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Chattanooga, TN | Precisely why I advocate using full synthetic oil. However the op wants to mix a custom version of his own extra good oil, better than any manufacturer would make! |
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| Why don't you guys spend more time riding instead of worrying about different oils to run in your Vic. I guess I trust what they recommend and don't plan to change as I have had no problem with Victory Oil. Besides, I will not take a chance of voiding my warranty for an oil. |
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Dallas, Texas | Botein - 2013-02-09 12:44 PM
Here's a blending thread worth reading
http://www.victoryforums.com/showthread.php?t=15235
I'll say this about that thread. I have always found it most interesting that when there is a financial interest involved, the recommendation seems to be less than impartial. Amsoil will never recommend mixing their oil with any other oil, anymore than Victory would recommend using HD oil or HD would recommend using Victory oil.
Whatever I decide to do, I won't be using Amsoil in my semi-blend. Shoot, my engine might blow up. |
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Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | CC-Rider - 2013-02-10 2:48 PM Why don't you guys spend more time riding instead of worrying about different oils to run in your Vic. I guess I trust what they recommend and don't plan to change as I have had no problem with Victory Oil. Besides, I will not take a chance of voiding my warranty for an oil. +1+!+++++!!!! |
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Rhode Island | Right from the Amsoil literature
MIXING AMSOIL
AMSOIL Synthetic 10W-40 Motorcycle Oil is compatible with conventional and synthetic motor oils;
however, mixing oils may shorten the oil life expectancy and reduce the performance benefits. AMSOIL does not support extended drain intervals where oils have been mixed.
Aftermarket oil additives are not recommended for use with AMSOIL motorcycle oil.
So use JASO rated oil of your choice |
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| CC-Rider - 2013-02-10 4:48 PM Why don't you guys spend more time riding instead of worrying about different oils to run in your Vic. I guess I trust what they recommend and don't plan to change as I have had no problem with Victory Oil. Besides, I will not take a chance of voiding my warranty for an oil. As long as it's a JASO oil your warranty will be fine. |
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Jasper, MO | kris1956 - 2013-02-11 4:18 AM
?As long as it's a JASO oil your warranty will be fine.
As long as it is JASO-MA oil your warranty will be fine. Just because it has JASO-XXX on the bottle doesn't make it automatically good for your bike. JASO is a ratings organization--NOT a rating. JASO-MA is for wet clutch motorcycle use. JASO-DH1 is not. JASO-DH1 is for medium duty diesels, and so on.
There are motorcycle oils out there that have various JASO ratings on the bottle, but are for dry clutch operation, such as those marketed for Harleys and BMWs. Even though they are "motorcycle oil" they are not rated for your wet clutch.
Make sure it has JASO-MA or JASO-MA2.
Ronnie
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Dallas, Texas | Where can you buy ZDDP additves? Auto parts store? |
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Jasper, MO | Why? Are you insane enough to mess with old LBCs too (like me)?
Yes, you can get it at parts stores or online. Online is easier.
Or, just use a specialty oil designed for the old cars with flat tappet cams and/or splash oiling systems http://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-product/motor-oil/gasoline/z-rod-10w-...
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/cca-1594/overview/
http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2011/06/02/two-new-engine-oils-b...
Ronnie
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| Just so you know Harley has had a wet clutch since the mid 70's and now days there bikes come with synthetic in motor trans and primary. |
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| rdbudd - 2013-02-11 9:50 AM kris1956 - 2013-02-11 4:18 AM ?As long as it's a JASO oil your warranty will be fine. As long as it is JASO-MA oil your warranty will be fine. Just because it has JASO-XXX on the bottle doesn't make it automatically good for your bike. JASO is a ratings organization--NOT a rating. JASO-MA is for wet clutch motorcycle use. JASO-DH1 is not. JASO-DH1 is for medium duty diesels, and so on. There are motorcycle oils out there that have various JASO ratings on the bottle, but are for dry clutch operation, such as those marketed for Harleys and BMWs. Even though they are "motorcycle oil" they are not rated for your wet clutch. Make sure it has JASO-MA or JASO-MA2. Ronnie I stand corrected, it does need the MA rating. I had forgotten about that. |
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Chattanooga, TN | CC-Rider - 2013-02-10 5:48 PM Why don't you guys spend more time riding instead of worrying about different oils to run in your Vic. I guess I trust what they recommend and don't plan to change as I have had no problem with Victory Oil. Besides, I will not take a chance of voiding my warranty for an oil. Why don't you spend more time minding your own business if you aren't concerned with this post except to tell someone else what they should be doing! Just sayin |
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Northeast Ohio | For you 2008 - 2010 owners, running a Full syn can futz up the readings for the gear indicator on your dash. This is what Victory told my mechanic when mine was acting up. |
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Fort Covington, NY | i have a 2010 vision with 36,000 plus on it and i run amsoil full syn with no problems except for the rear tire keeps wearing out! |
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Tavares, Fl | I used pure synthetic in my 01 Yamaha Venture with the wet clutch. Must be why my clutch went out at 86,000 miles, mostly towing a Bunkhouse popup with car tire... |
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| i was one of the unlucky ones that had clucth slippage with the amsoil. onlt under very hard riding. usually 4th, 5th, 6th gears under full throttle is when it would slip. My bike has the VM1 cams and lloydz goodies. I went back to Shell rotella t5 and have had no problems since. I'm sure ther amsoil would be fine if I didnt ride like I do, but that why I ride. |
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Dallas, Texas | I had clutch slippage with my 05 Honda VTX (traded for my Vision), with Amsoil. That and cost is a reason I don't use it in my Vision. There are lots of other Riders/Owners that don't, so I don't know what to say about that. However, I still don't think that Lubetech (i.e. Vic Oil), is the best option either. That's why I am looking to use a 'home brewed' semi-syn. |
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SF Bay Area | (yawn...) |
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Dallas, Texas | Too bad that Prolong isn't around anymore. I could fill it. Then drain it. And it would run forever. Without oil. LOL |
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Dallas, Texas | Not that anyone really cares, but at my next change I decided to use 3 qts
http://www.penngrade1.com/Products/Motor-Oils/SAE-20W50.aspx
and 1.5 qts, 20W/50..
http://www.castrol.com/castrol/sectiongenericarticle.do?categoryId=...
I will update as it wears in, as to what the shifting/finding neutral is like, engine tapping and overall performance.
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Dallas, Texas | iluvink - 2013-03-06 10:36 AM
Not that anyone really cares, but at my next change I decided to use 3 qts
http://www.penngrade1.com/Products/Motor-Oils/SAE-20W50.aspx
and 1.5 qts, 20W/50..
http://www.castrol.com/castrol/sectiongenericarticle.do?categoryId=...
I will update as it wears in, as to what the shifting/finding neutral is like, engine tapping and overall performance.
FYI..750 or so miles later, this mix is working perfectly. Quiet, N is easier to find, and no clutch slippage.
Plus my engine hasn't exploded! |
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| been using straight Amsoil and the Vision runs so smooth you can barely hear it. |
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Prairie City, IA United States | Rotella T6 in the Vision since 5K miles now at 28K. ZERO problems. 27K on the GW ZERO problems. 30K on the wife's CR's (2) ZERO problems. 5,000 mile change intervals with a Wix filter. 1/3 the price of Victory oil JASO-MA rated. What else can I say? |
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