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Brighton, TN | I wonder why a bicyclist doesn't have leather and full gear on all the time. Normally its a smaller lightweight helmet, vented I might add, and very tight speedos. I have yet to see a Tour de France competitor wearing heavy leather or even a blowing rainsuit. Those cats ride at speeds that will challenge most bikers. And only a few feet from each other, if that far. I'm thinking about trying their gear out. It's gotta be cooler.
I like to wear a full face, when its raining, or when cold. But if its just raining, there is not enough fresh air coming through and I get tired in a hurry, sleeeeeepppyyyy! So, eventually, the half helmet comes back out, just to get fresh air and be alert again. Has something to do with the risk.
Wore some Daisy Dukes once on the vision. OOOOWWWWWWWW!!!! Man the heat on the right side, ready to cook dinner with.
It is odd, the wife rides with me and will wear, the minimum. Pants, boots, t-shirt, half helmet, and gloves. Rides by herself and out comes the mesh jacket and the full face.
Yet, when I motocross, I pretty much wear the same. I would think I had more to add to this. But, I don't, it is much like an oil thread and I might as well be walking around naked and scratching, compared to trying to figure out what else I could say that would make a difference. Oh, maybe if I added in some Buckeye, SoaringEaglecjnoho, longdistancesorebuttVaRyder, or my other personal favorite, DesertSandintheCrevicesJim, then maybe we could actually solve all of these problems. Start mandating lack of clothing, smoking, riding and some camels thrown in just for good measure. All in all, a party around the campfire, which is where we should be when we are done riding. Some nice hotties thrown in for good times, etc. I think I'm just goonna put my full face on and sit in my recliner, just in case the roof falls or the ceiling fan blade comes a loose, it keeps shaking. |
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Scottsdale AZ | pollolittle - 2009-07-21 6:09 AM
I wonder why a bicyclist doesn't have leather and full gear on all the time. Normally its a smaller lightweight helmet, vented I might add, and very tight speedos. I have yet to see a Tour de France competitor wearing heavy leather or even a blowing rainsuit. Those cats ride at speeds that will challenge most bikers. And only a few feet from each other, if that far. I'm thinking about trying their gear out. It's gotta be cooler.
I like to wear a full face, when its raining, or when cold. But if its just raining, there is not enough fresh air coming through and I get tired in a hurry, sleeeeeepppyyyy! So, eventually, the half helmet comes back out, just to get fresh air and be alert again. Has something to do with the risk.
Wore some Daisy Dukes once on the vision. OOOOWWWWWWWW!!!! Man the heat on the right side, ready to cook dinner with.
It is odd, the wife rides with me and will wear, the minimum. Pants, boots, t-shirt, half helmet, and gloves. Rides by herself and out comes the mesh jacket and the full face.
Yet, when I motocross, I pretty much wear the same. I would think I had more to add to this. But, I don't, it is much like an oil thread and I might as well be walking around naked and scratching, compared to trying to figure out what else I could say that would make a difference. Oh, maybe if I added in some Buckeye, SoaringEaglecjnoho, longdistancesorebuttVaRyder, or my other personal favorite, DesertSandintheCrevicesJim, then maybe we could actually solve all of these problems. Start mandating lack of clothing, smoking, riding and some camels thrown in just for good measure. All in all, a party around the campfire, which is where we should be when we are done riding. Some nice hotties thrown in for good times, etc. I think I'm just goonna put my full face on and sit in my recliner, just in case the roof falls or the ceiling fan blade comes a loose, it keeps shaking.
Wore some Daisy Dukes he says??? Thats funny LOL!
This mood of the TennChikin comes right out of the "Deliverence " movie. Talkin about naked, scratchin and oil. Maybe Deliverence was filmed in Tenn around where Poot lives. Sittin around the campfire, dreaming of the bicycle guys in tight pants, ( had nothing to do with protection). Woops, he did talk about hotties for good times.
Keep that full face on Pootscootin before one of us Visionaries sends a posse out for you. |
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| I never really understood these clothing threads. As a member of multiple MC sites, this is a topic which always a constant. MC attire is like religion to me. People try to change other peoples way of thinking without much success. I never really paid to much attention to what other people wear but I have noticed a lot of MC riders do. I figure if you are smart enough to pass a MC exam, then you should be more than capable in figuring out what will happen when and if you go down. I may notice a new style helmet or new jacket because I like to know what will keep me warmer/cooler and even safer. I dont require folks to ride a vespa if you wear shorts and sandals. I wont make fun of you nor will I preach at you. I can decide if I want to ride with you or not and my decision will not be based on what you wear or dont wear but it wll depend on how you ride and if we get along. If you go down wearing shorts and sandals, I will come visit you in the hospital and do what I can to make things better for you as a friend and fellow MC rider. I normally leave the fashion discussions to someone else but this thread just happen to strike me as another example of fashion critique seen on every other site. I guess I just dont understand. Everyone ride safe and have a great day. |
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| I've been on a mountain bike and been taken down by an inattentive driver (young girl, daddy's pickup, on a cell phone). This was on a quiet residential street, I'm moving along at less than 20mph and she just passes me when she makes the right hand turn. I go over the back of her truck and hit the pavement- it's 110 degrees but the asphalt isn't any softer. I was in a t-shirt and regular cargo shorts. the road rash covered most of my back, the bruising covered most of my hip and leg... I learned a bit about protective gear..! |
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| pollolittle - 2009-07-21 7:09 AM
I wonder why a bicyclist doesn't have leather and full gear on all the time. Normally its a smaller lightweight helmet, vented I might add, and very tight speedos. I have yet to see a Tour de France competitor wearing heavy leather or even a blowing rainsuit. Those cats ride at speeds that will challenge most bikers. And only a few feet from each other, if that far. I'm thinking about trying their gear out. It's gotta be cooler.
I like to wear a full face, when its raining, or when cold. But if its just raining, there is not enough fresh air coming through and I get tired in a hurry, sleeeeeepppyyyy! So, eventually, the half helmet comes back out, just to get fresh air and be alert again. Has something to do with the risk.
Wore some Daisy Dukes once on the vision. OOOOWWWWWWWW!!!! Man the heat on the right side, ready to cook dinner with.
It is odd, the wife rides with me and will wear, the minimum. Pants, boots, t-shirt, half helmet, and gloves. Rides by herself and out comes the mesh jacket and the full face.
Yet, when I motocross, I pretty much wear the same. I would think I had more to add to this. But, I don't, it is much like an oil thread and I might as well be walking around naked and scratching, compared to trying to figure out what else I could say that would make a difference. Oh, maybe if I added in some Buckeye, SoaringEaglecjnoho, longdistancesorebuttVaRyder, or my other personal favorite, DesertSandintheCrevicesJim, then maybe we could actually solve all of these problems. Start mandating lack of clothing, smoking, riding and some camels thrown in just for good measure. All in all, a party around the campfire, which is where we should be when we are done riding. Some nice hotties thrown in for good times, etc. I think I'm just goonna put my full face on and sit in my recliner, just in case the roof falls or the ceiling fan blade comes a loose, it keeps shaking.
Ok, you convinced me, the sky might not actually be falling after all.
I'm getting one of those nice little Scorpion half helmets, or better yet, some tupperware. Going to throw away the armored gear, and buy a years supply of wife-beaters next.
This old brain isn't really worth protecting anymore anyways, and a real man doesn't fret over some silly little road rash.
If I were a really good rider, like you, an accident would be about as likely as the ceiling falling on me in my recliner. So, I intend from now on to direct my energies toward becoming a better rider instead of sissy protection.
Thank you for the inspiration!
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Richmond, Virginia | I loves me some daisy dukes and a halter top on a motorcycle now, for the women, one o dem tubular tops and some o dem double crack jean shorties sure takes my breath away gosh darn it.......... that look and smell of blistering bacon all cooked up with some
road dirt and pea gravel... now thats just dang hot !! |
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New Bohemia, VA | Religion, politics, oil, gear,...sigh.
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Linwood, MI | Moose - 2009-07-21 11:07 AM
I never really understood these clothing threads. As a member of multiple MC sites, this is a topic which always a constant. MC attire is like religion to me. People try to change other peoples way of thinking without much success. I never really paid to much attention to what other people wear but I have noticed a lot of MC riders do. I figure if you are smart enough to pass a MC exam, then you should be more than capable in figuring out what will happen when and if you go down. I may notice a new style helmet or new jacket because I like to know what will keep me warmer/cooler and even safer. I dont require folks to ride a vespa if you wear shorts and sandals. I wont make fun of you nor will I preach at you. I can decide if I want to ride with you or not and my decision will not be based on what you wear or dont wear but it wll depend on how you ride and if we get along. If you go down wearing shorts and sandals, I will come visit you in the hospital and do what I can to make things better for you as a friend and fellow MC rider. I normally leave the fashion discussions to someone else but this thread just happen to strike me as another example of fashion critique seen on every other site. I guess I just dont understand. Everyone ride safe and have a great day.
Brilliant first post, Moose.
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Western WA | varyder - 2009-07-21 1:57 PM
Religion, politics, oil, gear,...sigh.
Isn't any one ridin'?
I was thinking the same thing V.
Don't we usually get into these discussions in the winter when everyone has cabin fever?
And Moose. . . . quit being all rational and reasonable. That's just crazy talk right there.  |
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| Just finished my ride in jeans, tshirt, and boots in 108 degrees through the Las Vegas spaghetti bowl. Couldn't do it in full gear nohow noway. Got to admit, tho, I sure feel a sight safer in the leather. |
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| Rebel - 2009-07-21 5:03 PM
Moose - 2009-07-21 11:07 AM
I never really understood these clothing threads. As a member of multiple MC sites, this is a topic which always a constant. MC attire is like religion to me. People try to change other peoples way of thinking without much success. I never really paid to much attention to what other people wear but I have noticed a lot of MC riders do. I figure if you are smart enough to pass a MC exam, then you should be more than capable in figuring out what will happen when and if you go down. I may notice a new style helmet or new jacket because I like to know what will keep me warmer/cooler and even safer. I dont require folks to ride a vespa if you wear shorts and sandals. I wont make fun of you nor will I preach at you. I can decide if I want to ride with you or not and my decision will not be based on what you wear or dont wear but it wll depend on how you ride and if we get along. If you go down wearing shorts and sandals, I will come visit you in the hospital and do what I can to make things better for you as a friend and fellow MC rider. I normally leave the fashion discussions to someone else but this thread just happen to strike me as another example of fashion critique seen on every other site. I guess I just dont understand. Everyone ride safe and have a great day.
Brilliant first post, Moose.
Thanks
I'll be...i coulda swore I hade posted here before. Didnt mean to start off negative. I wear jeans, boots and a helmet...no shirt though. I will try and do better next time...lol!! I recognise a lot of names here from the other vic sites. Guess I felt right at home. |
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Linwood, MI | Dimonback - 2009-07-21 5:46 PM
Just finished my ride in jeans, tshirt, and boots in 108 degrees through the Las Vegas spaghetti bowl. Couldn't do it in full gear nohow noway. Got to admit, tho, I sure feel a sight safer in the leather.
I read an article in a magazine about a year or two ago about a guy who does some sort of testing for a company--motorcycles, helmets, clothing... not sure which but for some reason I'm thinking it was for HD. Anyway, he was doing some serious testing in Death Valley and a large part of the article covered what he wore in the desert and why. I can't remember all the details about it, but I can tell you that he was done up like someone riding through North Dakota in late Fall. He had a full-face helmet, boots, gloves, a couple of layers of shirts and a mesh jacket. To me it seemed very counterintuitive, but he explained how all of it helped protect from the extreme heat. Since he does it for a living I'm guessing he knows what he's talking about, but I'm just glad I don't ride in the desert.  |
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So Cal | My wife is the only one that has seen my legs in a LOOONG time. She finally stopped laughing last week. Long sleeve T-shirt keeps the sun from burning your skin off. It may FEEL cool while your moving but the sun is still baking. Short rides, short sleeves are okay, all day rides I like to keep the sun off as much as possible. My skin aint gettin any younger. |
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Mount Vernon, WA United States | Covering up is really not so much for protection from the sun per se as it is protecting from evaporating too much sweat. It's a little different walking or sitting, but on a bike in the heat, dehydration can happen supper fast cause the moisture is being blown off you as fast as it comes out. Just look at how the folks dress that live in the desert. Covered in heavy cloth from head to tow. It's not a fashion statement, it's survival 101. My leathers have a wicking liner. The Leather keeps the sun off, the wicking keeps the moisture off of me for comfort, but doesn't let it just evaporate either. It's kinda trapped. I regulate the cooling effect by opening the vents. I have experienced being in 100 degree temps and feeling cold. That's not good. That's called dehydration, and it's not a matter of "hmm I better do something" it's a matter of your about to pass out even though you'll likely feel just fine. At least I felt fine, other than being a little chilly... just before it all went black. Texas, 1979. Granted this is extreme, I was out for hours, I didn't have water with me, and based on my activities back then, I was likely dehydrated a little before I even went out.
Bottom line... drink lots of water, stay hydrated, be aware, and if it's too hot...and your not comfortable... do something else.
I'm planning on riding to the AVR, and I'll like do most of it in the morning and evening. In mid day, I'll be in a nice air conditioned hotel room. |
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| Breaker - 2009-07-21 5:09 PM
varyder - 2009-07-21 1:57 PM
Religion, politics, oil, gear,...sigh.
Isn't any one ridin'?
I was thinking the same thing V.
Don't we usually get into these discussions in the winter when everyone has cabin fever?
And Moose. . . . quit being all rational and reasonable. That's just crazy talk right there.
Rational and reasonable are not 2 things often assiociated whih my name. Neither one of them are 4-letter words...  (usually used by the spouse but has been known to spread to close relatives and friends). Crazy has been used a few times. Ride safe!! |
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Dallas, Texas | I have ridden with nothing but a smile and sunglasses on in the past, but that's another story. Shorts are out on the Vision for me. Too much heat, too close to my legs. ATGATT is definitely not for me, somewhere in between. No helmet, except when it is cold. |
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| i tend to be atgatt. i stepped down to a shortie a couple of years ago but sitll wear leather, often incuding chaps, up to about 92 degrees. female unit and daughter do the same. then i go to a shirt with jeans and boots. high boots all the time. i walk funny from falling off at 70 mph when a tire blew. foot took a real beating. no boots would have ben really bad. having said that imho wearing shorts and flip flops is going to make the inevitable small issue into a bigger one. that's your call but as one LAWYER who writes for the local biker rags put it your passenger is going to sue you for every little scratch and the more scratches the more money you WILL pay out. if you take my daughter for a ride and let her wear less than boots, jeans, gloves and a helmet i am going to make sure she has the best damned lawyer this white rich guy can afford when it comes time to go to court. it's not just your skin but your financial well being you are putting at risk. 'nuff said. |
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Goldsboro, NC | exharleyrider - 2009-07-23 6:18 PM
if you take my daughter for a ride and let her wear less than boots, jeans, gloves and a helmet i am going to make sure she has the best damned lawyer...
No mention of a top?!?
I guess there are some things you Harley guys don't give up.
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| hey that's my daughter you're talking about. but you're right. now your daughter maybe not. |
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Goldsboro, NC | exharleyrider - 2009-07-23 6:43 PM
hey that's my daughter you're talking about.
Sorry... could not resist.
but you're right. now your daughter maybe not.
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Newberry, Mi. | IMO, it's entirely up to the individual. If one feels more comfortable wearing a helmet and riding gear then that's what they should do. If one is in a state where there is no helmet law and they don't like to wear one. That's their choice.
Truth is, more than 90% of all fatalities in and automobiles are due to head injuries. Try and get that helmet law passed!
When I'm in a stste without helmet laws I don't wear one and neither does my wife. We are both adults and have made our own decision on this. If I have one of our kids or the occasional passenger, I give them a helmet.
I always wear long pants, a shirt, and appropriate foot wear due to road debris and bees/bugs. About 25 years ago I was on a back highway in Arkansas doing about 90 without a shirt, and took a bumble bee on/in the breastbone of my chest. Half of the bee was still embedded when I pulled over and I still have a small scar.
Two weeks later a friend and I were again, doing about 90 around a long curve, unfortunately I knew the curve well and he didn't. He was on the inside going about 100 and slid out right next to me crashing into me. Fortunately, we both went into a grassy ditch sustaining only a few cuts and bruises. Neither of us were wearing a helmet but we were lucky and didn't encounter an immovable object during our "slide". We both rode our slightly damaged bikes back to Ft. Hood.
Since those young and inexperienced days tempered by an accident that left me only two scars, I've become a far more alert and aware rider. Every side street and every car on the side of the road or on the road alerts me to prepare for the worst case scenario. I plan on them doing the worst thing and mentally prepare for evasive action. Every new bike I get, I methodically practice emergency stopping at all speeds as well as emergency maneuvers, and on different surfaces. I start slow and easy working my way up to the more intense levels. I need to know what the bike can and cannot due under different conditions. Every bike respond differently. IMO, emergency stopping and turning is critical in avoiding the unexpected.
Sorry to get long winded or a little off track.
Ride safe and keep the rubber side down.
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New Bohemia, VA | thanks Rob41 I can side with your observations and agree that practice and awareness is the best deterant for a bad encounter. |
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scotts valley, California | I wore my swimming trunks on a vision ride to the pool. There is a burn scar on the inside of my right calf to prove it. |
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