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VaParadox
Posted 2010-05-04 5:39 PM (#59111 - in reply to #58169)
Subject: Re: Flame out on I-95


Iron Butt

Posts: 1158
Richmond, Virginia
Sounds like the fuel pump to me. Have you checked fuel pressure? I bet thats the deal Doubtful its fuel. But what do I know,,,
I just ride my bike on pretty days, not snow ha ha ha ha good luck and hope its a simple fix bud.
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victoryvisiontour
Posted 2010-05-04 6:54 PM (#59115 - in reply to #58169)
Subject: RE: Flame out on I-95


Iron Butt

Posts: 763
Anderson, IN (48mi NE of downtown Indianapolis)
The fuel pump can be easily checked. There is a Schrader valve behind the right cheese wedge. Hold a gauge on it and crank the motor. The specification is 49 psi.

If the pressure if good, you still need to check flow. The fuel lines have push-to-connect fittings. There is one located next the Schrader valve mentioned above. Push the blue buttons and pull it off. The fitting will hang from fuel line. Put the fitting/fuel line in a glass jar and turn on the key. Not sure of the spec, but it should gush out. Watch your eyes because it might spray out of the jar.
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VisionTex
Posted 2010-05-05 5:50 PM (#59160 - in reply to #59115)
Subject: RE: Flame out on I-95


Visionary

Posts: 1484
LaPorte,Tx.
Chris, your kill'n me man! What's up!
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varyder
Posted 2010-05-05 6:00 PM (#59162 - in reply to #58169)
Subject: Re: Flame out on I-95


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
me too!
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ammo
Posted 2010-05-05 8:10 PM (#59176 - in reply to #59162)
Subject: Re: Flame out on I-95


Cruiser

Posts: 65
varyder - 2010-05-05 7:00 PM

me too!


I've ran out of popcorn already
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Teach
Posted 2010-05-07 7:58 PM (#59342 - in reply to #58169)
Subject: Re: Flame out on I-95


Visionary

Posts: 1436
Ok you gotta have some idea as to the issue by now?????
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varyder
Posted 2010-05-10 4:40 AM (#59534 - in reply to #58169)
Subject: Re: Flame out on I-95


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
the resolution is there, I just don't have it on the road. I don't like to be presumptious and say this is "the" problem only to find out there may be something else to pop up. I learned in Army maintenance never to say what is broke or when it will be fixed until it was rolling out of the motorpool. But I will say the fuel pump should be in today and bar any unseen circumstances I should be rolling again in a few days.
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Teach
Posted 2010-05-10 8:53 PM (#59575 - in reply to #58169)
Subject: Re: Flame out on I-95


Visionary

Posts: 1436
Sounds like a reasonable source of your grief as others have had FP issues. Hope this is the last of your troubles and down time.
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varyder
Posted 2010-05-11 5:29 PM (#59635 - in reply to #58169)
Subject: Re: Flame out on I-95


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
home, running fine. Fuel pump.
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donetracey
Posted 2010-05-11 5:49 PM (#59638 - in reply to #58169)
Subject: Re: Flame out on I-95


Visionary

Posts: 2118
Pitt Meadows, BC Canada
Well, as they say in (NOT) my part of the country: YEE HAW !!!!
Chris - what adventures await???
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Digby
Posted 2010-05-11 6:07 PM (#59643 - in reply to #58169)
Subject: Re: Flame out on I-95


Cruiser

Posts: 141
A solution to a difficult problem is a wonderful thing. It is is very cool that your back on the road. Happy riding!
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varyder
Posted 2010-05-11 6:39 PM (#59646 - in reply to #58169)
Subject: Re: Flame out on I-95


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
Yes, it is. So far I just rode it home, and I have to go to work in the morning. It's good to be back on, but it is business as what I consider, usual. I'm still waiting to see if I have to go to Barstow in July, but I know I've got a few more Atlanta and beyond trips to make this year. Thanks for the well wishes.
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victoryvisiontour
Posted 2010-05-11 9:41 PM (#59665 - in reply to #58169)
Subject: RE: Flame out on I-95


Iron Butt

Posts: 763
Anderson, IN (48mi NE of downtown Indianapolis)
Looks like VaParadox nailed it.

It's good to know the Vision will still limp home when the fuel pump goes bad.
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varyder
Posted 2010-05-11 10:11 PM (#59666 - in reply to #58169)
Subject: Re: Flame out on I-95


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
let's just say VaP has an inside scoop...
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VisionTex
Posted 2010-05-12 7:52 AM (#59685 - in reply to #59666)
Subject: Re: Flame out on I-95


Visionary

Posts: 1484
LaPorte,Tx.
varyder, did the fuel pump give you any indications there was an issue prior to the failure? I had mine changed in Feb. due to a noise change that I heard when turning the key on. Normally there is a soft sounding hummmm, mine sounded like a parrot getting choked. Just wondering if you heard a change.
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varyder
Posted 2010-05-12 8:05 AM (#59689 - in reply to #58169)
Subject: Re: Flame out on I-95


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
no, if you read the initial post that is when I noticed something was amiss. I asked the tech if it quit sucking he said no, it just wasn't putting out.
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pollolittle
Posted 2010-05-12 8:19 AM (#59690 - in reply to #58169)
Subject: Re: Flame out on I-95


Visionary

Posts: 2027
Brighton, TN
that's the best way you can say that. The teenager inside of me wants to come out and play with that last statement. Sounds like an old girlfriend I once knew.
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varyder
Posted 2010-05-12 8:59 AM (#59693 - in reply to #58169)
Subject: Re: Flame out on I-95


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
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Gandalf
Posted 2010-05-13 9:16 PM (#59815 - in reply to #58169)
Subject: RE: Flame out on I-95


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 38
NW Jersey
Varyder,
Glad to hear that the "demon" was exorcized from your ride. For future reference (so I can start saving up now) How much is a fuel pump these day$? and is it something that can be done at home? Just curious and glad it wasn't an internal engine problem but an R&R electro-mechanical part.

You mentioned Barstow, a business or vacation destination? I know of a Marine supply depot being there AND THE "TRAIN STATION" (caboose restaurant?) but not much more exciting until the Windmills at Tehacipi Pass. That would be a great trip thru the Southwest.

Take care, back in the saddle has to feel good!

Gandalf
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varyder
Posted 2010-05-14 8:17 AM (#59840 - in reply to #59815)
Subject: Re: Flame out on I-95


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
The fuel pump according to the repair sheet was $550 total, or there abouts. Everything look good even the filter which is just a mesh boot over the pickup.

Barstow is a business destination, and as interestingly enough that I've been out there many times, I know very little about the place. I really spend my time over on Fort Irwin and can tell you more about the Mojave than I wanted to know.

If I do get to ride and stay more than a week, Tehacipi is a definite destination as my Mom and Dad lived there a few years right after they were married. Back in them days Route 50 was the cross country route from Virginia and that is the way they went. That is another road I want to travel and meet the Loneliest Highway.

Edited by varyder 2010-05-14 8:19 AM
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VisionTex
Posted 2010-05-14 8:58 AM (#59847 - in reply to #59840)
Subject: Re: Flame out on I-95


Visionary

Posts: 1484
LaPorte,Tx.
When I had the fuel pump replaced in Feb. I checked two dealers besides the one that did the repair. Lowest price I found for the pump assembly was $327 just for the assembly no labor. I was told by the dealer that Victory gives them 1.5 hours to replace the pump. It took more like 4 hours, the mechanic was pissed, I guess he only gets paid what the book says. The pump assembly part number for the 08 and 09 Visions is 250786, but it has been superceded for 2010 with a new part number 2521030, besure to get the new part number pump if you replace it. I'm thinking maybe there is an improvement in the pump, but don't know that. Changing the pump out according to the service manual is not a bad job, it just takes time to remove faring parts. Getting the pump out and the new one into the tank, looks very easy after all the faring parts are removed. Mine was replaced under the extended warranty.
I rode US 50 back in the '80s, besure to keep and eye on the gas tank and don't pass up a chance to stop and top off. I remember stopping at a two pump gas station, which happened to be on the Nevada/Utah border. Nice woman running had some trailers on the Nevada side that were motel/casino and the gas pumps/ station on the Utah side of the line. There was nothing around..."Middle of No Where"! She was friendly.

Edited by VisionTex 2010-05-14 9:05 AM
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pollolittle
Posted 2010-05-17 9:11 AM (#59999 - in reply to #58169)
Subject: Re: Flame out on I-95


Visionary

Posts: 2027
Brighton, TN
From what I understand the newer pumps come with an improved float. The previous float was a arm, with a float on the end. The new design is one that most others use and that is the vertical rod with a float. That's what I understand currently.
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varyder
Posted 2010-05-17 9:19 AM (#60000 - in reply to #58169)
Subject: Re: Flame out on I-95


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
I'm not sure if it is an improvement, the gage drops at the same rate as it did before. I was able to keep the spoil and might make a clock or something like that out of it and it does have a good army thing. I'm glad you have some understanding of something, I often wonder working for the IRS if there is anyone who understands anything!

V.T. I'm not sure why the tech would take so long with the exception of inexperience as it only requires taking off the left panel to expose the top of the fuel tank. -

Bing! It just occured to me Po, they put the old style pump back in because my tech said the hard part was getting that army thing to cooperate going in....hmmmm... at least that is what I understand... understand?
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nightvision
Posted 2010-05-17 9:51 PM (#60064 - in reply to #58169)
Subject: Re: Flame out on I-95


Cruiser

Posts: 156
dinwiddie, va
no differences in pumps. same arms and floats, and everything .Victory changes part #'s when they have a change in manufacturers for parts. it's quite annoying actually.
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VaParadox
Posted 2010-05-20 8:38 PM (#60280 - in reply to #58169)
Subject: Re: Flame out on I-95


Iron Butt

Posts: 1158
Richmond, Virginia
<---- not only pretty but smart. No assistance needed. just cause i dont jump in on here with engine specs dont mean i dont know jack about the bike. Case in point, do you ever remember me posting on here about a problem with my bike???? NEGATIVE

But its good that the snowman is back on the road !!
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