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Puddle Jumper
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San Antonio, TX | I like the MOABL, but I ordered the 24 LED stingerz and wired them off of my 4710 enabled trunk turn/brake lights and now I have all kinds of Blink! Still get a baby-MOABL action when all 48 of them blink, then solid on braking. Thanks for the instruction and motivation.
Now I have to figure out how many more LED's I can put on it before it starts looking tacky! |
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Visionary
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San Antonio, TX | ClayinSA - 2009-12-06 2:59 PM
I like the MOABL, but I ordered the 24 LED stingerz and wired them off of my 4710 enabled trunk turn/brake lights and now I have all kinds of Blink! Still get a baby-MOABL action when all 48 of them blink, then solid on braking. Thanks for the instruction and motivation.
Now I have to figure out how many more LED's I can put on it before it starts looking tacky!
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. It will be nice to see what you have done.
Ride Safe |
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Cruiser
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Memphis,Tn. | Looks GREAT Tom!!! |
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Visionary
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Memphis | Thanks Jim. You need to do this so we can follow each other around and see it in action! Rode in at 25 degrees this morning. Gate guard didn't even want to come out and check my I.D. |
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Cruiser
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Memphis,Tn. | To borrow a line from Sarah P. - I can see the "New Tower" from my shop doors. You must still be hiden off Democrat. In 25 degree weather, I'd leave the garage riding with Ben Gay and return with Arthur Rietis.
Our gaurds wear scarfs and heavy coats when it drops below 73 degrees. I'm not that cold natured (yet).
Are you going to leave your trunk on year 'round from now on??
Edited by TopFuel 2009-12-12 7:10 PM
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Visionary
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Memphis | Yep. |
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Tourer
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Spirit Lake IA "Birthplace of Victory Motorcycles" | (cue music) . . . All I want for Christmas is . . . for these Red LED 92's to come into stock! |
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Iron Butt
Posts: 742
North Orange County CA | Songfan:
Should the LED array be fused?
I noticed all the Custom Dynamic LED Kits sell with inline fuse pigtails. Now that I have successfully completed the driving lamp installation I'm ready to tackle the MOABL ! |
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Visionary
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Memphis | I'm the wrong guy to ask on that one. The kits from Custom Dynamics are all set up to be separate from the main wiring bundle. They tie straight into the battery and are switched. The 99 LED strip is such a small power draw (milliamps) that I don't even know if there is a fuse small enough to blow before the current got to the LEDs. Like I said, I don't know if it needs a fuse or not. If so, let me know and I can update the install. To tell you the truth, I hope it doesn't need one because the #1 advantage to this mod is it's simplicity. |
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Iron Butt
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North Orange County CA | Large format graphic production I know, electronics and vehicle wiring might as well be organic chemistry or Sanskrit; as evidenced by the fact that I wasn't even thinking about protecting the LEDs but was more concerned about the wiring harness and the rest of the bikes electronics. |
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Memphis | Like I've said before, I'm a P.E. major from Arizona. You're probably right about the fuse thing but I don't know how much fuse and where to put it. K-Guardsman or other tron geniuses are probably laughing at my ignorance. I've had a perfectly good Stebel Air Horn sitting in the box for six months because I am totally bumfuzzled about having to use parts off the old horn. Don't even get me going about relays...... Sorry I'm not more help. |
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Iron Butt
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North Orange County CA | Relay!!? Its a pretty simple word, and I thought I understood its meaning until I looked it up. Imagine my consternation when I discovered that "relay" in electric/tronic simply means "switch" in English!
If words actually mean something entirely different than what we expect depending on circumstance, then its not too great a leap to assume that I will never be able to accurately communicate with (for example) Canadians, Baptists, thevog.net members, Harley riders or my children.
Does this then mean that my wife is actually right when she misinterprets almost every word that comes out of my mouth? I always chalked it up to hormones.
The world just became a whole lot scarier.
Help Mr. Wizard! |
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Visionary
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LaPorte,Tx. | t99, back away from the relay, take a deep breath, now doesn't that feel better...a little oxygen to the cells, you must be BENT over the relay too far. If you can, ride the Vision...right now, this will clear everything up and you will again be right with the world around you. 
Relay...automated switch... 
Edited by VisionTex 2010-01-05 5:24 PM
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Tourer
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Dallas, Texas | SF--I am far from electrical or mechanically inclined, but how difficult would it be to have two halfs, that both light when braking, and then run or flash when the left/right signals are used? Just curious. |
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Iron Butt
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North Orange County CA | VisionTex - 2010-01-05 3:22 PM
t99, back away from the relay, take a deep breath, now doesn't that feel better...a little oxygen to the cells, you must be BENT over the relay too far. If you can, ride the Vision...right now, this will clear everything up and you will again be right with the world around you.
Relay...automated switch...
VT: You were right; it worked! |
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Visionary
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Memphis | iluvink, You would need to do the Kuryakyn 4710 mod because the Stingerz are single filament. It would be the same as turning your trunk lights into run/brake/turn signals. Even if you took two strips and just made them brake/turn signals, how would the LEDs know what to do when you hit the brakes and a turn signal at the same time? You can have any one of the three options without a controller but 2 or more would need a controller. |
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Cruiser
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West Knoxville TN | SongFan what a great mod. I am adding this to my list as well. First I have to get my forks powdercoated, my deflectors changed out, the 4710 mod done and then this. |
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Puddle Jumper
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Billings, Montana | Thanks for the install instructions. My buddy gave me a 24 light string that I stared at for quite a while wondering what I was going to do with it. Once I saw this idea I didn't wonder any more. Maybe not quite as much llight at the 99 string but I'm sure it's going to help. |
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Tourer
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| Just finnished this mod. on my Black Beauty.....she looks great! It's as easy as you say. Thanks for the Installation Directions, SongFan. |
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Visionary
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Memphis | Glad to see you guys going for it! It would be amazing on any vehicle but on a motorcycle it is frickin spectacular. You know the people behind you are staring at you anyway so that has to blow their minds when it hits. Blue Ice, I just looked at the photos at the beginning of the thread and counted out 24 leds to see how wide that is. It's wider that the word VICTORY on the chrome piece. Even that 24 LED mod will make a tremendous difference to anyone behind you. Best free mod you will ever make. |
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Central Wisconsin | SongFan - 2009-11-26 6:47 PM
Here is my MOABL - Mother of all Brake Lights
Hi Tom,
Just wanted to thank you for the '99 LED Brake Light mod info.
It turned out GREAT on my bike and was able to hook it up to my Kuryakyn 4710.
Well I got my 1st post out of the way. LOL!
Thomas
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Iron Butt
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North Orange County CA | http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Victory-Vision-LED-Third-Brake-Light...
ycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5642645074#ht_2223wt_941
Wow! Not only $30 higher than Custom Dynamics. They didn't even bother to use their own photos!
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Visionary
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Ruskin, Fl | What is the "strobe kit" they are talking about? |
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Cruiser
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Midlothian, Va. | Tarpits99 - 2011-02-03 2:03 AM http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Victory-Vision-LED-Third-Brake-Light... Wow! Not only $30 higher than Custom Dynamics. They didn't even bother to use their own photos! I hope folks are smart enough to buy from CD and not this douche. I also have the 99 special and thanks again to Song FAN.
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Iron Butt
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North Orange County CA | CW1115: Funny they mention a "strobe" in the listing title but it is not included; you can buy that at" additional cost".
Upon further consideration, it occurs to me that they probably just "copied and pasted" the installation instructions from SongFan's tech posting on this site as well.
Why should they bother with a modicum of intellectual honesty, when it looks like they've already "appropriated" not only the idea for the product, but photos of the man's motorcycle.
Biscuit: "douche" may be too weak a description.
I plan on letting them know what I think, unless SongFan tells us otherwise.
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