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Buford, GA United States | Well I am mad now as I just got to 45,000 miles on my 08 and I am having to get a new set of headlights...and does anybody know how long the battery is supposed to last as I still have the original on the bike and that is going to piss me off when it wears out too...not to mention I still have the original belt that I was supposed to change out at 30,000 that is starting to piss me off more every day... |
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New Bohemia, VA | Dude - there has to be other issues in your life that I hope you get worked out. Sorry you've got such a bum deal, or feel that you have. Again, personally, my bike is more than what I expect in a product and is by no means cheap. The cheap foam that you refer too has held up for 4 years, and is the most comfortable chair I own. I've sat in the saddle putting in over a 1,000 miles more than once in 15 - 19 hour stretches in comfort. The floorboards make this bike a true long hauler, but the seat is the best for a stock seat. I do have a hearing problem, but that problem alone would drive me to make the same assessment as you. However, I find the stock speakers more than adequate and they still give me great volume even strolling down the highway at 80mph.
This time, it is a rebuttal to you mr cowboy as it seems you are trying to make a point that most others do not share with you in from their own personal experience. It also sounds like that Victory did make an effort to improve quality control and work with better vendors, as one would expect. However, that is not making me rush to get a newer Vision just because I have one of the first to be made and have a lot miles on it. I see many more miles ahead.
Edited by varyder 2011-09-13 11:21 AM
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Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | Scott - Maybe you should STOP YELLING and pay attention to what others here are telling you. If your problems are as bad as that - just give ME the bike and I will relieve you of your torment.
Or do what TEACH did - bought a Harley ....
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Iron Butt
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Orlando, FL | Guys, guys, guys......chill. I like these cowboys that come in once in a while. If it weren't for them, who would we have to fu*k with?
But I rally do wish them there peeple wood learnt how to use a spelt cheecker! |
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Danbury, Connecticut | He's just cranky because he had to work a double shift at the university teaching English Literature. |
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New Bohemia, VA | SteveS - 2011-09-13 1:17 PM
He's just cranky because he had to work a double shift at the university teaching English Literature. I hear he's also a typing teacher... |
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Iron Butt
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| relic123 - 2011-09-12 10:34 PM 35,000 miles on mine and the fork seals are shot, fork oil shot, broken front fender, seat foam is broken down to nothing, clear coat is horrible, neck bearing shot....Problem is i love this bike and the way it handles, I just can undertand why a $23000 dollar machine is wearing out so fast when its made to be a touring machine that should be able to withstand the abuse and hold up like a goldwing.....40,000 on the goldwing and nothing but trouble free miles
If that is the case then you haven't been doing the maintenance as listed in the factory service schedule for the GL1800 Goldwing. Lifter clearance needs to be checked at 32,000 miles, fork oil changed at 32,000 miles, rear differential oil changed every 16,000 miles, cam chain tension checked every 32,000 miles. As far as the front fender being broke, check out the Goldwing forums and see that they have been having the exact same issues, especially when a fender extension is installed. Also, most Goldwing riders end up installing an aftermarket seat such as a Corbin or Travelcade as well as upgrading the front and rear suspensions with Traxxion components and they also have to replace the neck bearings with upgraded aftermarket tapered bearings from All Balls Bearings.
So far at 37,000 miles on my Vision my only failure has been my right fork seal which just happened and it is going into the shop on Wednesday to get both fork seals replaced and to have the steering stem adjusted. The problem with the clear coat is a minor problem, Victory addressed that issue in the 2010 Visions and from what I understand the problems have been successfully addressed, I simply use liquid glass once a year to polish my paint up and I have had no issues since.
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REXBURG IDAHO | ya it would not be so bad if you could change your head lights in just a few min but have you changed a light bulb yet? o ya and do you know haow many cranking anps your battery puts out another cheap ass product you might want to ck o ya buy the way i did put some new spark plug wire upgrades on my 08 vision and it starts a lot better so the factory wires were anthor cheap ass product. |
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Brighton, TN | Sheesh! The whining light has been lit! Please continue to whine until light has been extinguished!
Yeah! I had to change out both headlights at 45,000, yeah it took me a couple of hours and cramped hands! So, what, I couldn't figure out how to get some GM lights out of a truck a few years ago either. Once someone showed me it was much easier. Same deal, now that I changed them much easier. The charging system will take quite the load, there are some guys lit up like christmas trees and your point. And then you top it off with better and new spark plug wires and it starts better and probably gets 10mpg better also. Take another toke on the crack pipe and check back in with your rant, we are all waiting. The lamp for whining is still lit!
More than likely change your plugs and it will start better. I normally can tell a difference with it starting at around every 15k. |
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REXBURG IDAHO | no there are no other issues in my life just that you expect more from the new american motorcyle.. |
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REXBURG IDAHO | And no i am not one of those hallo heads on the hill teaching. mining people are used to equipment that hold up..
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REXBURG IDAHO | Did change the plugs at 5000 miles with no change. and for the lights no one was thinking about if you are out on the road and burn out your headlights. or maybe people dont ride at night where you are from? |
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Iron Butt
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Mt. Vernon, WASH. | Dude, if you're so unhappy with your purchase, either sell it and go buy back you '91 883 'Sporty', go buy another bike or shoot yourself, but, please take your silly assed whine down the hall to see if someone down there will listen, here you're preaching to the chior. Have you tried taking your issues to your states Attorney Generals Consumer Complaint Office?, OH, you haven't?
Around here we know that for people like you we can display 'sympathy', it's between 'shit' and 'tough' in the Dictionary |
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REXBURG IDAHO | I agree the speakers will give you great volume but the clarity sucks you should look at the speakers and what they are built like and then you WOULD know what i am talking about. and do the same with the seat and as well as you i have been in that seat for 19 hrs. guys i think you are all missing the point about what i am talking about and that is that there are some very cheap ass parts that this bike has been built with and that we all should let the factory know that the cusomer knows what they have put in a 24,000.00 dollar bike and that we expect more for are hard earned dollar. and if you all have a problem with that so be it. |
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Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | Well - we tried. He don't listen.
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New Bohemia, VA | ridingcowboy - 2011-09-13 2:41 PM
And no i am not one of those hallo heads on the hill teaching. mining people are used to equipment that hold up..
I think a digger is slightly different than a motorcycle, regardless of the make or model. |
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Iron Butt
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Central New York | I had to lay on the garage floor today and put 4 pounds of air in EACH tire. Does Victory care? Noooo, cheap a-- tires, only 13K and already need air! |
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Brighton, TN | Oh the travshamockery of it all. I was thinking cheap aass air, it leaked out. For all of you who don't like cheap ass air!!! Quit breathing it, I'm looking to purchase more and upgrade the species. |
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Tucson, AZ | Not here agree or not, but almost three years and 24,000 miles, all have been trouble free. Never even used the the one year factory warranty even once. I have never owned a more comfortable or trouble free bike. Maybe I just lucked out and got one of the good ones.
Just my 2 cents. |
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knoxville, iowa | I understand your frustration cheap but I for one believe that we have become a cheap crap society. What do you buy that is of the quality it was years ago. Maybe my vision is made with some cheap crappy parts and accessories but at least it is made in america. Would you feel better if it was made in china where alot of our products are made? When I was at theAVR this last month during the factory tour the guy next to me ask how much of the average victory was made in america and the response was more than 80%. That means alot to me. I was born american and I buy american as much as possible. I think you could pick apart anything made these days and call it cheap crap. At least for me my vision has been a blessing to own and many trouble free miles. Its not perfect but at least I know that there are families in spirit lake that are thankful to me for buying american. So cry your eyes out, get it out of your system then go for a long ride and enjoy life as we all do. |
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Cleveland, GA | Dude... typing in all caps just makes it really hard to read what you say.
I wish you well with your bike; sorry that you're having issues. I've put 48,000 miles on my 08 and never had any serious problems - and my butt has never complained about the seat. As a matter of fact, my wife loves the ride so much that she is the one who told me to buy it, based on how comfortable it was for her on the back seat.
Mother Vic has always taken care of me. There have been a few minor issues that my dealer took care of with no hassles. Love my bike; don't want to ever have to give it up. |
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Southeast Idaho | Hmmmm......Interesting comments, for me the ride is not about being in the shop while wasting precious days of summer, it is more about being on the open road with no destination only wishing I had more vacation to make the ride last longer. My frustrations are legit because let me tell you when your in Colorado in Estes Park and you realize your lights have burned out and there is no simple way to replace them at the next convienence store it kinda frustrates you. Also when your riding along listening to a banging noise and after pulling over to investigat your 19500 mile motorcycle you find your front/rear portion of the fender has all but fell off it kinda frustrates you.....To buy a bike that has a oil change interval of 2500 miles when oil is not falling in price, Kinda Frustrates Me...To sit in a seat on a 850 mile day from oregon to california, and realize that the damn foam has broken down to the point of needing replaced really frustrates me...To show up to my buddys home, hop on his newer 08 Vision and realize my front suspension is rough compared to his when only having 15000 miles on my machine pisses me off...To find a new little scratch daily in what victory calls a clear coat hurts my wallet knowing a new paint job will have to be done to keep the bike looking nice. To pull a speaker out and say "huh I wonder what china factory made that" dissapoints me in such a high end bike
Point is in all this is not to start a war on whos bike is outlasting the next guys. Its to point out the facts. If Victory is honestly going to play in the market of the "Touring Class" then they have to make the auxillary components of the bike last with what has to be one of the "Best" frame/motor combinations out there. Am I expecting perfection.....no! But am I expecting a bike that will compete in all aspect of other touring models like the "Goldwing/BMW".....Yes!!! Just looking at service intervels shows that this is not the case yet.
Again I will say this has been a magnificent Bike and over the previous 9 ive owned it has had some real highlights but unfortunatley has had some major downfalls that one would not expect in a "High end Machine"
Lets Face it if you bought a high end car what would your expectations be? Bad clear coats, cheap foamed seats...etc No way, we pay the price we pay to have the best and be above the rest in all areas of riding.
I appreciate and applaude Victory in there vision design and where they wanted to take this machine, but frown on some of the "shortcuts" taken on what instead of being a visionary bike ended up being "Just another Bike in my Garage"
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Dallas, Texas | 
Goes with the whine... |
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Orlando, FL | I love my Vision 8 Ball. Had her for 5 months and 6500 miles of bliss. But I am disappointed that I actually have to clean my freaking windshield every week. Geez, ya's think a touring bike would have an auto cleaner or something~ And where in the heck are the wipers?
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