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Rollin'
Posted 2012-05-02 9:11 PM (#113421 - in reply to #113374)
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Iron Butt

Posts: 825
, WI

BigEd - 2012-05-02 10:32 AM With all the pages to this thread, I most likely missed an answer to this question. And since I didnt see it I will ask...... Where do you guys get CT's installed? I mean I cant see a motor cycle dealer doing it without a "liability claus speach" and same from an auto tire dealer.

I went to a local tire dealer. I said - cash, no receipt and I was never here.  They mounted the tire.

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Nozzledog
Posted 2012-05-02 11:41 PM (#113442 - in reply to #75958)
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Visionary

Posts: 1229
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Take the wheel in and say it's for a trike.
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okie vision
Posted 2012-05-03 8:48 PM (#113492 - in reply to #113325)
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Iron Butt

Posts: 752
Broken Arrow, OK
jeffmack - 2012-05-01 8:13 PM

Okie, I get a Alpin on thursday too. Actually ordered 2.
Mine was on the porch tonight. Yours come too Jeff? I don't have time to get it mounted. We leave in the morning for a weekend with a local riding group. I hope they'll excuse my E3 howling for one more get together!
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jeffmack
Posted 2012-05-03 8:56 PM (#113494 - in reply to #75958)
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Iron Butt

Posts: 623
mine came as well...wont get her on till the 16th...will update then looking forward to it
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okie vision
Posted 2012-05-07 7:38 PM (#113737 - in reply to #75958)
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Iron Butt

Posts: 752
Broken Arrow, OK
All done. Now running a Michelin Primacy Alpin 195*55*16 rear and a Bridgestone Exedra G709 front.
Left the house this past Friday with the OEM Dunlops @ 7500 miles cause I didn't have anytime to get the CT mounted up. Returned Sunday with 8300 miles, so it's safe to say I got 8300 miles out of the rear Elite III. The front OEM Elite had more to go.
Only a short ride tonight to spread out the "RideOn" balancing sealant in the front tire. I used 3 oz's of Dynabeads in the rear CT. Wife went with me and it felt very very nice but I'll wait a few weeks to really appraise this combo. We have a couple LONG weekenders coming up.
I will say, this being my first experience with a Vision, the rear tire removal was fine, reinstalling was a beotch for me alone. I took MUCH longer than it should have taken, lol. Had my wife not come home and helped line things up I'd probably still be out there.
Got both tires mounted at a local car tire shop for 29 bucks.
Ride safe! Added a few pics in my album.

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Arkainzeye
Posted 2012-05-07 9:05 PM (#113742 - in reply to #75958)
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Visionary

Posts: 3773
Pittsburgh, PA
i have to agree with you that it is harder to reinstall the wheel than remove it!!! i used to have a 08 vision and i dont remember it being as hard as it was on my 11.. i know its all the same but DAMN... i was starting to get pissed!! all the more reason why i am glad i went with a CT (less changes) tonight was my first time riding 2up with my 175/60-16 Good Year Assurance Fuel Max tire. it rode soooo smooth!
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okie vision
Posted 2012-05-08 7:56 AM (#113780 - in reply to #75958)
Subject: Re: All Dark Siders (car tire) please step inside


Iron Butt

Posts: 752
Broken Arrow, OK
I will not release the number of times I was up and down with the floor jack, lol. My knees are shot anyway and this was a trying time.
I lack patience and my dealer, as well as all other MC shops are closed on Mondays and of course I wanted this done Monday!!
That Goodyear looks like a nice tire. Hope you enjoy it.
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Arkainzeye
Posted 2012-05-08 8:05 AM (#113781 - in reply to #75958)
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Visionary

Posts: 3773
Pittsburgh, PA
hey Okie vision, when i did my recent CT i was talking to myself looking up under the bike..LOL "i dont remember needing another set of hands" then a bunch of F. U.'s! im still confused why i was able to remove my rear wheel on my 08 vision more than 3 times and reinstall it and not loose my mind. but i do it 1 time on my 11 and i dont want to ever remove the rear wheel again now.... (unless i have another set of hands) btw im still using the same sears motorcycle jack i bought in 2003 for $79.. i havd used it on 5 bikes. it must of paid for itself no less than 20 times over if not more.. its looking like hell.. it might be time for a new one..
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okie vision
Posted 2012-05-08 10:07 AM (#113785 - in reply to #113781)
Subject: Re: All Dark Siders (car tire) please step inside


Iron Butt

Posts: 752
Broken Arrow, OK
Arkainzeye - 2012-05-08 8:05 AM

then a bunch of F. U.'s!
LMAO I think I heard you or it might have been my echo in the garage! That's funny stuff right there. A vid cam would be funny to do but it would need to be well hidden cause if I found it during a rear tire change I would throw that sucker sooooo far................ I knew I needed more hands and I got tired of hearing myself say.."you have GOT to be kidding me...REALLY?" Those were the only non cuss words I remember using.
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varyder
Posted 2012-05-08 10:46 AM (#113788 - in reply to #75958)
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Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
Very easy to install the rear wheel, use a long screwdriver to help keep things lined up to make it even easier...
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okie vision
Posted 2012-05-08 11:27 AM (#113791 - in reply to #75958)
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Iron Butt

Posts: 752
Broken Arrow, OK
Good grief Virginia, where's the fun in that?
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Arkainzeye
Posted 2012-05-08 11:59 AM (#113793 - in reply to #113788)
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Visionary

Posts: 3773
Pittsburgh, PA
varyder - 2012-05-08 10:46 AM

Very easy to install the rear wheel, use a long screwdriver to help keep things lined up to make it even easier...


funny you mentioned that... i could have used your advice sooner. because what i did was, i used a very long 1/4 inch extention arm , its well over a foot long and thats what allowed me to get it all back together. =)
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varyder
Posted 2012-05-08 12:42 PM (#113802 - in reply to #113791)
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Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA

okie vision - 2012-05-08 12:27 PM Good grief Virginia, where's the fun in that?

 I know, right.  I can hit it without aide, in the dark, with my eyes close.  Others need assistance to get it moving....

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donetracey
Posted 2012-05-08 1:06 PM (#113803 - in reply to #75958)
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Visionary

Posts: 2118
Pitt Meadows, BC Canada
New E3's Friday - dealer installed and I get a nice weekend ride as part of the package. Doesn't get ANY better than that!

Tires: $600
Accomodation at a couple of Washington State resorts: $400 = $1,000 (exactly what my Canadian dealer wants for E3's installed)
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ScoreBo
Posted 2012-05-08 1:35 PM (#113805 - in reply to #75958)
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Iron Butt

Posts: 1117
Northeast Ohio
"Mr. Tire Load Rating" is interested in darkside. I am curious for those that have been darkside for a while and went from an all-season to winter only tire. Did you notice any handling differences? I know when I run winter tires on the car, it feels loose in the warmer months (early spring - never tried them in the summer). I would imagine the grip would be better with a winter tire given the softer compound.
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IndyDan
Posted 2012-05-09 8:44 AM (#113876 - in reply to #75958)
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Puddle Jumper

Posts: 15
Welch Minnesota
I have about 1000 miles on my Rear Winter Sport CT and I like it way better then the stock E3.

Yes the bike has changed alittle.

#1 its more stable at slow parade speed.
#2 it has unbelievable traction in cold weather on cold roads
#3 - I am not spooked about driving on wet grass in camp grounds anymore.
#4 - It handles better on my gravel road ( Just ordered a 150/60ZR18 ) for the front I hope it fits
between the forks. ( hate the front 130 width. )
#5 - It seems to take a tiny bit more counter steer then the E3 ( Much better ) and I really like it better in the sharp quick corners, The tire givens me more confidence that if I hit a touch of sand or anything else that the soft compond will bite and grab the road without skidding out.

my 2 cents.
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Blue Sky Guy
Posted 2012-05-09 1:03 PM (#113887 - in reply to #113876)
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Tourer

Posts: 329
scotts valley, California
What brand and size is that Rear Winter Sport?  Do you have any idea how it will hold up to three digit temps?
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johnnyvision
Posted 2012-05-09 4:51 PM (#113902 - in reply to #75958)
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Visionary

Posts: 4278
To all guys that have a vision and check the air in the rear tire. I put a mark on the rim so as to roll the wheel and not have to get on hands and knees but "once"
I had to tell my brain not to rub mark off. By the way its black paint.



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jb.hatch
Posted 2012-05-09 4:55 PM (#113903 - in reply to #75958)
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Cruiser

Posts: 249
Phenix City AL.
I just had the winter sport put on 175/60/16, I like it but the only issue I have is, when turning sharp (out of a drive way or off a side street) and get on the gas hard, I can feel the tread move then grip the road. Its a soft tire. It handles great on the road and in a hard rain.
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handyhiker
Posted 2012-05-10 5:41 PM (#113960 - in reply to #113737)
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Cruiser

Posts: 258
Akron, Ohio
okie vision - 2012-05-07 8:38 PM

All done. Now running a Michelin Primacy Alpin 195*55*16 rear and a Bridgestone Exedra G709 front.
Left the house this past Friday with the OEM Dunlops @ 7500 miles cause I didn't have anytime to get the CT mounted up. Returned Sunday with 8300 miles, so it's safe to say I got 8300 miles out of the rear Elite III. The front OEM Elite had more to go.
Only a short ride tonight to spread out the "RideOn" balancing sealant in the front tire. I used 3 oz's of Dynabeads in the rear CT. Wife went with me and it felt very very nice but I'll wait a few weeks to really appraise this combo. We have a couple LONG weekenders coming up.
I will say, this being my first experience with a Vision, the rear tire removal was fine, reinstalling was a beotch for me alone. I took MUCH longer than it should have taken, lol. Had my wife not come home and helped line things up I'd probably still be out there.
Got both tires mounted at a local car tire shop for 29 bucks.
Ride safe! Added a few pics in my album.


That is a good looking tire. I will be interested to hear if the tread squirms in a turn. With that many sipes, curious as to the stability.
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johnnyvision
Posted 2012-05-10 5:54 PM (#113964 - in reply to #75958)
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Visionary

Posts: 4278
I'm running 38psi and have all most 10 thousand on mine and find it to be good if not great. I go threw the twisters just fine lean like I all ways do. Yes maybe some sharp turn you might have a funny feeling but then thats the way you ride. Keep in mind the CT is only as good as we push it. Lean over to far or turn to sharp and yes you'll have troubles but then wouldn't we with a MC tire. I have all ways been one that leans to far into corners and then and now my floor boards will tell you my story. One thing is you will have to relax on crown roads till you get the hang of it and then all will be good.
For $115 bucks as to $225 buck you decide
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IndyDan
Posted 2012-05-11 1:56 PM (#114024 - in reply to #113887)
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Puddle Jumper

Posts: 15
Welch Minnesota
Blue Sky Guy - 2012-05-09 1:03 PM

What brand and size is that Rear Winter Sport?? Do you have any idea how it will hold up to three digit temps?


Its a Dunlop Winter Sport - SP 175/60R/16 3D.

I absolutely love Winter Tires, I run winter Only Tires on 4 vehicles.

#1 - 2004 Cummins 1 Ton Dodge Dually with 6 Blizzacks on it.

#2 - Jeep Grand Cherekee Blizzacks

#3 - 1995 Ford Taurus ( Parts runner )

#4 - 2012 Equinox ( Wifes Unit ) This is the only one I have 2 sets of rims and I change hers back to summer tires because she drives to many miles. ( The first time I put Blizzacks on here Car ) She came home from work and said I can't believe I have never had snow tires before...... She said they are unbelieveable. In the fall when she hears that there is snow in the forcast she says I need my snow tires put on NOW !!!

Yes the Winter Only Tires wear way faster on a Car or truck but the traction is second to none.

And as far as being alittle sqishy on a car or truck yes they are. But on a car your throwing thousands of pounds at the tire sideways.

As far as the bikes handling to me....... I can tell its alittle shorter just because it bites everything so much better.

And the way it handles on my gravel road is priceless compared to the stock E3

To me there is nothing to get use to other then it feels safer to me.

Dan
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rainryder
Posted 2012-05-11 2:25 PM (#114026 - in reply to #75958)
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Tourer

Posts: 444
Bay of Gigs, WA
Question: Which side is considered "white wall out?"
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Rollin'
Posted 2012-05-11 9:15 PM (#114058 - in reply to #75958)
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Iron Butt

Posts: 825
, WI

My new snow tire -

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Nozzledog
Posted 2012-05-11 10:42 PM (#114059 - in reply to #75958)
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Visionary

Posts: 1229
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Now you just have to break it in for 500 miles, then you can post a comparison with the CT you just took off.
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