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lstayner
Posted 2013-04-14 8:59 AM (#134768 - in reply to #134749)
Subject: Re: Helmet or no helmet?


Tourer

Posts: 416
Prairie City, IA United States
Hey Tom,

I went to Walmart and bought some really el cheapo tennis balls and cut them in half to use for pylons. They are compact and only take a couple of minutes to set out. The weave is the 1st exercise and when you get good at that the rest of his exercises are easier.

Be careful cutting the tennis balls in 1/2 I recommend a vice and a hacksaw. Leave the utility knife in the drawer.
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willtill
Posted 2013-04-14 9:26 AM (#134771 - in reply to #134619)
Subject: Re: Helmet or no helmet?


Visionary

Posts: 1365
Central Maryland
Empty beer cans instead
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baadawg
Posted 2013-04-14 11:17 AM (#134782 - in reply to #134619)
Subject: Re: Helmet or no helmet?


Tourer

Posts: 499
Chattanooga, TN
I know of a guy who didn't have a lid on, stopped at a stop sign after riding an extended distance and didn't get his foot down in time. Bike went over. Bumped his head on the asphalt and went into a coma. He later died before coming out of it. I'd hate to die from something as simple as that. Even a half lid could have prevented it. I'll put a lid on mine!
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Prarie Dog
Posted 2013-04-14 11:37 AM (#134785 - in reply to #134619)
Subject: Re: Helmet or no helmet?


Cruiser

Posts: 83
Bolivar Missouri
I believe to wear or not should be left up to the individual after the age of 21 .
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Street Eagle
Posted 2013-04-14 11:41 AM (#134786 - in reply to #134619)
Subject: Re: Helmet or no helmet?


Iron Butt

Posts: 691
Manchester, CT
Hey Istayner and willtel,

Thanks for your ideas. I was actually thinking about those cheap small marker cones that they use for kids soccer. They're not really cones more like a raised circle with an elevated dimple. The tennis ball I am sure is a less expensive alternative. I really appreciate the suggestion to start with the weave first. I will do this when I head out for a cruise this afternoon.

willtil...days of old I would have used beer cans but like many out there I am recoverying from an awful disease. That's one of the key reasons I bought the Vision. To enjoy life again with my wife and just cruise the country, free like an eagle! I'm not the philosophical type but life has never been better, especially now with our black and chrome eagle sitting in the garage! Thus the biker moniker...Street Eagle and my wife Betty, Road Eagle

Hey Istanyer...always wondered where your nickname came from??? I think I will start on a new post on this
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Monkeyman
Posted 2013-04-14 11:50 AM (#134790 - in reply to #134786)
Subject: Re: Helmet or no helmet?


Iron Butt

Posts: 1066
Peru, IN
Street Eagle - 2013-04-14 12:41 PM

Hey Istanyer...always wondered where your nickname came from??? I think I will start on a new post on this


It's "L" Stayner so I'm guessing it's his name. What do I win? Do I get extra credit if I can guess his first name? :D
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Monkeyman
Posted 2013-04-14 11:52 AM (#134791 - in reply to #134771)
Subject: Re: Helmet or no helmet?


Iron Butt

Posts: 1066
Peru, IN
willtill - 2013-04-14 10:26 AM

Empty beer cans instead


Not that empty beer cans wouldn't work but it's probably easier to explain tennis balls to a cop if he stops you. "Honestly, officer. I wasn't drinking. I'm practicing my weaving. Wait. What I mean is...."
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willtill
Posted 2013-04-14 12:29 PM (#134795 - in reply to #134791)
Subject: Re: Helmet or no helmet?


Visionary

Posts: 1365
Central Maryland
Monkeyman - 2013-04-14 12:52 PM

willtill - 2013-04-14 10:26 AM

Empty beer cans instead


Not that empty beer cans wouldn't work but it's probably easier to explain tennis balls to a cop if he stops you. "Honestly, officer. I wasn't drinking. I'm practicing my weaving. Wait. What I mean is...."


Lol! Well... drink them the night before....
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lstayner
Posted 2013-04-14 6:37 PM (#134822 - in reply to #134786)
Subject: Re: Helmet or no helmet?


Tourer

Posts: 416
Prairie City, IA United States
Street Eagle - 2013-04-14 11:41 AM


Hey Istanyer...always wondered where your nickname came from??? I think I will start on a new post on this


It is pretty hard to come up with L is Larry and the rest is the last name. Not real imaginative like my buddy Kidagain that rides a GW.
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Monkeyman
Posted 2013-04-14 6:45 PM (#134825 - in reply to #134619)
Subject: Re: Helmet or no helmet?


Iron Butt

Posts: 1066
Peru, IN
How am I supposed to get my extra credit if you tell him your first name?
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Street Eagle
Posted 2013-04-14 7:52 PM (#134835 - in reply to #134619)
Subject: Re: Helmet or no helmet?


Iron Butt

Posts: 691
Manchester, CT
Great to meet you Larry and again thanks for your recommendations as well as to the rest of the gang!
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buddahead
Posted 2013-04-18 11:00 AM (#135117 - in reply to #134619)
Subject: RE: Helmet or no helmet?


Cruiser

Posts: 238
SF Bay Area
Personal choice, whatever is right for you.

Be grateful if you have a choice!
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iluvink
Posted 2013-04-19 10:03 AM (#135169 - in reply to #134619)
Subject: Re: Helmet or no helmet?


Tourer

Posts: 411
Dallas, Texas
I think that I have now decided to go ATGATT, 24/7. That way if I trip and fall, or fall down some stairs, I might be ok. Even if I get hit by a bus, I would have a better chance of survival. So, if you see a guy riding a VV, driving in his 'cage', or even just walking down the street, in ATGATT, you'll know. At least I'll be safer.
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varyder
Posted 2013-04-19 12:46 PM (#135173 - in reply to #134619)
Subject: Re: Helmet or no helmet?


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
as long as it has a D.O.T. sticker on it, it will protect you. If you need a sticker I know where you can get them...
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baadawg
Posted 2013-04-19 4:36 PM (#135182 - in reply to #134619)
Subject: Re: Helmet or no helmet?


Tourer

Posts: 499
Chattanooga, TN
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Oldman47
Posted 2013-04-19 6:32 PM (#135184 - in reply to #134619)
Subject: Re: Helmet or no helmet?


Tourer

Posts: 573
Central Illinois
If you traveled for a living with a portable PC to record your work, that might work out at stops between customers.
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Strike
Posted 2013-04-22 9:51 AM (#137318 - in reply to #134619)
Subject: Re: Helmet or no helmet?


Cruiser

Posts: 62
San Diego, CA
ATGATT
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slatevalley
Posted 2013-05-01 10:39 AM (#138022 - in reply to #134619)
Subject: RE: Helmet or no helmet?


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 11
EMT call riders who don't where helmets Donner's.
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opas ride
Posted 2013-05-01 10:55 AM (#138023 - in reply to #134619)
Subject: Re: Helmet or no helmet?


Tourer

Posts: 500
Interesting to note that a recent national poll on helmets laws favor a National Mandatory Helmet law across the US...In my personal opinion I hope it passes someday...Riding without a helmet makes no sense and I do not buy the "right to choose" crap...because that is what it is "crap"...JMHO of which I am expressing...Why is it that most Victory, BMW, Honda, etc. riders wear helmets, and 90% of HD riders go without??? Must be a HOG thing or status symbol......Not cool to me...Don't flame me cause I do not buy others rationale on this issue...Sorry

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okie vision
Posted 2013-05-01 12:06 PM (#138025 - in reply to #138023)
Subject: Re: Helmet or no helmet?


Iron Butt

Posts: 752
Broken Arrow, OK
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Rick 106
Posted 2013-05-01 12:29 PM (#138027 - in reply to #134619)
Subject: Re: Helmet or no helmet?


Cruiser

Posts: 55
I get a kick out of riders with no helmets. Used to live in Florida where they are not required. Funny to watch them during love bug season. Or the same people wearing flip flops when riding. Really smart. But I guess you look cool.
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MaddMAx2u
Posted 2013-05-01 12:36 PM (#138028 - in reply to #134628)
Subject: Re: Helmet or no helmet?


Iron Butt

Posts: 880
Orlando, FL
donetracey - 2013-04-12 12:53 AM

OK - I have gone thru this several times. I started riding with no laws, then lived thru the first laws.

True Story: When 'helmet laws' were introduced in British Columbia - I did a STUDY. I discovered that more people died falling out of bed, then died from head injuries in Motorcycle Accidents. For real !!!

So I proposed that the Government legislate a mandatory HELMET LAW that would demand that people put on a helmet before getting out of bed in the morning. Made sense to me !!!

Well - you know how far that would go ....

I lived and rode in Orlando, Florida for 5 years from 1997 to 2002. The Florida Helmet Law was repealed in 2000 or so - so I drove a couple of years down there without a helmet. The only good thing I can say about a helmet is that it keeps your head warm in cold weather.

I would rather die from a head injury, than be a cripple with a broken back whose life was saved by his helmet. This has been MY argument since the first law was introduced in BC back in the 70's. And believe me - there are MANY cripples around who should have died. Sad - but a fact of life.

If I was a 'racer' - I would use EVERY safety device that was available to me. But I'm not - and should be allowed a choice.

IMHO ... (right, like I'M humble )


Thanks Don, I could not have said it better. Recently had a biker tell me he was surprised I did not wear a helmet as I am in the medical profession. I replied that I was surprised he wasn't minding his own business since he's not in the gossip profession.

Then a cager made it their business to tell me I SHOULD wear a helmet. I asked them if they knew the biggest cause of death in a car accident. They did not. I replied, "It's head injuries. So why aren't you wearing a helmet every time you get in your car?" Well, you can imagine the excuses I got. Blah, blah, blah, blah. But excuses don't change statistics. People see what they want to see.

I agree with many that it's a personal choice. Some of my passengers wear a helmet and I do not judge that. If I offer them a helmet and they don't want one, I always ask why. If they say "because you aren't wearing one", I hand them a helmet. Most of the time I choose NOT to wear a helmet. If it is raining I wear one to be able to see well in the rain. I know the risks. Do you know the risks of wearing a helmet? Surprise, there are risks people!! Some are deadly and I won't even start that conversation.

So please, if you feel safer and want to wear a helmet, good for you, but don't judge those that do not.
And if you feel safer and don't want to wear a helmet, good for you, but don't judge those that do.

It's all the same and all a choice. Respect your fellow bikers choice. It's his choice, not yours! MYOB!
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lstayner
Posted 2013-05-01 1:46 PM (#138032 - in reply to #135173)
Subject: Re: Helmet or no helmet?


Tourer

Posts: 416
Prairie City, IA United States
varyder - 2013-04-19 12:46 PM

as long as it has a D.O.T. sticker on it, it will protect you. If you need a sticker I know where you can get them...


Are you from the Government? Are you here to help? LOL
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Monkeyman
Posted 2013-05-01 3:17 PM (#138035 - in reply to #134619)
Subject: Re: Helmet or no helmet?


Iron Butt

Posts: 1066
Peru, IN
Helmets make sense just like an armored jacket (or leather). As long as you know the consequences of your actions (and they don't affect others), do what you want to do. (I wear one.) It's in the low 80s today and sunny. I didn't feel like wearing a lined leather jacket so I went with a t shirt. I KNOW what would have happened if I'd dumped the bike. It was still my choice to go without a jacket. I don't see anyone trying to pass a bill requiring everyone to wear armor (or leather...or armored leather). (BTW, I think I sunburned my arms. Bummer.)
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varyder
Posted 2013-05-01 4:46 PM (#138036 - in reply to #138035)
Subject: Re: Helmet or no helmet?


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
really, this is forum fodder that's been discussed from the time the first motorcycle was made. 20 years in the Army taught the more "safer" we got, the more accidents that seemed to happen. The common denominator was the individual's action in the situation, not the safety equipment. As a paratrooper we had a reserve parachute. The two fatality realated accidents that happened because of parachute malfunction the paratrooper failed to deploy the reserve in time or not at all. They had the equipment, but the training didn't stick. Yes, others had parachute malfunctions but they deployed the reserve in time. Without going to other morbid examples, I don't think we should legislate the use of helmets, insurance companies would do a better job if they had a no-helmet clause. Reading some of the accidents that occur, using safety gear may have lessened the injuries, but the skill of the rider seems to be the contributing factor to cause the accident. We can try to legislate this stuff, but as Don Tracy points out, far many more people get injured or killed doing dumb stuff around the house, than those who ride motorcycles. As I see now, with socialist medical insurance in play, you may find home activities being legislated also.

Edited by varyder 2013-05-01 4:48 PM
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