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Georgia, west of Atlanta | After some searching I found these cams specs for Victory 106 engines. The symbol * denotes degrees. This is for Victory stock cams, S&S 495 and two Andrews cams that I didn't know existed. Can't find any info on Lloyds cams except that the new VM-1 HP cam is required to use high lift valve springs that have maximum valve lift capability of .520 lift. The standard VM-1 cams do not require the use of high lift valve springs.
Camshafts for Victory 106 Freedom Engines
LIFT OPENS CLOSES DURATION
Victory IN .393 1* BTDC 27* ABDC 208*
stock EX .393 33* BBDC 5* BTDC 208*
S&S IN .495 17* BTDC 47* ABDC 244*
495 EX .495 44* BBDC 12* BDTC 236*
Andrews IN .412 17* BTDC 45* ABDC 242*
V-438 EX .406 46* BBDC 11* BTDC 237*
Andrews IN .434 18* BTDC 54* ABDC 252*
V-460 EX .426 48* BBDC 16* BTDC 244*
In comparison 2 valve engines such as Harley that operates in the same rpm range as Victory engines need way more lift and duration to achieve flow numbers comparable to these cams.
Sorry that the website compressed the numbers. They read in order lift, opens, closes and duration.
Edited by XRsteve 2013-05-03 8:10 PM
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | Don't get me wrong on this point, I love my VM-1 cams from Lloyds Performance. They provides excellent performance across the entire rev range with no spring spacing or headwork. But I'm waiting on the day when RedShift, Woods Performance and/or T-Man Performance starts grinding cams for Victory engines. Competition makes prices cheaper and goods better in most cases...........Probably can't hold my breath that long though. 
Edited by XRsteve 2013-05-05 12:14 PM
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | Found these specs on another site: Not 100% sure thay are correct.
VM-1 .412 lift
Vm-1 HP .484 lift
No specs for duration.
Absolutely amazing that a lift as small as .412 makes the power that the VM-1 makes. Lloyd really did his homework on these cams. Harleys don't get that kind of performance with cams as high as .600 lift.
Edited by XRsteve 2013-06-01 7:28 PM
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New Orleans, La, | It's not a mystery why Vic motors respond so well to cams with way less lift than Harleys. First of all lift by itself means nothing and is not as important as alot of other components related to designing a good cam. 4 valve heads have more intake surface area than a 2 valve head and at the same lift will flow more volume. Inversely the 2 vavle head needs more lift to achieve the same flow rate as the 4 valve head needs at a much lower lift. But to really get a good picture of the difference/ advantages of cams you need to consider all the aspects of the cams and the engines they will be used in. Just saying. |
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | V92SC - 2013-06-01 10:40 PM
It's not a mystery why Vic motors respond so well to cams with way less lift than Harleys. First of all lift by itself means nothing and is not as important as alot of other components related to designing a good cam. 4 valve heads have more intake surface area than a 2 valve head and at the same lift will flow more volume. Inversely the 2 vavle head needs more lift to achieve the same flow rate as the 4 valve head needs at a much lower lift. But to really get a good picture of the difference/ advantages of cams you need to consider all the aspects of the cams and the engines they will be used in. Just saying.
You are exactly right.......... |
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | Go to show how good the Victory head castings are, even in stock non ported form........... |
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