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Central Illinois | I intend to give up nothing. I presently ride an HD Road Glide, yep one of those things recently criticized in this thread. It is indeed not being produced for the 2014 model year, which should make my present ride valuable in some way because it will be a discontinued model. That is not rumor, it is fact. I also intend to trade my 2011 RGU for a Victory Vision, which may or may not survive this year's changes to the models that Victory offers for 2014. Why in the heck would I do that? The answer is easy. I could not care less which models continue into the next year and which do not. My focus is on getting a model that will perform well for me for several years after I acquire it. That is where I think that Victory has an advantage. If they fail me in that respect you can color me gone. I have absolutely no brand loyalty because I consider brand loyalty to be a fool's game.
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Visionary
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New Bohemia, VA | I like your take OM, it makes life more exciting. But I do believe brand loyalty to be a good thing sometimes. If we expect Victory to drop the Vision, maybe it will be the first new model of Indian. That would go together well, I would own an Indian Vision, in fact, mine already has the tassels and I hope by AVR I'll have them on the floorboards.
Edited by varyder 2013-05-12 9:43 PM
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Akron Ohio area | The Vision remains the flagship of Victory and is still the best touring vehicle they produce.
That's Victory talking.
Ford has the mustang, Chevy has the Vet.
While talking to the company rep at my dealer's truck event this last weekend, he assured me that the Vision will continue to be Victory's flagship for many years to come.
Honestly, the Vision is the only motorcycle I can positively identify while going down the road. |
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Iron Butt
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New York State | Ovaryder - 2013-05-12 10:37 PM
I like your take OM, it makes life more exciting. But I do believe brand loyalty to be a good thing sometimes.? If we expect Victory to drop the Vision, maybe it will be the first new model of Indian.? That would go together well, I would own an Indian Vision, in fact, mine already has the tassels and I hope by AVR I'll have them on the floorboards.
From everything Polaris has said since buying Indian I would say don't hold your breath waiting for a Warchief or Dreamcatcher Vision. They said there would be no crossing of DNA.
I think the discontinuence of the Kingpin is an example of that thinking |
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Visionary
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | Hell, I'd just like to see the Chief be a full touring Rig. Not a "bagger" as they call the day trip bike these days.............But as ya'll know I have 2 Visions. There really isn't room for another full size bike in my stable and I doubt the new Chief will be as capable as the Vision as a touring platform, but time will tell.
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New Bohemia, VA | If they though the ergos like the KM Indians, it will be a great ride. Of course, it would not have the sterile ride the Vision has, but riding an Indian is about riding the elements... |
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Cruiser
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| The Road Glide is not being made for 1 year, it will return in 2015 line up. I got rid of my Vision for a Road Glide and i LOVE it. I got sick and tired of the terrible Victory service. Dealers in my area SUCK. We do still have one Victory. My wife works for HD and rides a Kingpin and loves it. |
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | It will be very interesting to see what the replacement engine will be for the Harley TC engine. If it just has water cooled heads it will make a marked improvement. Don't underestimate the Power and engineering of Milwaukee. They can do alot of things. They are usually hamstrung by customer prefences but water cooling may be forced on them by EPA retrictions because of their 2 valve deep combustion chamber design and emision requirements............Victory could be next, but it makes you wonder, why did Polaris go to such great lengths to develope the 111" Indian powerstroke engine as aircooled ?? There may be life left in the aircooled big twins yet, maybe direct cylinder injection ?? Time will tell.............
Edited by XRsteve 2013-05-19 10:57 AM
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Pittsburgh, PA | I bought my vision because I loved the streamlined designs and my wife did not really like the V92c that I put together for 2 up riding. Se never felt comfortable on it. I have not heard her say a word about not feeling comfortable on the vision. We have not been able to use it as I intended for long cruises due to injuries and 2 teenage sons that keep our schedule tied up. I use daily and some ask why I use such a big bike for my daily trip to work and back. I tell them that it is the smoothest, best handling bike that I have ever been on. I do complain about the noisy trunk, the inability to get victory t-shirts at each tourist destination, and the fact that there is not a lot of aftermarket stuff to buy for these bikes but I will not get rid of it for anything. I fell into a great deal on the hammer and figured that I would use it for work and single rides but it usually sits there while I jump on the vision. I joked with the wife that I'm trading the hammer in on the new Indian and while she was telling me a the reasons why I should not do that, the idea came to me that I should be looking for one of street visions for me to use for single riding!! I have never had the trunk and armrests off of mine but this is my new plan. I'm only 42 so I'll just wait until someone else wants to drop on at a good price and then I'll have the best of both worlds. I do agree that the dealer network needs a ton of upgrading every time one you bring it up but then I remember that I have yet to need any service other than regular maintenance. I have never really cared to follow the in crowd but I did always want to reward myself for the amount of hours I spend at work. So for me it was not just a decision to buy two wheel transportation but to buy myself what I thought was the best bike for me. I believe I have the best looking, smoothest riding, great handling, and most dependable bike on the road and for me, that is what it is all about. |
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Scottsdale | Victory of Mesa has sold 5 Visions in the past month. Me thinks their pretty popular in AZ |
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| 5 Vision's in Mesa in a month? You think that is a popular? A city the size of Mesa you would like to think they move alot more than that. My wife is the controller for a top 20 HD dealer in the U.S. in Mi. and they move well over a 100 bikes a month. Shoot they usually have at the least 200 bikes in stock and it is not unusual to have 350 in stock. |
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | That's apples and oranges. Harley makes more than 500 engines a day at the engine plant in Milwukee. I saw that with my own eyes last August. I believe Harley is back making over 240,000 bikes a year. Harley is projecting sales wordwide for 2013 of between 259,000 and 265,000 units. Victory has been touted as the 2nd largest motorcycle manufacturer in the US but even though Polaris dosen't release numbers if it's only 15,000 that would be a pretty big number.........
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Puddle Jumper
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Scottsdale | That's just 5 Visions. They sell all the other bikes as well and compare them to a HD dealership. An HD dealership is about 10 times larger. The point of this thread was that Visions are unpopular. Not true |
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New Bohemia, VA | In the large scheme of things, no, the Vision is not very popular. It is very well loved of those that know her though. |
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | varyder - 2013-05-22 8:55 AM
In the large scheme of things, no, the Vision is not very popular. It is very well loved of those that know her though.
Yes Sir, that is very true, that's why I sold my RoadGlide and bought a second Vision........  |
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Cruiser
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Hinton, Iowa | Personally, I don't give a RATS ASS if it's popular or not. I kind of liked it when I got my 08 and people crowded around at a gas stop or passed me on the highway to give me a thumbs up. That's why I opted for a 13 when the time came to trade. I love this motorcycle!!! Ride Safe, Mike
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Cruiser
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Davenport, IA | Visions not popular? I just took a job transfer and relocated to Davenport, IA. Left for work in my cage traveling on I-80, looked in rear view mirror and saw blue Vision hauling butt, passing me while I gave him thumbs up. I travel a lot for my job and frequently see Visions on the road, usually passing me effortlessly. I notice Vision riders always wearing a big smile because the bike is so fun to ride. I can relate! |
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Tourer
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| I love my Vision and would not trade it for anything currently out there..But I agree with some you don't see many on the road in Michigan around here..Going on 3rd riding season with mine and except for the AVR in Iowa and the local" Lil Sturgis" rally near Coldwater, and an occasional stop at the dealer for Demo Days, I have only seen 6 on the road which includes mine....
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Iron Butt
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Peru, IN | varyder - 2013-05-22 9:55 AM
It is very well loved of those that know her though.
Yes, it is. Probably the first bike I've owned (out of probably 30) that I'm truely passionate about. The ride gets better every time I ride it. |
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Visionary
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Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | My SPCSHP is VERY popular with me! But I am still hurting from a fall on Monday.
Going up a hill in traffic Monday, had to stop suddenly and unexpectedly when a car cut in - lost balance and down she went.
So I'm trying to slow/stop the descent, and Co-Pilot is on top of me as well - hell of a losing battle. Landed on my elbow and fought so hard, my right shoulder is torn up inside.
A good Samaritan who was stopped in the opposite lane - jumped out of his car and ran over to help - arriving just as I got to my feet. We stood the bike back up and put it on the side stand. I thanked him heartily, we got back on and drove off - all in the duration of one red-light cycle.
I finished the ride home maybe 25 minutes later - the most PAINFUL ride in my life. My elbow had to be iced down - was the size of a baseball - and my whole body was in pain. BUT - no damage to the bike, NO loss of blood, and I don't think any broken bones - just muscle damage to my 70 year old body !!!
Don't wanna do that again ...
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| Takes a while to heal at our age Don. Good luck and I am glad that you are O. K. |
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Central Maryland | I'm sorry to hear of your misfortune with the bike; and I hope the wifey is ok too! Get that shoulder checked out by a Doc if you think you tore something in it.
Did the tip overs on the Vision stop the bike from going completely over? |
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| Wow, not what I expected a 70 year old arms to look like. Impressive!!! I have some nice guns now (20" and always dreaded what would happen when I got older. Now I know, it's all up to me on what I wanna look like! Thanks for the inspiration and Get Well Soon, riding season has just started, lol |
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Tourer
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| Being 73 I know the pain and slow healing process...Been down a couple of times on my Vision and thank the good Lord no damage to me or the bike..Fell last year in driveway after tripping over a loose tarp and pulled some ligaments around knee which are still healing...Good Luck and glad to hear your okay. |
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| Hay Guy's I'v dropped mine so many time I don't want to count (had a left shoulder replacement 2 years ago [excuse]) I'm begining to get so much confidents in it I'm thinging of demonstrating it. I just let it go and step away when I get caught in a bid. It stays up anuff you just back into it and lift up. Latest one was in 1/2" of mud at Chick Ridge, KY and when a guy was going to help me pick it up, I just said " no problem when you have tip over protection" I wished I could hide my name but I can truely tell you "tip over protection works", on concrete, on asphalt, in the middle of an intersection, a u'e on a four lane with a trailor on it, pulling into a gas station, in grass, in mud, it work's. Not one visable scratch. As well as the side stand, flicking its's self up. An engineering marvel. |
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vision not very popular?
