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sgiacci
Posted 2012-01-23 1:51 PM (#105977 - in reply to #105944)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Tourer

Posts: 401
cw1115 - 2012-01-23 6:57 AM

Wow, Stephen. I have the same tour bag and hate it. I got it with the bike without the straps and was never happy with the different ways I tried to secure it. It wanted to lean forward and bothered me. I'll have to try that.
I have also tried the garage remote twice. Both times after the bike sits in the Florida sun the adhesive on the velcro would let go.
I guess I need better quality velcro.


There is good and bad Velcro out there, and I found that the "Velcro" name brand stuff is the best. You also need to make sure the surface is clean - really clean. Some cleaners leave a residue - except for rubbing alcohol - so use rubbing alcohol on a gauze pad (from your first aid kit). Also make sure you don't do it in direct sun, and let the spot dry out completely.

If the bike is sitting out in the heat for that long you could also use my other cheap solution - bike cover. Here in Virginia we get the same super heat, but I make sure the bike is in the shade or I put the cover on it for those times it will be parked for a long time in the sun.


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sgiacci
Posted 2012-01-23 8:43 PM (#106001 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


Tourer

Posts: 401
The integrated cup holder starts with:

www.TheLiquidCaddy.com - This cup holder is perfect since it uses several different mounts, and they screw on and off.

1" x 1/16" aluminum strap
1" x 1/8" steep strap
flat black paint

drill and tap

Use the aluminum strap to figure out how to bend it and drill the holes. You will be using either the left or right dashboard mounting screw and sliding it in between the upper and lower dash parts. You will need to remove the aluminum valance in order to separate the dashboard.

After you get the best fit with the aluminum strap, use it as your template to bend the steel strap.

Drill and tap the steep strap (for the cup holder only), paint or powder coat it, then install it.

You can optionally notch the upper dash part for a tighter fit like I did, but you don't have to.

You can also combine this with the cheap arm rests:

http://www.vision-riders.com/bb/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=7099&pos...

Then you can have 3 locations to mount the same cup holder. You can also get a couple of cup holders for the driver and passenger. It also screws on and off - fast - so you can keep in your bags until you need it.



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Mike
Posted 2012-01-23 9:55 PM (#106009 - in reply to #105922)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 32
East Haven, CT
sgiacci - 2012-01-22 8:58 PM

Cheaper touring bag many of you already know is the Saddlemen BR4100, but I have found a cheap hidden method to strap the bag down.

All you need is an 8"x1/4" steel rod, and route the provided straps under/behind the seat. Then just tuck them under the seat when not in use, or just pull them out and store.

One important thing - you need the trunk installed.



Elegant simple improvement!!!!
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loren2
Posted 2012-01-24 10:45 PM (#106086 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Cruiser

Posts: 166
Bullhead City, AZ
Bought a keyfob garagedoor opener at Lowes takes no space easy acccess and it leaves no marks on the VV. Had it 2 years in heat rain and even snow once its like a Timex
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sgiacci
Posted 2012-01-26 9:49 AM (#106170 - in reply to #106086)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Tourer

Posts: 401
loren2 - 2012-01-24 10:45 PM

Bought a keyfob garagedoor opener at Lowes takes no space easy acccess and it leaves no marks on the VV. Had it 2 years in heat rain and even snow once its like a Timex


???, sounds like a good idea. Need more information.
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Rollin'
Posted 2012-01-26 9:58 AM (#106171 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


Iron Butt

Posts: 825
, WI

 

 GPS mount = one piece of flat-stock and a bolt.

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loren2
Posted 2012-01-29 1:25 AM (#106318 - in reply to #106170)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Cruiser

Posts: 166
Bullhead City, AZ
Lowes sells a key fob that is also a garage door opener. It has three different buttons so it will open three differant doors it is the same sime as a lock remote for a car. It may be a Chamberlin brand as that is the brand as my openers are $30
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donetracey
Posted 2012-01-29 2:11 AM (#106320 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Visionary

Posts: 2118
Pitt Meadows, BC Canada
SMART CAR --- my wife bought one to take care of ALL of the issues discussed here. And then some ....

Me? I'd be happy with a back pack - but make do with the ENORMOUS stock configuration of my VV ! You folks ever read "David & Suzanne's Big Fricken' Canadian Motorcycle Adventure" ??? Those guys (and some of you) obviously need a MOTORHOME - not a MOTORCYCLE. Don't upscale your bike to fit your needs - downscale your needs to fit your bike !!!

I know - "Shut up... "

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cchristo
Posted 2012-01-29 8:42 AM (#106326 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


Tourer

Posts: 337
san antonio, tx
Homemade Stereo Bluetooth Dongle costs about $30 - $40 compared to $200 - $250 for the Vic version

http://www.vision-riders.com/bb/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=10099&po...







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sgiacci
Posted 2012-01-30 9:24 PM (#106441 - in reply to #106320)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Tourer

Posts: 401
donetracey - 2012-01-29 2:11 AM

SMART CAR --- my wife bought one to take care of ALL of the issues discussed here. And then some ....

Me? I'd be happy with a back pack - but make do with the ENORMOUS stock configuration of my VV ! You folks ever read "David & Suzanne's Big Fricken' Canadian Motorcycle Adventure" ??? Those guys (and some of you) obviously need a MOTORHOME - not a MOTORCYCLE. Don't upscale your bike to fit your needs - downscale your needs to fit your bike !!!

I know - "Shut up... "



Huh, you lost me.
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willtill
Posted 2012-01-31 4:25 AM (#106455 - in reply to #106441)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Visionary

Posts: 1365
Central Maryland
sgiacci - 2012-01-30 10:24 PM

donetracey - 2012-01-29 2:11 AM

SMART CAR --- my wife bought one to take care of ALL of the issues discussed here. And then some ....

Me? I'd be happy with a back pack - but make do with the ENORMOUS stock configuration of my VV ! You folks ever read "David & Suzanne's Big Fricken' Canadian Motorcycle Adventure" ??? Those guys (and some of you) obviously need a MOTORHOME - not a MOTORCYCLE. Don't upscale your bike to fit your needs - downscale your needs to fit your bike !!!

I know - "Shut up... "



Huh, you lost me.


He sounds like a "minimalist"
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Blister
Posted 2012-02-04 10:36 AM (#106852 - in reply to #89961)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


Cruiser

Posts: 100
I have to thank Sqiacci for the bike pump idea! (Topeak pocket shock)I too like to save money when I can ....so I can buy other stuff! lol but the pump works great and I bought mine for $35.00, 25.00 cheaper than the Victory pump if I am not mistaken! Thanx again Blister
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Rollin'
Posted 2012-02-04 10:58 AM (#106854 - in reply to #106455)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Iron Butt

Posts: 825
, WI

willtill - 2012-01-31 4:25 AM sgiacci - 2012-01-30 10:24 PM donetracey - 2012-01-29 2:11 AM SMART CAR --- my wife bought one to take care of ALL of the issues discussed here. And then some .... Me? I'd be happy with a back pack - but make do with the ENORMOUS stock configuration of my VV ! You folks ever read "David & Suzanne's Big Fricken' Canadian Motorcycle Adventure" ??? Those guys (and some of you) obviously need a MOTORHOME - not a MOTORCYCLE. Don't upscale your bike to fit your needs - downscale your needs to fit your bike !!! I know - "Shut up... " Huh, you lost me. He sounds like a "minimalist"

 

He has a Vision Tour. That is a motorhome!

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sgiacci
Posted 2012-02-06 1:53 PM (#107031 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


Tourer

Posts: 401
If you have an '08 Vision you will find that you do not the ability to mount a RAM ball in the mirror socket, and that leaves you with a bar clamp. Sad thing is that the odd shape of the bars make the bar clamp a pain in the arse. I stumbled on a real simple solution.

Get yourself this Ram mount base (RAM-B-238U) for about $7:

http://www.ram-mount.com/CatalogResults/PartDetails/tabid/63/partid...

Remove the 2 screws on the clutch reservoir, get 2 longer screws and mount the base using those 2 mounting points. I find it real lucky that those holes line up almost dead on. Then use what ever arm or mount you want, I happen to have a molded mount for my Droid X.


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sgiacci
Posted 2012-02-06 2:09 PM (#107034 - in reply to #106326)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


Tourer

Posts: 401
cchristo - 2012-01-29 8:42 AM

Homemade Stereo Bluetooth Dongle costs about $30 - $40 compared to $200 - $250 for the Vic version

http://www.vision-riders.com/bb/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=10099&po...





Bluetooth from your phone to your radio.


This is not a cheap solution, but a very reasonable one. Get an iPod/iPhone plug ($50 or $99 depending on model year) and a fipo bluetooth adapter ($30-$45). And just plug them in. You can't control the phone from the radio, but you can pipe music to the radio. The sound is ok, and can be prone to interferance.

I spent $70 for my set up.



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Turk
Posted 2012-02-07 5:51 AM (#107077 - in reply to #106326)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


Iron Butt

Posts: 612
cchristo - 2012-01-29 8:42 AM

Homemade Stereo Bluetooth Dongle costs about $30 - $40 compared to $200 - $250 for the Vic version

http://www.vision-riders.com/bb/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=10099&po...





This is not for those who have the accessory cable (which drives a CB, CD, and / or XM radio ) in that spare port at the back of the radio.



Edited by Turk 2012-02-07 5:52 AM
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cchristo
Posted 2012-02-07 6:27 AM (#107078 - in reply to #107077)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


Tourer

Posts: 337
san antonio, tx
Turk - 2012-02-07 5:51 AM

cchristo - 2012-01-29 8:42 AM

Homemade Stereo Bluetooth Dongle costs about $30 - $40 compared to $200 - $250 for the Vic version

http://www.vision-riders.com/bb/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=10099&po...





This is not for those who have the accessory cable (which drives a CB, CD, and / or XM radio ) in that spare port at the back of the radio.



Actually, it can be done if you have the CD or XM. If you already have these items installed, you already have the plug.
You just need to add the wiring that is detailed in the article I wrote. It would work if you have the CB installed too, but doesn't make sense to do, since you must still plug your headset in to communicate over the CB.
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cchristo
Posted 2012-02-07 6:36 AM (#107080 - in reply to #107034)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


Tourer

Posts: 337
san antonio, tx
sgiacci - 2012-02-06 2:09 PM

cchristo - 2012-01-29 8:42 AM

Homemade Stereo Bluetooth Dongle costs about $30 - $40 compared to $200 - $250 for the Vic version

http://www.vision-riders.com/bb/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=10099&po...





Bluetooth from your phone to your radio.


This is not a cheap solution, but a very reasonable one. Get an iPod/iPhone plug ($50 or $99 depending on model year) and a fipo bluetooth adapter ($30-$45). And just plug them in. You can't control the phone from the radio, but you can pipe music to the radio. The sound is ok, and can be prone to interferance.

I spent $70 for my set up.



This does not serve the same function as the bluetooth dongle (factory or homemade version). The dongle allows you to listen to audio from any source playing through your stereo through your bluetooth enabled headset or earbuds.

To achieve the same results as doing this fipo bluetooth mod, and for much less money (this is "cheap solutions and modifications" post after all) you can just plug your iphone, mp3 player, ipod, directly in to the factory supplied 1/8" audio cable and set your stereo to "AUX". It will also eliminate the interference you mentioned as well.
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Turk
Posted 2012-02-07 8:34 AM (#107083 - in reply to #107078)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


Iron Butt

Posts: 612
cchristo - 2012-02-07 6:27 AM

Turk - 2012-02-07 5:51 AM

cchristo - 2012-01-29 8:42 AM

Homemade Stereo Bluetooth Dongle costs about $30 - $40 compared to $200 - $250 for the Vic version

http://www.vision-riders.com/bb/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=10099&po...





This is not for those who have the accessory cable (which drives a CB, CD, and / or XM radio ) in that spare port at the back of the radio.



Actually, it can be done if you have the CD or XM. If you already have these items installed, you already have the plug.
You just need to add the wiring that is detailed in the article I wrote. It would work if you have the CB installed too, but doesn't make sense to do, since you must still plug your headset in to communicate over the CB.


So, I would merely open up the accessory cable, locate wires 4,5, and 11, and simply 'tap' them ?

Also, since this accessory cable is for devices that "input" into the existing radio, I can see it working for anything connected to it, such as my XM radio, but how does that help me listen to the built in radio or an mp3 player over bluetooth? Those devices aren't connected via the accessory connector.
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cchristo
Posted 2012-02-07 10:19 AM (#107090 - in reply to #107083)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


Tourer

Posts: 337
san antonio, tx
Turk - 2012-02-07 8:34 AM

cchristo - 2012-02-07 6:27 AM

Turk - 2012-02-07 5:51 AM

cchristo - 2012-01-29 8:42 AM

Homemade Stereo Bluetooth Dongle costs about $30 - $40 compared to $200 - $250 for the Vic version

http://www.vision-riders.com/bb/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=10099&po...





This is not for those who have the accessory cable (which drives a CB, CD, and / or XM radio ) in that spare port at the back of the radio.



Actually, it can be done if you have the CD or XM. If you already have these items installed, you already have the plug.
You just need to add the wiring that is detailed in the article I wrote. It would work if you have the CB installed too, but doesn't make sense to do, since you must still plug your headset in to communicate over the CB.


So, I would merely open up the accessory cable, locate wires 4,5, and 11, and simply 'tap' them ?

Also, since this accessory cable is for devices that "input" into the existing radio, I can see it working for anything connected to it, such as my XM radio, but how does that help me listen to the built in radio or an mp3 player over bluetooth? Those devices aren't connected via the accessory connector.


Yes, you would simply tap into the correct pinholes.

I think we are confusing two separate items. The dongle does not facilitate the addition of any external inputs such as XM or CD. It only takes what would be sent to the speakers by the stereo and broadcasts it, via bluetooth, to a bluetooth receiver, generally something like a Cardo or Senna headset, or a set of bluetooth enabled earbuds.

The 1/8" stereo input cord that comes with the bike, or the upgraded Ipod cable allows you to play an external device such as an ipod, cassette walkman, MP3 player, etc. through your stereo. It has nothing to do with bluetooth. You could, if you wanted, plug a bluetooth reciever into the 1/8" AUX cord and stream music to your stereo from your bluetooth enabled device. I don't know why you would though.
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victoryvisiontour
Posted 2012-02-07 11:13 AM (#107094 - in reply to #107031)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


Iron Butt

Posts: 763
Anderson, IN (48mi NE of downtown Indianapolis)
sgiacci - 2012-02-06 2:53 PM

If you have an '08 Vision you will find that you do not the ability to mount a RAM ball in the mirror socket, and that leaves you with a bar clamp. Sad thing is that the odd shape of the bars make the bar clamp a pain in the arse. I stumbled on a real simple solution.

Get yourself this Ram mount base (RAM-B-238U) for about $7:

http://www.ram-mount.com/CatalogResults/PartDetails/tabid/63/partid...

Remove the 2 screws on the clutch reservoir, get 2 longer screws and mount the base using those 2 mounting points. I find it real lucky that those holes line up almost dead on. Then use what ever arm or mount you want, I happen to have a molded mount for my Droid X.


sgiacci,
I have been using a different method to mount my phone/GPS that I am not 100% satisfied with. I have been looking at the RAM mounts, but have not found anything I was pleased with due to the handlebar issue you mention. I was going to drill & tap the brake reservoir where a mirror would normally be mounted on most motorcycles then thread in a RAM ball. Your route will save me the drilling and tapping. Or I can go ahead and drill & tap and mount more stuff. Thanks for posting. You saved me some time searching for the right RAM components.
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victoryvisiontour
Posted 2012-02-07 11:16 AM (#107095 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


Iron Butt

Posts: 763
Anderson, IN (48mi NE of downtown Indianapolis)
I suppose this qualifies for this thread.
USB port for Victory Vision
http://www.vision-riders.com/bb/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=10737&po...

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sgiacci
Posted 2012-02-07 12:19 PM (#107103 - in reply to #107080)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


Tourer

Posts: 401
cchristo - 2012-02-07 6:36 AM

sgiacci - 2012-02-06 2:09 PM

cchristo - 2012-01-29 8:42 AM

Homemade Stereo Bluetooth Dongle costs about $30 - $40 compared to $200 - $250 for the Vic version

http://www.vision-riders.com/bb/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=10099&po...





Bluetooth from your phone to your radio.


This is not a cheap solution, but a very reasonable one. Get an iPod/iPhone plug ($50 or $99 depending on model year) and a fipo bluetooth adapter ($30-$45). And just plug them in. You can't control the phone from the radio, but you can pipe music to the radio. The sound is ok, and can be prone to interferance.

I spent $70 for my set up.



This does not serve the same function as the bluetooth dongle (factory or homemade version). The dongle allows you to listen to audio from any source playing through your stereo through your bluetooth enabled headset or earbuds.

To achieve the same results as doing this fipo bluetooth mod, and for much less money (this is "cheap solutions and modifications" post after all) you can just plug your iphone, mp3 player, ipod, directly in to the factory supplied 1/8" audio cable and set your stereo to "AUX". It will also eliminate the interference you mentioned as well.


True, that is why I called it "Bluetooth from your phone to your radio" - not "radio to your Bluetooth".

What you missed was us non-iPod/iPhone owners who have Android phones for our music, GPS, and so on. Since there isn't an adaptor for us, the Bluetooth allows us to run the music into the Vision Radio while allowing us to keep the phone charged through the USB. Yes I can use the 1/8" plug, but some mounts make it difficult to use both plugs at the same time, and the bigger phones are really cramped in the glove box with both plugs too.

One other really good use for you setup is a low level output for people who want to add a high power amplifier and speakers.
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Turk
Posted 2012-02-07 12:22 PM (#107105 - in reply to #107090)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


Iron Butt

Posts: 612
I guess what is confusing me about your setup is that you "appear" to be tapping into the input side of things via the accessory connector instead of tapping the existing output side running to the speakers.

cchristo - 2012-02-07 10:19 AM

Turk - 2012-02-07 8:34 AM

cchristo - 2012-02-07 6:27 AM

Turk - 2012-02-07 5:51 AM

cchristo - 2012-01-29 8:42 AM

Homemade Stereo Bluetooth Dongle costs about $30 - $40 compared to $200 - $250 for the Vic version

http://www.vision-riders.com/bb/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=10099&po...





This is not for those who have the accessory cable (which drives a CB, CD, and / or XM radio ) in that spare port at the back of the radio.



Actually, it can be done if you have the CD or XM. If you already have these items installed, you already have the plug.
You just need to add the wiring that is detailed in the article I wrote. It would work if you have the CB installed too, but doesn't make sense to do, since you must still plug your headset in to communicate over the CB.


So, I would merely open up the accessory cable, locate wires 4,5, and 11, and simply 'tap' them ?

Also, since this accessory cable is for devices that "input" into the existing radio, I can see it working for anything connected to it, such as my XM radio, but how does that help me listen to the built in radio or an mp3 player over bluetooth? Those devices aren't connected via the accessory connector.


Yes, you would simply tap into the correct pinholes.

I think we are confusing two separate items. The dongle does not facilitate the addition of any external inputs such as XM or CD. It only takes what would be sent to the speakers by the stereo and broadcasts it, via bluetooth, to a bluetooth receiver, generally something like a Cardo or Senna headset, or a set of bluetooth enabled earbuds.

The 1/8" stereo input cord that comes with the bike, or the upgraded Ipod cable allows you to play an external device such as an ipod, cassette walkman, MP3 player, etc. through your stereo. It has nothing to do with bluetooth. You could, if you wanted, plug a bluetooth reciever into the 1/8" AUX cord and stream music to your stereo from your bluetooth enabled device. I don't know why you would though.
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sgiacci
Posted 2012-02-07 12:33 PM (#107106 - in reply to #107094)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


Tourer

Posts: 401
victoryvisiontour - 2012-02-07 11:13 AM

sgiacci - 2012-02-06 2:53 PM

If you have an '08 Vision you will find that you do not the ability to mount a RAM ball in the mirror socket, and that leaves you with a bar clamp. Sad thing is that the odd shape of the bars make the bar clamp a pain in the arse. I stumbled on a real simple solution.

Get yourself this Ram mount base (RAM-B-238U) for about $7:

http://www.ram-mount.com/CatalogResults/PartDetails/tabid/63/partid...

Remove the 2 screws on the clutch reservoir, get 2 longer screws and mount the base using those 2 mounting points. I find it real lucky that those holes line up almost dead on. Then use what ever arm or mount you want, I happen to have a molded mount for my Droid X.


sgiacci,
I have been using a different method to mount my phone/GPS that I am not 100% satisfied with. I have been looking at the RAM mounts, but have not found anything I was pleased with due to the handlebar issue you mention. I was going to drill & tap the brake reservoir where a mirror would normally be mounted on most motorcycles then thread in a RAM ball. Your route will save me the drilling and tapping. Or I can go ahead and drill & tap and mount more stuff. Thanks for posting. You saved me some time searching for the right RAM components.


When you break through the paint on the pot metal and it will likely start to flake off and corrode. Hence I didn't do it.


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