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Rancho Cucamonga, CA | 180/60 = sidewall height of 106.55(4.195") or 24.39" dia - Stock Dunlop E3 (Dunlop spec for 16x5 rim)
195/55 = sidewall height of 107.25(4.224") or 24.448" dia
185/55 = sidewall height of 101.75(4.005") or 24.010" dia
195/50 = sidewall height of 97.50(3.838") or 23.676" dia
185/50 = sidewall height of 92.50(3.641") or 23.282" dia
205/50 = sidewall height of 102.50(4.035") or 24.070" dia
The smaller the diameter (off stock), the faster your speedometer will read.
A larger diameter tire will mean you are going faster than the speedo says.
With a smaller diameter tire, your odometer will rack up more miles than actual.
A larger diameter tire wil rack up miles slower.
Car tire measurements based on a 16x6" rim (actual diameter may be different)
Some of the 195 size tires darksiders are recommending are not recommended for 5" wide rims.
To keep a 50 sidewall, you would have to go up to 205 on the width. I don't know if that would work, even without the HitchDoc.
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Central Wisconsin | aaronrkelly - 2011-04-24 11:28 PM No way to adjust that I know of.....I actually like the fast reading. I have a tendency to run a little fast anyways.....so this way I can run 65 to 68mph......and really not be speeding all that much. Mines more like 5mph off though. Yeah...it does seem to provide a built in speed comfort zone. I'm just not happy racking up an extra 3 artificial miles for every 60.
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Central Wisconsin | wroman - 2011-04-25 12:20 AM Well maybe Thomas can say how the Falken is wearing. I expect the potenza will beat the Falken from what was reported but a around half the price of an E3, so what. My Falken 512 195/50/16 as of today, has about 7000 miles. Measured the thread depth at 6/32" in center and 7/32" on the sides. Been running 38lbs of air, I think I'll drop down to 36lbs.
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Central Wisconsin | Nozzledog - 2011-04-25 1:24 AM 180/60 = sidewall height of 106.55(4.195" or 24.39" dia - Stock Dunlop E3 (Dunlop spec for 16x5 rim) I'm thinking of ordering this Dunlap SP Winter Sport 3D RunOnFlat http://gl1800riders.com/forums/showthread.php?t=262953 Dunlap website
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| I know that Dakota Digital makes a device to recalibrate your speed-o You could talk to them about adapting one to a victory |
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Central Wisconsin | john frey - 2011-04-25 11:24 AM I know that Dakota Digital makes a device to recalibrate your speed-o You could talk to them about adapting one to a victory   Dakota Digital HealTech
Looks like one of these two could possibly work. Just don't want to put the money out for something that might work. I'll probably just buy the right size CT.
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Rancho Cucamonga, CA | Thomas - 2011-04-25 8:46 AM
I'm thinking of ordering this Dunlap SP Winter Sport 3D RunOnFlat http://gl1800riders.com/forums/showthread.php?t=262953 Dunlap website
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I was looking at the same tire, but I don't know if I want the 195/55 or the 175/60 (24.3" dia on 5" rim)
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Central Wisconsin | I was looking at the same tire, but I don't know if I want the 195/55 or the 175/60 (24.3" dia on 5" rim) Would a narrower tire handle more like a MT? Don't know for a fact...you have about 5.7 inches of tread width on the 175/60/16. Compared to 6.5 - 6.8 inch tread width for the 195/55/16.
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New Bohemia, Va | I'm curious as to how hot your tires are getting for those who run the darkside. There are other concerns in my mind, and maybe not a big deal, but the more I read about CT users the more I'm convince to stay with the rated stock tire for the bike.
Has anyone gotten down and checked the tempature on the CT after a good run?
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Akron, Ohio | I have felt the tire with my hand. It was warm to the touch. Felt about the same as the front.
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Gettysburg, 2008 Tour Premium | Jeff not trying to highjack your thread but the tire is on and just did 45-50 miles on various roads. At first I thought I had made a big mistake, did not like the handling at all. After riding this bike for a few years it just did not handle the same. Then I remembered to give the sidewalls a chance to brake in. Around 25 miles it did not feel as bad and I noticed it started to respond quicker to steering input. Ten miles later started to get a feel for it and better still. The real shocker is when I climbed up the mountain heading home I am thinking that I still do not like the feeling as much as a M/C tire. I glanced at the speedo and I was going faster than I usually do and it felt as if I was creeping along. So I did something a little out of character for me and I dropped a couple of gears and I came into the sharpest corner on the climb doing double the 25 posted and the bike never even gave an indication it was being pushed. After that I played with acceleration and under throttle the bike was very very stable. I cannot get over the feeling.
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Stony Mountain, MB Canada | I am almost at the end of the life of my stock tire, so now I am at cross roads as I have to put on a new rear tire before I leave on a fairly long trip at the end on May and don't know if I should put on a stock tire or go to the darkside.
So after reading all of the post on the Vision Riders site about the darkside, which is the best tire to go with?
Is it one of the following:
- Bridgestone Potenza G019 195/55-16.
- Dunlop SP Winter Sport (Run Flat) 175/60-16.
- General Altimax 195/55-16.
- Michelin Primacy 195/55-16.
Or is ther a different brand or type of tire that might work better than the ones listed above?
Has anyone had experience using more than one brand of darkside tire after they switched from the stock tire?
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| I was wondering isn't the speed-o sensor in the motor and picks up a reading from a gears? I don't think the rear tire has any thing to do with the speed |
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Central Wisconsin | john frey - 2011-05-03 6:03 PM I was wondering isn't the speed-o sensor in the motor and picks up a reading from a gears? I don't think the rear tire has any thing to do with the speed Can't say for a fact on how the Victory Vision speed sensor works. I can say that my bike odometer is on with my GPS odometer using a 175/60/16 rear CT . Before I was running a 195/50/16 CT and the bike odometer was clocking 2-3 extra miles for every 60 compared the GPS odometer.
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Rancho Cucamonga, CA | Unless the speedometer is measuring the speed of the road going by, they all work the same. They are set to oem specs that state every revolution is with a 180/60-16 tire will move the bike 76.6 inches (24.4 x pi) forward. Where it measures the revolutions could be at the wheel or the transmission, doesn't matter. If you use a tire that is smaller by say 1/2 inches diameter, it travels 74.8 inches per revolution but the bike still thinks it is going 76.6 inches, so the bike is going slower than the speedometer reads, and not as far either.
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, WI | etspastimes - 2011-04-12 7:34 PM My first c/t was a Kumo run flat. The sidewall was stiffer, but bike rode good. Due to the higher weight of me and the amount of stuff I carry, I run 42 psi. I have a Michelin PRIMACY on now. The shoulders are rounded and ride great. Hope this helps. ET http://ImageEvent.com/etspastimes/rosiescartireinstalled http://photos.imageevent.com/etspastimes/rosiescartireinstalled/small/186.JPG Any update on the Michelin Primacy? Are you using the Primacy Alpin? |
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Flowery Branch Ga | I recently went to ct on my 8 Ball. Freedom Powersports in Cummings mounted mine. Be prepared to wait. Dropped off the bike and tire on Sat. mod morning. It was ready mid day on Wed. Using the Potenza185-55-16. |
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elgin mn | Why wait rode my bike to my dealer unstrapped my Hankook Ventus V4 es 195/55/R16, hopped on a used Hammer, went to an apointment and 40 minutes later I was back paying $54 dollars to mount and install 3 oz of dyna beads. rode 150 miles and havent slowed down since. Install was done june 28 as of today have 5000 miles on tire,E3 would be 1/2 wore out!!!!! lovin the darkside |
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Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | HaHaHaHa - you guys are a RIOT! Love reading this stuff ! Saves me all the trouble of thinking about MY problems. Keep it up !!!
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New Brunswick , Canada | Load Capacity: Bridgestone Potenza G019 195/55-16---------------> 1201 pounds
Dunlop SP Winter Sport (Run Flat) 175/60-16------> 1047 lbs
General Altimax 195/55-16--------------------------> 1201 lbs
Michelin Primacy 195/55-16-------------------------> 1201 lbs
Hankook Ventus V4 es 195/55/R16-----------------> 1201 lbs
The load capacity of the Dunlop is on the low side......riding two up is too much weight ! |
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Rancho Cucamonga, CA | Lojak - 2011-09-08 8:31 PM
Load Capacity: Bridgestone Potenza G019 195/55-16---------------> 1201 pounds
Dunlop SP Winter Sport (Run Flat) 175/60-16------> 1047 lbs
General Altimax 195/55-16--------------------------> 1201 lbs
Michelin Primacy 195/55-16-------------------------> 1201 lbs
Hankook Ventus V4 es 195/55/R16-----------------> 1201 lbs
The load capacity of the Dunlop is on the low side......riding two up is too much weight !
The load rating of the Dunlop E3 rear tire is 80 (992lbs) , so all those tires are rated better than OEM. |
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| Go for the CT its a good ride and your speed-o doesn't change that much where you'll get a ticket. You can still scrap your floor boads and not even get over to the edge of the tire. If you look close you'll see I'm not close to the edge of the tire and I scrap as mush as I want.
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Rancho Cucamonga, CA | Put the Dunlop Winter Sport on today. Took it to a local shop where I know the owner is a darksider too. 55 minutes later I'm on the road with a 175/60/16 CT and 2 oz. of Dynabeads under me. He had no issues mounting the tire to the Ness Rim, it seated with very little pressure. I was amazed considering all the war stories here. He said he filled it to 36psi but my TPMS says 38. To be honest, on the ride home, if I didn't know it was a car tire, I wouldn't have noticed a difference. The only thing I noticed was it felt a little out of balance. Do you think 2 oz of Dynabeads is enough for a CT? Didn't notice a thing on the freeway so it might have just been the truck worn street I was on. Or the thought of a CT under me was playing with my mind.
I like the look of it. It's kinda rounded and not real obvious that it is a CT.
I will get a better feel for it over the weekend.
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Central Wisconsin | Darrell, Good to hear the Dunlop Winter Sport mounted up nice. If the tire was out of balance I think it would have been shaking on the the freeway. I'm running 3 oz's of DynaBeads in mine. You probably know this already ... is the red dot on the tire next to the valve stem and all previous lead weights removed? Looking forward for your weekend review 
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Moravia, IA | Nozzledog - 2011-09-17 3:00 AM
The only thing I noticed was it felt a little out of balance. Do you think 2 oz of Dynabeads is enough for a CT? Didn't notice a thing on the freeway so it might have just been the truck worn street I was on. Or the thought of a CT under me was playing with my mind.
I like the look of it. It's kinda rounded and not real obvious that it is a CT.
I will get a better feel for it over the weekend.
I bet it was the street. My Potenza really amplifies a "crappy" road....I run 3 or 4 oz of airsoft pellets in mine......Ive had the bike up to 118 and never a shake. |
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not a debate...need darkside opinions
