was made by Mobil, NOT mobil 1. but even then it was only made to honda specs it wasnt the same oil as mobil 1. There arent that many true oil makers out there, so companies like Victory and other motorcycle companies have to have their oil made by a oil company. They just have it blend/created to their specs. In most cases it is over priced and doesnt meet the same level of performance that a full synth oil would. I use amsoil in my vision. just recently i tried that victory oil change kit. I didnt ride the motorcycle with yet. The only reason i choose the victory oil change kit was it was within a few miles of my house. Unlike amsoil which is a good distance away. I will go back to amsoil next year once i can make a road trip. Until then i will use the victory blend 20w40 oil .. At least this way i can see if i "feel" a difference going from a A1 top of the line oil, to the victory oil. |
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Visionary
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Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators | buddahead - 2008-12-13 3:40 AM
Len Rhymes - 2008-12-11 4:43 PM
When you buy the "Victory Oil" you are purchaseing a blended oil made by Mobile Oil otherwise known as Mobile 1.
I used the Repsol Oil before changing to Amsoil. Between the 3 I prefer the Amsoil mainly because of the tinsil strength rating. It is far better than any other oil made for motorcycles.
Actually, the Victory oil is sourced from a Minnesota based company name Lubri-Tech
http://www.lube-tech.com/history.html
A Vic mechanic friend of mine was in MN for a technical training session and when they drove to the location his Polaris trainer pointed across the street to Lubri-Tech and said "those are the folks that make your Victory oil".
+1 on the Lubri Tech. Vic oil has nothin to do with Mobil.
To answer the question earlier about why people change. It is simple. Lay people like to belive they know more then the mechanicle, and chemicle engineers that designed the bikes, and speced the lubes. That way they can use things that don't save a penny, and feel good about themselves |
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Cruiser
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VA | After I did some reading I decided to try the Shell Rotella T synthetic oil. As I figured out, car oil has friction modifiers in it, which "might" be bad for wet cluth bikes. Shell Rotella T is made for diesel engines and has no modifiers. I will say, I think that my shifting is smoother with the Rotella. But, I can't say it's that noticeable. I tried it because my Victory dealer is over 1 hr away and a $3 toll charge, and Wal-Mart is everywhere (that's why they are the evil empire). I think a lot of people agree, any oil will most likely work fine as long as you change it. At least, that's what I've gathered. I've never heard anyone say that my engine blew up because I used a cheaper oil. I'm sure someone probably can, but I think it's rare, and there are so many factors, I doubt you could conclusively say it was because of the oil. But, I'm not an engineer. |
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Visionary
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Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators | In a hybrid oil\air cooled motor the oils ability to TRANSFER HEAT both from metal, and to the heat sink[cooler] is very important. Sure your motor may not blow up, but is it getting hot spots, is it pulling heat off the back of the exhaust valve? |
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Amsoil Bad for the clutch?
