Hey Tim,

Itchin to pull the trigger on the amber 92s and get the reds later.  How's the fit?

You and me both. 

I called my wrench to pick up my bike on Saturday (new Barnett Scoripion Clutch) and he wanted to keep it over the weekend and follow up with Barnett on Monday.  Being such, I still do not have my Vision back yet.  I should get it back tomorrow if the meeting with Barnett pans out OK.

Sincerely,

Tim

Hi Tom,

I just got the bike home from the wrench.  I just installed a new  7-JuRock Vision windshield for the winter.  My old stock one is scratched up so I will try to polish it out by time spring comes.  The new one is 1.5-2" taller and 4 inches wider at the top.  It does not appear to have any distortions around the edges while driving in the dark.  The wider top will be good for the colder winter months and for the Mrs. on the back.  I have to use it in the daytime to see how it is in the sun.

As for the amber 92 LED bulbs.  The easily fit in the front turn signals.  The trick to get them to fit is to get the harness lower than the lens, start feeding the font edge of the bulb into the lens hole and then lift the back of the harness while inserting.  There is not enough clearance to put them straight in or top down, but there is by tilting bottom up.

The center bulbs fit as well for me since I have removed the speaker shrouds.  I used the same tilt up method of insertion.  If you have the speaker shrouds in, you may have to pull part of the lens to make enough clearance to fit the front running lights in.

As for brightness.  The 92LED bulbs have really tiny LEDs in them, thus their balls of light are smaller than the stock bulbs. They cast a more yellow light than stock which are more amber.  The stock bulbs tend to make wider lines of light in the reflector creases where the 92 LED bulbs make a bunch of narrower lines and dots depending on the viewing angle.  As far as brightness is concerned, I would give the edge to the stock bulbs over these amber 92 LED bulbs, but not by much.  I am going to keep them to regain some of the drain on the charging system.

They make the turn indicator blink twice as fast, which I don't mind.  Funny thing, if you put the turn signal on when the key is in the ACC position, the turn signals flash at their normal speed.  If you have the key in the running position, they flash twice as fast, go figure ???

The stock incandescent bulbs appear to have a little more separation between low and high, but not much.  Again, I think I am going to keep them for the charging system savings.  If I want to make a more dramatic difference on the turn signals, I can rewire my bike's signals to switch from DIM/BRIGHT to OFF/BRIGHT.  This is what I am doing in the tour pack.

These are my initial observations.  I will post more when I have some more time to work on it.  I will also measure the amperage draw of each of the bulbs compared to the stock bulbs to validate the publish specs and amperage draw savings.

HTH,

Tim

Thanks for the update Tim. 

I'm glad they fit ok.  I had a feeling about the install from below the opening.  I'll probably make the switch to save the amps and the longlife of LEDs in general.  I notice an obvious difference between how quickly my new 99 LED brake light comes on compared to the stock bulbs in the "V" taillight.  I'll probably hold off until after the the holiday crunch to make the switch, especially since the reds are taking forever to come in. 

I've thought long and hard about the flash rate and will probably go with a load equalizer.  Even though I give up the amp savings, it will only be when the turn signals are on.  99% of the time I'll still save amps.  Even though the faster flash rate may be more eye catching, it just makes me think something's not right.  It bugs me when I see a car or motorcycle going down the road with fast blinker.  I think "I'm glad I'm not on the other end of that guy with a burned out turn signal."  I really like the stock flash rate on the new cars equipped with LEDs.  I think your plan to change from DIM/BRIGHT to OFF/BRIGHT is definitely the way to go with max contrast.  I'll be picking your brain on how to do that later.

Man314,

I see you are from Spirit Lake, IA.  Can you do us all favor and drive over to the Victory Plant and ask them to make a BRIGHT OEM Strop/Turn/Hazard/Running Light LED Trunk Lens replacement kit tfor the Vision hat is illuminated the entire width of the replacement lens?  It is really hard to get in contact with anyone over there.

I see the 2010 Cross Roads and Croos Country are now using LEDs versus incondescent bulbs.  They should make a retro-fit kit for the Vision.

I have not pulled the back apart yet to see if they fit and I do not have the red 92 bulbs yet either.

Sincerely,

Tim

I haven't bought any 92's yet.  I'm going to wait until they are all in so I can do it all at once.  Most likely after the holiday madness subsides. 

I've bought some nice stuff off of a couple of guys on the forum over the last couple of weeks.  Also have the Clearwaters on my short term radar.  Two years of living with a fairly stock looking bike and now I'm making up for lost time.

KG,

Thanks for the advice on just flipping the bulbs.  I was wondering how Tim was going to re-wire the turn signals to go OFF/HIGH instead of LOW/HIGH.  All of the high end cars/suv's that have LED's are much more noticable with the OFF/HIGH turn signals. 

When I put the 92LEDs in backwards, they do not work at all.  I believe LEDs are polar by nature.  If you reverse the leads, they don't light up.  This has been the experience I have had will all of my other LED bulbs, strips and individual LEDs that I have played with so far.

Sincerely,

Tim

Man314 - 2010-01-28 5:58 PM Good news! Although the 92's are almost twice as tall as the 3157's in the tail lamp, they do have plenty of clearance. I'll try to get them in tomorrow to see how much brighter thay are.

Try them in just 1 side so you can do an A/B comparison to the stock incandescent and let us know how they work.

When I did the amber fronts, they made the lens a tad bit whiter (less amber) and were not quite as bright as stock.

Glad to see you finally got them.  Also, tell us how much of a pain it is to replace the rear bulbs.  I have yet to try that yet.

Tim

Man314 - 2010-02-07 8:17 PM My Amber and Red 92 LED's came in. .

Can you post the before/after A/B pictures of the rear tail-light lens?  Are the red 92-LEDs brighter than the stock incandescent bulbs in the rear tail light?

Thanks,

Tim