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ridingcowboy
Posted 2011-09-12 9:10 PM (#96384)
Subject: NEW AMERICAN MOTORCYCLE COMPANY


Cruiser

Posts: 51
REXBURG IDAHO
SOMEONE THAT AT THE HOLY TOP OF VICTORY NEEDS TO READ THE ADV ON WHAT THEY MEAN THAT THEY ARE THE NEW AMERICAN MOTORCYCLE COMPANY AND DO WHAT THEY SAY AND BUILD A BIKE THAT DOES NOT HAVE CHEAP ASS PARTS AND SOMTHING YOU CAN BE PROUD TO RECOMEND TO YOUR RIDING FRIENDS. SO HOPE SOMEONE HAS THE TOP MANS EMAIL AND FORWARD THIS TO HIM.
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ridingcowboy
Posted 2011-09-12 9:19 PM (#96386 - in reply to #96384)
Subject: RE: NEW AMERICAN MOTORCYCLE COMPANY


Cruiser

Posts: 51
REXBURG IDAHO
AND THEN ALL YOU VISION RIDERS WOULD NOT HAVE TO HAVE YOUR FORKS IN A SHOP.

YOU WOULD NOT HAVE TO HAVE BOKEN FENDERS.

YOU WOULD NOT BE PUTTING UPGRADED SPEAKERS

YOU WOULD NOT HAVE A CHEAP CLEAR COAT ON YOR BIKE.

YOU WOULD NOT BE LOOKING TO REPLACE OR UPGRADE YOUR SEAT BECAUSE ITS BROKE DOWN AFTER 15.000.00 MILES.

SO YOU BOYS AT VICTORY TAKE NOTICE AND PAY ATTENTION AND DO SAY SOMTHING YOU ARE NOT AND THAT IS THE NEW AMERICAN MOTORCYLE COMPANY.

WHAT YOU SHOULD SAY IS WE ARE THE NEW CHEAP ASS MOTORCYCLE COMPANY THAT USES CHEAP ASS PARTS.
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vision4me
Posted 2011-09-12 9:29 PM (#96388 - in reply to #96384)
Subject: Re: NEW AMERICAN MOTORCYCLE COMPANY


Cruiser

Posts: 70
Iowa
who sh*t in your cereal?
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XRsteve
Posted 2011-09-12 9:52 PM (#96391 - in reply to #96384)
Subject: Re: NEW AMERICAN MOTORCYCLE COMPANY


Visionary

Posts: 2300
Georgia, west of Atlanta
Damn, that was a mouth full...............
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wseemann
Posted 2011-09-12 9:59 PM (#96392 - in reply to #96384)
Subject: Re: NEW AMERICAN MOTORCYCLE COMPANY


Cruiser

Posts: 215
Boydsville, AR United States
ya, what vision4me said!
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ridingcowboy
Posted 2011-09-12 10:12 PM (#96394 - in reply to #96388)
Subject: Re: NEW AMERICAN MOTORCYCLE COMPANY


Cruiser

Posts: 51
REXBURG IDAHO
YA VICTORY DID. WITH THERE NEW AMERICAN MOTORCYLE.
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relic123
Posted 2011-09-12 10:34 PM (#96396 - in reply to #96384)
Subject: Re: NEW AMERICAN MOTORCYCLE COMPANY


Cruiser

Posts: 61
Southeast Idaho
35,000 miles on mine and the fork seals are shot, fork oil shot, broken front fender, seat foam is broken down to nothing, clear coat is horrible, neck bearing shot....Problem is i love this bike and the way it handles, I just can undertand why a $23000 dollar machine is wearing out so fast when its made to be a touring machine that should be able to withstand the abuse and hold up like a goldwing.....40,000 on the goldwing and nothing but trouble free miles
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donetracey
Posted 2011-09-12 10:49 PM (#96398 - in reply to #96384)
Subject: Re: NEW AMERICAN MOTORCYCLE COMPANY


Visionary

Posts: 2118
Pitt Meadows, BC Canada
Mine is PERFECT - but it's only 4 years old. I guess my time is coming, hope I live that long ....
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rwilly
Posted 2011-09-12 11:36 PM (#96399 - in reply to #96384)
Subject: RE: NEW AMERICAN MOTORCYCLE COMPANY


Tourer

Posts: 523
seattle, wa
It beats the alternative IMHO.
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Nozzledog
Posted 2011-09-13 12:00 AM (#96401 - in reply to #96384)
Subject: Re: NEW AMERICAN MOTORCYCLE COMPANY


Visionary

Posts: 1229
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Not there yet, 1 year and 13k sMiles and it looks like new, handles like new, runs better than new and speakers work better than my Harley's did (new).
The bad thing about reading these forums, is that you start to think everybody is having problems with their bikes when it is only a small percentage of unlucky riders. I have met many Vision riders that have never had any problems and don't come to these forums. It seems like a lot of forum traffic is people that need answers to a problem and want to ask around before going to their dealer with it. The majority that don't have problems, are never heard from.
(I came here to find cool accessories)
Sorry you got a bum ride.
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varyder
Posted 2011-09-13 5:09 AM (#96405 - in reply to #96384)
Subject: Re: NEW AMERICAN MOTORCYCLE COMPANY


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
where are all these crybabies coming from all of a sudden?

Edited by varyder 2011-09-13 5:09 AM
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Arkainzeye
Posted 2011-09-13 5:53 AM (#96407 - in reply to #96405)
Subject: Re: NEW AMERICAN MOTORCYCLE COMPANY


Visionary

Posts: 3773
Pittsburgh, PA
varyder - 2011-09-13 5:09 AM

where are all these crybabies coming from all of a sudden?



I was thinking the samething.! All the sudden we went from a upper class forum to jerry springer type posts....
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Man314
Posted 2011-09-13 6:19 AM (#96408 - in reply to #96384)
Subject: Re: NEW AMERICAN MOTORCYCLE COMPANY


Tourer

Posts: 575
Spirit Lake IA "Birthplace of Victory Motorcycles"
Harley must be running scared and has hired a few people to get on the competitions forums to stir things up. Heck, I could post that I was riding down the road with 75 miles on a brand new bike and not only did my engine fall out, but the belt jumped up and slapped me on the head, but we know that would not be true (MAYBE YOU'D BELIEVE ME MORE IF I TYPED EVERYTHING IN CAPS ) Who can believe some of these trolls who sign on just to spew venom and try to drag Victory into the mud. You can tell by the style and context of the posts who is sincere in seeking good information an input and who is just trying to stir the pot.

I agree with Nozzledog on forums focusing the one or two people having problems and others assuming it is a bigger problem than it really is. If I posted everthing that performed well and didnt break, it would be a long boring list. One more thing, many people do come here to offer advice and looking for ideas to customize and upgrade. Just cause we are upgrading, doesn't mean parts are broken or inferior.

I feel sorry for people who live from day to day with such negativity.
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kris1956
Posted 2011-09-13 6:30 AM (#96409 - in reply to #96388)
Subject: Re: NEW AMERICAN MOTORCYCLE COMPANY


Iron Butt

Posts: 1109

vision4me - 2011-09-12 9:29 PM who sh*t in your cereal?

 This, sorry your wifes mad at you too.

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Kornbread
Posted 2011-09-13 7:12 AM (#96412 - in reply to #96384)
Subject: Re: NEW AMERICAN MOTORCYCLE COMPANY


Cruiser

Posts: 97
Okeefenokee Swamp
When you respond,you only add fuel to the fire.Ignore them and they go away.
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viclvr
Posted 2011-09-13 7:24 AM (#96414 - in reply to #96384)
Subject: Re: NEW AMERICAN MOTORCYCLE COMPANY


Cruiser

Posts: 92
Princeton, MN
Ditto,,,, 38k nothing but a GREAT BIG SMILE! and lots of people who wish they had one....ha HAVE A GREAT DAY!
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hoosiervic
Posted 2011-09-13 7:25 AM (#96415 - in reply to #96384)
Subject: Re: NEW AMERICAN MOTORCYCLE COMPANY


Tourer

Posts: 492
Indianapolis, IN
<p>FYI....... On a whim I decided to ride to FL from Indy a week ago, and I never do this. So I says to my sweet and understanding wife, "Honey, since I'm taking a week off work for my 50th birthday and you can't, I think I'm going to do something out of the blue just cause I want to. I'm going to jump on my bike in the morning and ride it to Florida to see Jon". She said go for it, so I loaded up about 4 days cloths and some toiletries and drove straight through with 4 gas stops on the way, ending the ride down with and hour of riding in tropical storm Lee.Did I take tools, emergency supplies, a list of dealers on the way, etc etc. No! I got up at 5am, packed one bag. Threw in my rain suit and hit the opem road! I didn't even have one thought about whether I would have trouble getting to my son's house 700 miles away.Long story short 1600 miles total, five days and two storms and about 180.00 fuel. No troubles, just fun!!</p>

Edited by hoosiervic 2011-09-13 7:29 AM
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varyder
Posted 2011-09-13 8:09 AM (#96420 - in reply to #96384)
Subject: Re: NEW AMERICAN MOTORCYCLE COMPANY


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
HV, many could affirm your adventure with their own, I certainly can. Everytime I've hit the road, finding a dealer was the last thing on my mind. I've been to Texas, 1,650 miles in two days, 2,600 miles to Barstow in 4 days, and 3,000+ on the return trip home through the Nevada desert on the Loneliest Road in American, and never had any issues. Rode in the pouring rain, snow, and even ice, 110 degree tempatures - rolling 2 and 3 hour stretches only stopping long enough to get gas on 19 hour days. The Vision has long ago proven to have been the right choice in a long-distance hard hauler.

Edited by varyder 2011-09-13 8:10 AM
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mkultra
Posted 2011-09-13 8:42 AM (#96424 - in reply to #96384)
Subject: Re: NEW AMERICAN MOTORCYCLE COMPANY


Tourer

Posts: 374
Tucson, AZ
71,000 miles on my 08, sure I had a bad front fender...big freaken deal. I love this bike....you put that many miles on anything and something is bound to fail....but the motor is as good today as it was the first day I got it....actually better today. Im never looking back...the other American motorcylcle company is a joke.....My Vision is the Best Cycle there is ...hands down.

mike
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glighto11
Posted 2011-09-13 9:18 AM (#96426 - in reply to #96384)
Subject: RE: NEW AMERICAN MOTORCYCLE COMPANY


Iron Butt

Posts: 741
Central New York

Have you noticed that most of these "rant" posts come from posters in the "Puddle Jumper" class?

I'm not surprised at the rants though, when you take into consideration that they haven't even found the "Caps Locks" key yet.

But seriously, ya have to wonder where the information originates from. I have been relatively active in Vision circles for a few years now and I just don't see a base for this kind of a rant. I have only heard of a couple "fork leak" instances, and have never heard of that being traced to a design flaw. I only fork design "questionable" issue that I am aware of is the oil change interval. Personally I never gave it much thought, but I can visualize where such specs would be more critical for a "Cadillac" ride than a "John Deere" ride.

The clearcoat was an issue for 08 and part of 09, but I believe that has been corrected. I am under the understanding that the seat material has been ungraded now that a weakness in starting to show up. I don't see where that makes the original design a "cheap" product. A worst I would say it is a product that didn't have the desired longevity. There is a fine line between under spec'd and over design, and under spec'd does not automatically mean "cheap".

I think the bottom line is that most Vision owners would agree that the Vision is one one the best "values" out there. 

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hoosiervic
Posted 2011-09-13 9:31 AM (#96427 - in reply to #96420)
Subject: Re: NEW AMERICAN MOTORCYCLE COMPANY


Tourer

Posts: 492
Indianapolis, IN
I hear ya there VA. We all know how far you push the boundaries on the Vision. For me I've put a lot of miles on the bike in the last 18 months having logged over 27,000 in that short time. Especially considering that around 25K of that distance took place in Indiana. So just heading off like "Wild hogs", by myself, without a second thought about the possibility of bike problems, well what can I say, my actions, as well as the rest who are chiming in here are proof that we truly do believe in the quality of this bike. We are proving it every Day!!
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victoryvisiontour
Posted 2011-09-13 10:13 AM (#96430 - in reply to #96384)
Subject: RE: NEW AMERICAN MOTORCYCLE COMPANY


Iron Butt

Posts: 763
Anderson, IN (48mi NE of downtown Indianapolis)
27,000 miles and only 2 small insignificant parts replaced at no charge while I waited. Those two parts where the gas cap and cruise control button pod. I ride all year in Indiana except in snow. Temps range from 101 to 18 degrees. I ride everyday to work rain or shine. I pull a trailer at least 80 miles every week with either mountain bikes (yes plural, gf rides with me) or a motorcross bike. On the weekends we usually pull the trailer with the bicycles more than 200 miles. The Vision has been trouble free. I figured pulling a trailer so much while riding 2up would at least stretch the drive belt. I have never tightened it and it is still within spec. I have done a couple of small improvements to get rid of rattles and squeaks, but I very much expected this from a 1st year model. Actually, I have experienced far less annoyances than I anticipated. As it stands right now, I will definately buy another Vision. I'm just waiting for something really kewl to be offered on a new one that cannot be retro fitted to my 2008.

Edited by victoryvisiontour 2011-09-13 10:16 AM
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SYNSTR
Posted 2011-09-13 10:14 AM (#96432 - in reply to #96384)
Subject: Re: NEW AMERICAN MOTORCYCLE COMPANY


Iron Butt

Posts: 785
Mt. Vernon, WASH.
I've been to Rexburg Idaho, it's about 3 blocks from where they give the earth an enema-
Time for the moderators to start doing screening before letting people on the forum, several other big forums I'm on do that, it takes 1 to 3 days to be cleared that you aren't a SPAMMER, and if you turn out to be one, you are quickly and permanently deleted after one or two posts.
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varyder
Posted 2011-09-13 10:23 AM (#96433 - in reply to #96384)
Subject: Re: NEW AMERICAN MOTORCYCLE COMPANY


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
AND THEN ALL YOU VISION RIDERS WOULD NOT HAVE TO HAVE YOUR FORKS IN A SHOP. - Never had a fork problem.

YOU WOULD NOT HAVE TO HAVE BOKEN FENDERS. - Only had a BOKEN (sic) rear fender due to additional weight of a mudflap and potentially got caught against a speed bump as well.

YOU WOULD NOT BE PUTTING UPGRADED SPEAKERS - original speakers and my wife can hear me about a half mile away when I'm coming home.

YOU WOULD NOT HAVE A CHEAP CLEAR COAT ON YOR BIKE. - Yeah, but I got a really great DIRT COAT, I guess I need to wash it more.

YOU WOULD NOT BE LOOKING TO REPLACE OR UPGRADE YOUR SEAT BECAUSE ITS BROKE DOWN AFTER 15.000.00 MILES. - Vinyl has never been my choice of seats and agree all premium motorcycle should have a premium leather seat.

SO YOU BOYS AT VICTORY TAKE NOTICE AND PAY ATTENTION AND DO SAY SOMTHING YOU ARE NOT AND THAT IS THE NEW AMERICAN MOTORCYLE COMPANY. - I won't say that they don't read the forum, but a forum is not the "complaint department" to Victory or Polaris. If you want to get issues resolved, don't whine on a forum, go directly to the company via the dealer network, or regional director. A forum is no more than a vehicle of misinformaiton, albeit, some good information gets shared and discerning individuals benefit from it. But overall more bad information and unfounded issues are splattered all over internet forums about everything that is loses the creditability as a real sharer of information.

WHAT YOU SHOULD SAY IS WE ARE THE NEW CHEAP ASS MOTORCYCLE COMPANY THAT USES CHEAP ASS PARTS. - This is a prime example of what I'm talking about. I can say my early '08 Vision uses quality parts and has held up tremendously to my abuse. I'm proud to own a Vision and the American ingenuity and quality it represents.

Personally - this is not directed at the cowboy but to the reader that is so confused by such interjections and conjecture that is conjured up over this type of post.

Happy Motoring!

Edited by varyder 2011-09-13 10:25 AM
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ridingcowboy
Posted 2011-09-13 10:49 AM (#96435 - in reply to #96384)
Subject: RE: NEW AMERICAN MOTORCYCLE COMPANY


Cruiser

Posts: 51
REXBURG IDAHO
WELL YOU ARE ALL WRONG I AM NOT A HARLEY RIDER AND NEVER HAVE BEEN AND DONT WORK FOR HARLEY . ITS JUST WHEN YOU HAVE HAD BIKES THAT DONT HAVE PROBLEMS AND YOU START TO HAVE PROBLEMS WITH A BIKE AT 16000 MILES THAT 2 YRS OLD AND YOU HAVE HAD POLARIS PPODUCTS FOR YEARS AND HAVE GREAT SUCCESS WITH SNOWMACHINES YOU EXPECT THE SAME FROM THEM ON BIKES.SO YOU SPENT MORE ON THIS BIKE THAN ANY BIKE OR SNOWMACHINE YOU HAVE OWENED THERE IS A EXPEXTATION ON WHAT YOU ARE GETTING FOR YOUR MONEY AND WHEN A COMPANY ADVERTISES THAT THEY ARE THE NEW AMERICAN MOTORCYLCLE COMPANY YOU PUT YOUR TRUST THAT THEY ARE GIVING YOU MORE FOR YOUR MONEY THAN HARLEY AND NOT BEING CHEAP ASSES ON PARTS THEY ARE PUTTING IN THERE BIKES. IF YOU ALL HAVE NOT TAKEN THE TIME TO LOOK AT THE CHEAP PARTS THEY HAVE PUT IN THIS BIKE YOU SHOULD. MAYBE SOME OF YOU THAT THINK THAT THE SPEAKERS IN THE BIKE ARE OK CANT HEAR ANYWAY SO IT WOULD MAKE NO DIFF WHAT THEY HAVE IN THE BIKE FOR SOUND I HAVE NEVER SEEN SUCH A CHEAP ASS SPEAKER IN MY LIFE. AND IF ANY OF YOU RIDE FOR ANY TIME SITTING ON THE CHEAP ASS SEAT THEY PUT IN THE BIKE YOU SHOULD TAKE THE TIME TO OPEN THE SEAT UP AND LOOK AT THE CHEAP ASS FOAM THAT THEY USED ON THE SEAT.AND IF VICTORY WAS REALLY WANTED SATISFIED CUSTOMERS AND THEY KNOW THEY PUT OUT A CHEAP ASS PRODUCT ON THE 08 AND 09 MODELS THEN THEY KNOW WHAT THEY DID. SO THE SHORT OF THE STORY IS THE CONSUMER AS ALLWAYS PAYS THE PRICE....
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