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Akron, Ohio | Follow the weight to PSI lable on the bike. I have found it to be pretty much right on the money. Maybe add a couple to 5 psi when loaded. Also you said you checked the front tire pressure, did you check the rear tire pressure? |
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Puddle Jumper
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Ventura County, CA | handyhiker - 2012-02-15 1:46 PM
Follow the weight to PSI lable on the bike. I have found it to be pretty much right on the money. Maybe add a couple to 5 psi when loaded. Also you said you checked the front tire pressure, did you check the rear tire pressure?
Tire pressure is 38 front 40 in the rear. I set the suspension for exactly what was stated on the sticker. I could try going up a few pounds and see if that works.
The dealer I bought it from contacted me today and told me that they will take replace the fork seals and get me a one year extended warranty on the bike. It is nice to see that they are willing to step up and do what is right even though I bought the bike "as is." As soon as the warranty is in place I will have the gas tank replaced as well. In the mean time, I plan on having them replace the front tire after they service the forks. Should I use the same Dunlop Elite 3 Radial tire or is there a better tracking tire for the front of the vision? |
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Cruiser
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Akron, Ohio | The stock tire is good. Some folks have an issue with cupping and some don't. On the 08's, there is an updated fuel cap. Mine was covered under the warranty. Once you get it sorted out, you will love this bike. |
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New Bohemia, VA | Don't forget to have them check and service the steering bearing. |
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Oregon. | ekirby - 2012-02-15 3:14 PM
you need at least 50 psi if your riding 2 up with luggage.
Not sure what bike your riding, 50psi is an incredible amount in that rear shock. |
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Puddle Jumper
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Ventura County, CA | Thanks for everyones help. it turned out to not be the forks or steering bearing. They were both serviced and the problems still existed. I decided today to replace the front E3 tire with a new Avon Cobra. PROBLEM SOLVED! The bike handles great now. It is like riding an entirely different bike now. I can't wait for the new E3 in the rear to start wearing down a little so I have an excuse to replace it with a Cobra as well. The tire shop told me that the front tire was heavily feathered. They said this could have been from the previous owner riding with the incorrect tire pressure. I will watch this like a hawk to make sure that these do not wear the same. |
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New Bohemia, VA | The results disturbs me, though I'm glad you figured it out. Most of the time I look past the obvious because I assume folks do the obvious, like inspect the tires on their bikes. Going back to your original post though, what the dealer says that it was and the symptoms don't entirely line up. But I'll leave it at that and just say as a reminder, inspect your tires and check your air pressure often, if not at every time you ride. Happy Motoring! |
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Pittsburgh, PA | Brian G - 2012-02-16 8:33 PM
ekirby - 2012-02-15 3:14 PM
you need at least 50 psi if your riding 2 up with luggage.
Not sure what bike your riding, 50psi is an incredible amount in that rear shock.
actually 50 psi isnt alot at all.. according the the Chart in the saddle bag i fill mine to 60psi when riding 2 up with all my gear.. |
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Tourer
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Centennial, CO | @Wrk24Wheel & @Varyder
I'm not surprised at all by this finding! I put my bike through its paces a lot and found that when the tire was worn the bike began to handle much differently. At one point my tire looked like it was still good but the handling was going and quickly. It would track every little thing in the road and the bike was a beast to handle whether slow or fast.
I put new shoes on my baby and she was back to her old self.
Don't let it fool you...when the rubber starts to show wear and no longer round from side to side, it's time for new rubber!
And what VARyder said...check your rubber and pressure EVERY TIME! Two minutes of checking will save a few days in the hospital or a life time in the ground! |
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New Bohemia, VA | I guess I needed to be more clear, I know tires will make the bike run odd, but cupping and other anomolies are usually found during regular inspection by the rider. That's what is disturbing, sorry, I just want to make sure everyone stays safe, and it starts with knowing your ride. Happy Motoring!!! |
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Iron Butt
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| Of all the bikes I've had over the years only my BMW R1100RS reacted as strongly to worn tires as the Vision does. When I get to about 10K miles it just gets hard to turn. Regardless of how much tread is left I just replace them and that light handling is back again. I figure maybe I could get to 15K but to go through an extra 5K miles of missing what I like best about this bike just isn't worth it.
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Iron Butt
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| Arkainzeye - 2012-02-23 9:13 AM
Brian G - 2012-02-16 8:33 PM
ekirby - 2012-02-15 3:14 PM
you need at least 50 psi if your riding 2 up with luggage.
Not sure what bike your riding, 50psi is an incredible amount in that rear shock.
actually 50 psi isnt alot at all.. according the the Chart in the saddle bag i fill mine to 60psi when riding 2 up with all my gear..
Are the charts in your '08 and '11 different? I believe that they changed the rear shock assembly somewhat in the 11's as it's a different part #. I looked into this after discovering that my friend's '09 Vision had a much more compliant (ie. softer) ride than my 11 with the same air pressure.
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Puddle Jumper
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| Two completely different bikes. Test ride another vision and see if it feels the same. |
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Iron Butt
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| Turk - 2012-02-24 5:39 AM
Are the charts in your '08 and '11 different? I believe that they changed the rear shock assembly somewhat in the 11's as it's a different part #. I looked into this after discovering that my friend's '09 Vision had a much more compliant (ie. softer) ride than my 11 with the same air pressure.
The rear shock specs are the same for the '11 as the earlier model. The new part# supersedes the earlier one. The only change per Vic's tech department is improved hardening of the shock shaft due to seal leaks. I noticed that my '11 rode softer than my '10 did and I figured it was the rear shock as well so I called and asked them. If you really want a sweet ride change the front springs and cartridges with those for an '11 8-Ball. Its like day and night.
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Centennial, CO | AH! And agreed! |
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Puddle Jumper
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MA facing NH, MA United States | Agreed. The chart in the owners manual for my 13 VV listed about 50lbs.
Total Cargo (350lbs) > Trunk+rider+passenger+luggage/gear. |
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Question about the Steering and Handling
