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| Dude really? Besides the Street Glide the Road Glide is there hottest model. You ever pick up a costum magizne? That's about all they use for a base is the Road Glide. |
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Rancho Cucamonga, CA | I never said the RG wasn't popular. I said you don't see them on the showroom floors. The customers that buy these types of bikes know what they want long before they walk into a dealer. Showrooms are for those that don't know what they want yet. Thus you tend to see the flashier, trendier bikes there.
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Visionary
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New Bohemia, VA | Too many people are afraid of the Vision, I believe. I even believe some Vision owners are afraid as well. Sadly, it has to do with perception. I could drag on why, but it will serve no good purpose, but that is the bottom line. Personally, I feel the Vision is the best bike ever built because in the end, it is for the rider, and it cannot be duplicated. It is one bike that the engineers took a chance on and got it right the first time. There cannot be another bike built to replicate everything the Vision gives, except another Vision. While many will whine over fit and finish, and creature comforts, like radios, gawky fins, and huge bags that suck away the ride, the ride is what I want at the end of the day, and the beginning of the next. The ride is impeccable.
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Visionary
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Central Maryland | The ride is reminiscent of an old style Cadillac... to me. The Vision is my Cadillac. No wait... my Bentley.... |
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Iron Butt
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New Bohemia, VA | willtill - 2013-05-11 7:39 AM The ride is reminiscent of an old style Cadillac... to me. The Vision is my Cadillac. No wait... my Bentley.... No, my Bentley!!! |
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | The Vision is actually a success if you compare it to other "Full Body" bikes that have been marketed over the years. Henderson tried it in the 1930's it was a complete failure, Vincent tried it with the Black Prince: another no go, and mighty Honda tried with the Pacific Coast back in the late 80's. Honda pulled the plug on that after maybe three years. So the fact that Victory has sold maybe 5000 in 6 model years is a success in it's own right. Will that save it and make 10 model years I don't know, but it is the most comfortable bike ever made.
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Visionary
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New Bohemia, VA | Despite the cool look, that bike is small. |
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | varyder - 2013-05-11 1:30 PM
Despite the cool look, that bike is small.
You're right. I think they were all pretty small in 1930. Bikes are just bigger and better than ever right now..................Folks that say the old days were better haven't ridden a 1973 Electa Glide or first generation 1000cc Goldwing lately.............
Oh and by the way, like you, I can't wait to see the new Chief. The engine is beautiful, hope the bike is too...
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Phenix City AL. | I dont like popular things, who the hell would want to steal my vision and it is eay to find in a sea of other bikes. lol, I like it and thats all that matters. |
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Iron Butt
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Peru, IN | I WAS whining about the fit/finish, Chris, but that doesn't mean I don't think the Vision isn't the best bike out there and that doesn't mean I'd trade mine for anything else. I've tried to get every rider I know to test ride a Vision just once even if they don't plan on buying one. Most of the comments I get afterwards are all about the awesome handling, comfort, air management and power but they still say they just can't get over the looks and/or they still want something more traditional. I can understand all that. Personally, I don't care what others think about my possessions. I drive a generic Blazer and a bike that admittedly has some funky styling.
The reason the Vision isn't the best selling bike in the world is due to styling alone. There just isn't anything else that can be beat. |
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New Bohemia, VA | I know MM, and you do ride one, you fall to the exception like myself. I could stand all day and point out every flaw...with anything. There has only been one off the showroom car that has impressed me and that was the early lexus. My wife's boss bought one for his wife when they first came out. It was truly a marvel in 1988. I tried to find a flaw in the fit of the body work because him being a paint and body man, he couldn't find one. Neither could I, very impressive. Having worked for a Chevrolet dealership in high school, I got to sit in many of corvettes. Most of them couldn't even go to the showroom off the truck because of the body flaws. It was something to see brand new corvettes marked up circling the flaws that had to be corrected and repainted. One of the Vette's had over 70 of them, and none were transport flaws. I think we see what we want to see. Like the saying goes, "if you didn't know it was there, you wouldn't see it" |
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New York State | My Vision like its owner is flawless. |
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Davenport, IA | Yea, for those talking about the HD Road Glide, I also heard it was being discontinued and being replaced by a water cooled version. Will be called the "Water Glide", then renamed or nicknamed "Water Leak" after the customer spends numerous visits to service department for repairs. Just say'in....  |
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| IMHO I'm not looking or wanting to be popular. Who wants to be like everyone else? oh yeah.....hd riders haha... |
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seattle, wa | kmt27 - 2013-05-11 6:28 PM
Yea, for those talking about the HD Road Glide, I also heard it was being discontinued and being replaced by a water cooled version. Will be called the "Water Glide", then renamed or nicknamed "Water Leak" after the customer spends numerous visits to service department for repairs. Just say'in....
AKA "The Drip"
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Puddle Jumper
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Pillager, MN | New and improved RoadGlide (and this one doesn't leak a thing!)
http://imageshack.us/a/img812/2077/p10002801280x960.jpg
Actually, my Valkyrie Tourer with RoadGlide fairing mounted to it. Soon to be replaced with a Vision...
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Peru, IN | I tried to put a Tour Glide (predecessor to the Road Glide) fairing on my old Nomad. I didn't have the skills to make it work but I had it mocked up once. Lots of potential.
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | I wouldn't make too much fun of a watercooled RoadGlide, if it's made it'll be able to handle 11:1 compression and be a nice powerful engine. before I bought my second Vision I had a RoadGlide for 9 years and put 57,000 miles on it. Never leaked a drop of oil. Still won't be as modern as our SOHC engines. Harley just seems to be stuck to PushRod engines, something about their look I guess............ |
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seattle, wa | Monkeyman, that looked good.
I'm sure HD will put out a water pumper of some kind soon enough, it will look good and be successful.
They don't fail at too many things with all the research and development they do.
HD has always tested the waters for awhile before they get in too deep, the V-Rod might not be a big money maker for them but it is proving the engine to be reliable and powerful. All that info saved for future use. |
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | rwilly - 2013-05-12 4:44 PM
Monkeyman, that looked good.
I'm sure HD will put out a water pumper of some kind soon enough, it will look good and be successful.
They don't fail at too many things with all the research and development they do.
HD has always tested the waters for awhile before they get in too deep, the V-Rod might not be a big money maker for them but it is proving the engine to be reliable and powerful. All that info saved for future use.
All correct............. |
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Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | Y'all DO know the "V-ROD" engine is German ??? And how did discussion of Harley crap get into this thread? I thought we were talking about "BENTLEYS" ???
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Iron Butt
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Mt. Vernon, WASH. | Years ago I had a boss who said he wanted to own an airplane that didn't say 'I'm here' he wanted one that said 'DAMN IT, I'VE ARRIVED!!' I love not seeing myself coming down the road 150 times in a mile astride a 'ME TOO' plus it's easy to find in the parking lot, it's the only one with a crowd around it. |
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| XRsteve - 2013-05-10 8:51 PM
The Cross bikes are for those who want a more traditional style, but they give up a little (CCT) or a lot (CR) to get it.
That's definitely a matter of opinion. I didn't give up anything when I got my CR. It was the perfect bike for me since I don't care for a bike with a fairing and like being able to take off my windshield within a few minutes and ride naked. I've never liked the styling of the Vision so it wasn't even a consideration when I was looking for a new bike. If the Vision 8 Ball is ever offered again I might consider it though.
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Clinton, CT | It has been an interesting couple of weeks- Last month (April) ended with a bang and a new Vision.
I took delivery of my Vision April 30th; I financed it with GE and took note of the fine print on "The Victory Guarantee" program. I will admit that I have wrestled with this decision- not buyer's remorse per se but unsettled nonetheless. It had nothing to do with the ride, it is the styling, the questions in my mind about support after the sale (mainly lack of mechanics) and supportability with accessories (upgrading the radio?).
I started looking at touring rigs and planned to buy a new Electra Glide Ultra, but then I rode one. Looked at the Road Glide Ultra, just didn't do it for me...
Looked at the XCT and liked it, but they had a Vision sitting there... The more I stared at it, the more I was intrigued. I will be the 1st to admit that when the Vision 1st came out, I said out loud "no damn way" when I saw one in person. Mind you, I was riding an EGlide Ultra at the time.
I can understand why it is not a block-buster seller- it has polarizing style and is unique. For all of the "individuals" out there that want to "do their own thing" they follow the herd. I say that, being one myself until this bike.
The Vision is not "mainstream" popular but I am thankful for that. My original dislike for the styling changed to curiosity, then to respect, to infatuation and now has evolved to lust!
Today I took my 12 year old daughter for a ride. She used to ride with me (as did all of my girls) and was VERY excited that we have a touring bike again to go with my Concours. As we rode through the back roads of New England, a car in front of us realized they were about to miss their turn. They nearly locked up their brakes in the middle of the road to make a left. I grabbed the brakes hard but too late- hard press on the right grip to swerve around them. Bike dove around the car with zero fuss and was completely planted. I'm not sure I could have made the same maneuver safely on my Concours; on a Harley I would still be on the phone with insurance assuming I wasn't in a hospital. My daughter never flinched...
I can tell you that any doubts I had about my Vision were put to rest today- Its a keeper. I'm at 470 miles on the ticker and since I am on leave this week, I am looking forward to a half-dozen coats of Zaino, pulling the trunk off since the cover came in and an oil change the end of the week. The wife and I need to take a ride up to Hartford to Hoters for lunch so I guess I'll pass on the "Victory Guarantee" program! The best part is I don't need to buy a bunch of new leather, bandannas, matching riding suits, patches, Power-Ranger suits or any other stuff to fit into some pack. Anyone who rides with me can just be whoever they are, as long as they can keep up!
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