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Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators | Boots - 2011-11-20 9:51 PM
kevinx - 2011-11-07 2:36 PM
ONLY verifyable testing I have ever seen showing a legit performance gain was the GM Rapid Fire plugs, and their gain was gone after 3000 miles
I have about 1k miles on them. If you're interested I wouldn't mind putting another 2k on them, then sending them to you so you could install/test for yourself.
You got a deal. I'll spin my bike, change the plugs, and spin it again. See what happens in the real world |
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| Capacitor Discharge Ignition theory has been around since the early 1800's but has never gone any place.
Yes your spark plugs will help in your cold start but over sixty and seventy might just rob you of power. |
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Pittsburgh, PA | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xt2z4vDl1i0&feature=related |
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Albuquerque NM | Here's another good video of a dyno test
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jkfbgT3_OI&feature=related
I was the poor guy who had to get paid to take a 30 minute on country roads to get the computer acclimated. I really love my job! |
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Pittsburgh, PA | im just curious did Anyone Ever mention a Part number for these plugs? |
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New Mexico | kevinx - 2011-11-21 11:18 AM
Boots - 2011-11-20 9:51 PM
kevinx - 2011-11-07 2:36 PM
ONLY verifyable testing I have ever seen showing a legit performance gain was the GM Rapid Fire plugs, and their gain was gone after 3000 miles
I have about 1k miles on them. If you're interested I wouldn't mind putting another 2k on them, then sending them to you so you could install/test for yourself.
You got a deal. I'll spin my bike, change the plugs, and spin it again. See what happens in the real world
IM Sent
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Albuquerque NM | Arkainzeye - 2011-11-21 5:45 PM
im just curious did Anyone Ever mention a Part number for these plugs?
he1it is the part number for VV. |
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| If you go to there web sit NO you can't pull up any part number for any bike. 2stricks against them |
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Albuquerque NM | john frey - 2011-11-22 12:26 PM
If you go to there web sit NO you can't pull up any part number for any bike. 2stricks against them
Thanks for bringing that to my attention I just talked to our IT guy, and he will be adding our bikes in a couple of weeks. You can use this link if you want.
http://pulstar.com/main/PULSTAR-page.asp?P=40
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| Arkainzeye - 2011-11-20 8:25 PM
TRELL - 2011-11-20 8:18 PM
THANK YOU but been there done that E3 are hype along with K&N AIR FILTERS..
So k&n air filters Dont breathe better than stock o.e.m. air filters?
just found this after i posted http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gef5XPoiDCE
Cornett machine shop somerset ky.builds many race engine for top car owners did a test on dyno of engine with K&N and stock air filters guess what,stock filters out preformed.Did the E3 plug deal rather have ngk plugs.The plug (IMO) are hype like many other things.People are free to buy what they wish. |
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Pittsburgh, PA | TRELL - 2011-11-22 6:21 PM
Arkainzeye - 2011-11-20 8:25 PM
TRELL - 2011-11-20 8:18 PM
THANK YOU but been there done that E3 are hype along with K&N AIR FILTERS..
So k&n air filters Dont breathe better than stock o.e.m. air filters?
just found this after i posted http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gef5XPoiDCE
Cornett machine shop somerset ky.builds many race engine for top car owners did a test on dyno of engine with K&N and stock air filters guess what,stock filters out preformed.Did the E3 plug deal rather have ngk plugs.The plug (IMO) are hype like many other things.People are free to buy what they wish.
when you said the STOCK air filter out performed a k&n air filter? i was wondering in what way did it out perform it? cleaner air? More horsepower? i ask cause even the victory performance exhaust kits comes with a higher flowing air filter and then a fuel map to match the increase in air flow. you would think if the stock air filter was "already the best" for performance, why include another one? im not saying k&n is the best. i just find it very hard to believe that a stock air filter that comes on your bike/car is already the VERY BEST in performance. |
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Dallas, Texas | So...Pulstar or E3....does it depend on what oil and oil filter you use? |
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New Mexico | Well, I had just over 1k miles on the Pulstar and decided to try the NGKs. I tried to eliminate as many variables as I could for testing.
Installed them with half a tank of gas to get half a tank on Pulstar, half on NGK.
When I filled up I used the same gas station.
Drove basically the same route(s), mostly back and forth to work.
Weather temp and wind pretty consistent.
Results after 1 1/2 tanks of gas?
Immediate drop in MPG from 38 to 34
Harder cold starts (even after IAC reset done a couple of weeks ago)
Seems to have a little less 'snap', but is hard to tell.
Only two issues I have with Pulstar.
First, price is high.
And second, I worry about the construction. Center electrode is tiny, and I worry about them holding up to the rigors/temps of a motorcycle over the long term them due to the capacitance construction.
Will probably put Pulstar back in, run them until late summer, then reinstall the NGK to check again. Want to see how they perform in the warm weather. So maybe another update in August time-frame.
Edited by Boots 2012-01-20 10:05 AM
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New Bohemia, VA | I was laughing about these this morning. But hey, if you have the results you just claimed you have with them there would be NO WAY I would go back to a cheaper plug. But you have your reasons. I just slapped down less than $3 on two of the Champion cross-referernce plugs and after going 60,000 miles on the old plugs I see an improvement... |
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| Pulstar or Denso Iridium tip or E3's
Its all smoke an mirrors.
Yes you might gain one horse no more for sure. Mileage might increase by a tenth of a mile.
The best you will see is maybe quicker cold starts by ten seconds.
You'll spend more money and you will gain peace of mind knowing you have spent more money.
Run all the dyno's you want but each day is a new day and runs change from day to day or morning to afternoon.
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| which E3's did you guys got....i just bought the E3.38 and it seems to be to small (on the thread)...any idea...obviously i got the wrong one....
cheers!
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| nevermind...i have the right one now E3.36 
I will give it a test ride in the morning and provide some feedback...
cheers! |
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New Mexico | lova - 2012-01-20 9:17 PM
I will give it a test ride in the morning and provide some feedback...
Make sure you run your findings past John first...
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Lansing, MI | gr8punkin - 2011-09-28 3:55 PM
Hello all, I'm brand new to this forum so excuse me if I miss appropriate protocol. But I would like to add my two cents on this one.
First I am anxiously awaiting my 08 vision, and will be testing my new bike on the dyno with new NGK plugs and then the Pulstar plugs. I'll be doing this because I am a product designer for the company that builds them, (I actually built the tooling for the assembly line and am currently working on the fourth generation of the plugs). So as soon as I have some data I will happily post it for all to see, and I will not be pushing them here, my bikes are just fun for me. But I'll gladly answer any questions you might have.
BTW I know that this thread is almost two years old.
Okay, cool. Where can we find the info? |
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Albuquerque NM | I still haven't gotten to the dyno, we got tied up with some pretty time consuming projects around here so we haven't gone and done that testing yet. I promise as soon as I have some data I'll let you guys know. |
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| Would someone please state what pulstar plug you are using in your vision. I was looking at trying them. Because I want to! The website doesn't show what plug for a victory vision to use. So for the guys that have put them in, please share what plug you used. Thanks |
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Pittsburgh, PA | i saw now NGK has Iridiums for the vision! |
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Brighton, TN | I have seen a couple of different tests for AIR FILTERS. Flow bench testing and then introducing dirt media and see which ones still flowed the most after X amount of media added and the quality of filtration.
I too was surprised, at the outcome. The AC-Delco outperformed by a long shot all of the other aftermarket filters tested, K&N, Fram, are just some of the ones tested. I was astonished to say the least, since it was done by an independent guy looking for the best filter for his Truck, kinda believe him. I wasn't there just saw the pics and the writeup. I can assure you it wasn't done by GM (not really). |
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Albuquerque NM | he1it is the part number for our bikes.
https://admin.pulstar.com/applicationguide.cfm
scroll down to the bottom of the page.
I'm sorry all I still haven't gotten my bike on the rollers it is coming just very slow getting it together. We have a lot of irons in the fire around here. |
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| I put in the pulstar HE1IT and WOW I kid you not I went from 42 mpg to average now 47.8 to 50 mpg. I love it. Also I did not set the gap, I left it at the factory gap. Last time I gapped set iridium plugs it messed the point up at the tip and the bike didn't run as well. I also tried the E3.36 and I didn't think they were that great. Cheap price though. To me, all they are is a splitfire with a new name. Next plug I want to try out is the BRISK premium plugs but can't seem to find one for the vision yet. E-mailed the co. waiting to hear back from them. |
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