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Sand Rock, AL United States | rdbudd - 2012-11-19 4:51 PM
kris1956 - 2012-11-19 5:03 PM
Arkainzeye - 2012-11-19 4:21 PM does it still have a 5 speed? ?Still a 5 speed.
Still the same bike that was released in 2001, but with a tupperware change in 2012. And a loss of the trunk, centerstand and a few other things for 2013.
I quizzed my Goldwing riding buddies about the "new" F6B and they are not happy. They are still waiting for the long rumored 2000+cc six speed bike with the 150 HP motor and power windshield that gets 50 MPG. They were expecting it this year ( and last year, and the year before that). They were so very sure that with the move back to Japanese production that an all new Goldwing was just around the corner. They sure weren't expecting a sliced and diced old Goldwing as the "new" offering.
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| I like the F6B just fine, and at the same price, I wouldn't mind having one at all. I've removed my Vision trunk and like it better that way so no real issue there. But, footPEGS, bogus passenger pegs, no electric windshield, no heated seat and no self-canceling turn-signals? I'll stay with the Vision. And besides, the heart of the machine -- the motor, is a work of art.  |
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New Bohemia, VA | IndyVision - 2012-11-19 7:27 PM If I was interested in a honda, I'd go to a honda discussion website, not a Victory. I agree, what do you expect us to say on a Victory website about a Honda. While comments are gently put, try reading about a Victory on a Harley, or Wing site. The notion to put a poll on a Victory site about a Honda is laughable at best... |
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Jasper, MO | varyder - 2012-11-20 7:38 AM
IndyVision - 2012-11-19 7:27 PM If I was interested in a honda, I'd go to a honda discussion website, not a Victory. I agree, what do you expect us to say on a Victory website about a Honda.? While comments are gently put, try reading about a Victory on a Harley, or Wing site.? The notion to put a poll on a Victory site about a Honda is laughable at best...
That's true. See for yourselves what the Goldwing riders themselves think of it. They seem to be more interested in whether Honda has fixed the transmission problems yet. http://gl1800riders.com/forums/showthread.php?334893-What-do-you-th...
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| To each their own, the poll doesn't bother me and people here are much more civil about the wing. The wing forum I read thoroughly trashed the Vision. |
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Peru, IN | Just because they don't know any better doesn't mean they're sub standard. (They just ride sub-standard bikes.) |
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| <p><font size="3" face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Honda Won't fix the Transmission because they are coming out with new dual clutch tranny with automatic option ! Wonder were Victory stands on this,</font></p><p><font size="3" face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> we already have the 6 speed</font></p> |
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Marietta, GA | I wonder what an automatic would be like on a bike? I know the Spyder has an automatic and has great performance (the looks take some getting used to - though some say the Vision takes some getting used to too.). |
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Sand Rock, AL United States | i don't want an auto bike. I love changing gears. My Gold Wing buddy has expressed that he would love an auto trans. He loves scooters too. |
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Sand Rock, AL United States | kris1956 - 2012-11-20 9:12 AM
To each their own, the poll doesn't bother me and people here are much more civil about the wing. The wing forum I read thoroughly trashed the Vision.
I'm a member of the Stratoliner forum and Victory ( mostly Visions and X bikes) comes up quite a bit there and they are largely positive about our brand.
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Bullhead City, AZ | If you like to sit like a jockey or are under 5' 9" the GW would be comfortable. I tried one before the VV and never thought that it was bad until I took a ride on the VV |
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Sand Rock, AL United States | i'm 5'7". Iwould be comfortable on a wing if I had never sat on a Vision. |
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Peru, IN | wingit3611 - 2012-11-20 12:13 PM
Honda Won't fix the Transmission because they are coming out with new dual clutch tranny with automatic option !?? Wonder were Victory stands on this
Just noticed this post. (oops) I like an slush box in my truck so I can sit back and drive from point A to point B. It's transportation only. My Vision is rarely used "just for transportation". I put more miles on 2 wheels than on 4 but it's still just a toy. I enjoy shifting the bike just like I enjoyed shifting any of my Pontiac Fieros. It adds to my enjoyment. Honda can keep the slush box (as can BRP). They need to focus a bit more on ergonomics than a fancy tranny. |
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huntington In. | An automatic makes as much sence as one in a sports car or muscle car, it is just wrong. |
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| jimtom - 2012-11-20 11:52 AM i don't want an auto bike. I love changing gears. My Gold Wing buddy has expressed that he would love an auto trans. He loves scooters too. I have a few friends that as they've aged would ride an automatic, that's their decision. One day some of us may feel that way. |
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Sand Rock, AL United States | I won't say never but I don't see me owning an auto trans bike (spyder maybe). I hope the good Lord sees me through to old age . If so, I know there will come a time when I can't hold up a bike and will have to look at trike kits or a Spyder. I test rode a spyder and it was fun, they seem to have a lot of trouble with them though and they only get about 30 mpg. I looked at the zero electric bikes in Atlanta earlier this month. they are of course automatic and I wouldn't mind having one to serve as commuter only to save on gas not for recreation though, nothing beats the Vision for that . |
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, WI | I lot of people say the F6B is not a touring bike because it doesn't have cruise, ABS and a power windshield. Next everyone will "need" an automatic transmission. |
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| loren2 - 2012-11-26 9:52 AM If you like to sit like a jockey or are under 5' 9" the GW would be comfortable. I tried one before the VV and never thought that it was bad until I took a ride on the VV Ditto - I am 6' 2" and thought I had gone to mc heaven when I sat on the VV after test riding the GW. Could not believe the difference in the floorboards vs pegs, plus a v twin has soul. Sooo glad I got my Vic. |
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Albuquerque NM | I would consider it, but I prefer to support American companies and American workers. So for me to switch to a foreign brand it would have to be a whole lot more bike for the money, and even being in my mid 30's I find the big foot boards are indispensible. So I doubt that I would switch away from my vision for a foreign bike. |
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Orlando, FL | Always one to stir the pot I have never understood people who say they want to "buy American". I first heard someone tell me that in 1980, when I pulled into the parking lot next to an associate. I was in a BMW and he was in a Caddy. He gave me a friendly sneer and made a comment about buying American made cars. To which I relied. "Really? Well, please tell me Cal, where was your Swiss watch made, and what about your Italian Loafers? And your French designed suit? And didn't you get that shirt tailored in Hong Kong?" He laughed and knew his buy American comment really did not hold water. Most people are the same. It's impossible to "Buy American" anymore.
We live in a Global society and have for the last 30 years. But today it is more evident than ever. Do you have an iPhone/iPad/iPod? MADE IN CHINA!! Duh~
And I would be willing to bet that while Victory Bikes are assembled in America, that many of their parts/components/raw materials came from another country.
Don't get me wrong, I understand the sentiment. It's just not valid anymore. We are in a Global society. We compete in a global society. And if we can build a better mousetrap, so be it. But build a better bike, no matter what the brand name or what country it is associated with and I'll buy it!
If Honda or Kawi, or Suzuki came out with a copy of the Vision I would very likely buy it. I find the engine design (water cooled), materials, and workmanship of those companies far better than the Victory or HD. Take the floppy shiter and brake pedal. Never had that in other bikes. And the Vision has had it for over 10 year. And it is such a simple fix. WTF~? There are other simple fix items that Victory has never addressed. I can only conclude that wither they don't ride (they would know and fix the deficits), or they don't care (they make a good profit, so like HD why change it?).
By the way, until the spring of 2009 Honda made 120 motorcycles a day in Dayton Ohio~
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Jasper, MO | MaddMAx2u - 2012-11-27 3:05 PM
Always one to stir the pot I have never understood people who say they want to "buy American".
By the way, until the spring of 2009 Honda made 120 motorcycles a day in Dayton Ohio~
Because manufacturing creates wealth in a nation's economy and the citizens of that nation get to share in the prosperity. When we manufactured most of our consumer goods here, we had a trade surplus and a booming middle class. Now, we don't and we don't. We've joined the "global economy" and the race to the bottom.
By the way, until the spring of 2009 Honda ASSEMBLED 120 motorcycles a day in MARYSVILLE Ohio, from parts manufactured in Japan, Korea, China, and some from the USA. They moved final assembly back to Japan so they wouldn't have to pay the ever increasing cost of shipping the parts.
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Aberdeen SD | why is this in the VISION discussion section when it should be in General section |
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| No matter how old you get if you are able to hold up a bike as heavy as a Goldwing you DO NOT NEED AN AUTOMATIC TRANS unless your arthritis is really bad. |
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| Ronnie, I'm afraid you are a little mistaken when referring to the former Honda of America motorcycle manufacturing plant in Ohio. First, it is in Marysville, Ohio, which is just northwest of Columbus, Ohio (I've been to the old Honda Homecoming a few times), second, as far as manufacturing plants go, Honda manufactured the frames for the Goldwing, VTX, and 1100 Shadows on the premises and all paint work was also performed there, the engines for those three different bikes (actually four because of the 1800 and 1300 VTXs) were manufactured and assembled from U.S. sourced castings in the Alma, Ohio engine plant, and the abs body panels for the Goldwings were also sourced from U.S. manufacturers, and third, the primary reason given by Honda for moving motorcycle production back to Japan was to insure higher quality standards (if you know, Honda had MAJOR problems with the frames of the '01-'04 GL1800 Goldwings along with other issues) and to centralize all large displacement motorcycle manufacturing under one roof to better accommodate a fast changing global market. The only parts of the '84-'10 Goldwings that came from Japan or other foreign countries were the forks, brakes, wheels, and electronics. If you pull the tire off of the stock rim on your Vision you will find "Made in China" cast into the wheel, the forks and rear shock are sourced from Showa (a company partially owned by Honda) in Japan, if you pull your brake or clutch reservoir covers you will find that they are manufactured by Nissin as well as the brake calipers and proportioning valve in the linked braking system (the front calipers are the same ones used on the '02-'03 Honda VTX1800 and on all years of the GL1800 Goldwing) the only difference is that Victory paid Nissin to cast the Victory name into the calipers. The radio on our Visions is made here in the U.S. by the same company that first was putting audio on the old Vetter fairing, Cycle Sound although I believe they changed their name, personally if it would have been me I would have sourced the audio and CB equipment from either Clarion or Mitsubishi as they have both been manufacturing the audio systems for the Honda Goldwings (Clarion for the GL1100, GL1200, and GL1500, Mitsubishi for the GL1800) since the early 1980's.
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Would You Consider the New Gold Wing F6B?
