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Cap'n Nemo
Posted 2011-05-05 10:08 PM (#85614)
Subject: Brake Pads


Visionary

Posts: 1359
New Bohemia, Va
My brake pads are shot and I don't have a dealer close, so I'm going to the metric dealer and see if they have polaris cross-references. I found something online that says honda has the same, and some other after markets under a different number so I'll give it a try.

As for the rest of you, has anyone gotten brake pads for your Vision from a LOCAL metric dealer?
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RedRider
Posted 2011-05-06 5:16 AM (#85632 - in reply to #85614)
Subject: Re: Brake Pads


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Posts: 1350
I got my EBC pads through Higgin's Victory dealer. No more squeaks when I stop. Had an aircraft tow vehicle with squeaky brakes back in NM. Won't say how I cured them back then just that squeaky brakes drive me nuts since then.....
http://www.ebcbrakes.com/
Check on line?
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Biscuit
Posted 2011-05-06 7:43 AM (#85638 - in reply to #85614)
Subject: Re: Brake Pads


Cruiser

Posts: 273
Midlothian, Va.
My '09 Vision has squeaky brakes also (16k) and it's driving me crazy. I always thought OEM's were the best choice but I'm open for something better.
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Cap'n Nemo
Posted 2011-05-06 7:52 AM (#85639 - in reply to #85614)
Subject: Re: Brake Pads


Visionary

Posts: 1359
New Bohemia, Va
well, at 16k it is pass time to change for them, front, rear or both, depending on how you engage them. I not really open beyond OEM, it is out of necessity, I'm on metal to metal and it reminds me of my old ford pick up. Since there is an "industry standard" for almost anything I figure such be the case for brake pads. Several Part# for Honda cross reference to a marshall cross-reference to the polaris part#. No Harley, only Honda, Marshall EBC, Vesrah... so I'm hoping to find them easily without going to a Victory dealer.
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radioteacher
Posted 2011-05-06 8:10 AM (#85640 - in reply to #85614)
Subject: Re: Brake Pads


Visionary

Posts: 3006
San Antonio, TX
I am using the ECB pads. The Front Vision pads are the same as the back of one Honda and the Back Vision pads are the same as the front of a different Honda motorcycle.

Just look up the ECB numbers and you might find a dealer that has them. I ordered mine online.

Ride Safe
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Biscuit
Posted 2011-05-06 8:35 AM (#85644 - in reply to #85614)
Subject: Re: Brake Pads


Cruiser

Posts: 273
Midlothian, Va.
Never have been hard on brakes mine still have a good 1/8" of pad left. Think I'll just remove them blow out the dust and put on some lube. Still have the original tires on (40/40) and I had no problem or fear of taking that trip to the Keys last week as the tread is just about on the wear bars. Going to Myrtle Beach on the 17th and will replace them with a new set of Metzler's that are in the garage before leaving for Helen on the 2nd of June. I would like to know the Honda part #'s for their pads because I always had good mileage and no squeaking with them.<br />

Edited by Biscuit 2011-05-06 8:37 AM
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Cap'n Nemo
Posted 2011-05-06 9:00 AM (#85645 - in reply to #85614)
Subject: Re: Brake Pads


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Posts: 1359
New Bohemia, Va
I'll have to call you easy rider. I replaced my first rear brakes right at 15,000 miles and front went around 20,000 something. If you are getting that good wear on your tires, you are doing better than most, way better.

Seems EBC is the ticket, Front: FA142, rear FA196. Honda's number is Front 06455-KFR-701 (maybe 702 now) and Rear 06455-MAH-405. Don't quote me on that, I just called one place, Commonwealth Cycle in Prince George and they only carry EBC for brakes, period, no OEM and they only have the rear. I'll have to stop by Ultimate Cycles to see if they have them, they won't answer the phone. I hear they are a bunch of slackers, but if they got the part we'll do good.
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johnnyvision
Posted 2011-05-06 11:29 AM (#85655 - in reply to #85614)
Subject: Re: Brake Pads


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Posts: 4278
STOCK brake pads are cheap junk. Get the sintered pads you'll stop ten feet quicker. They last as long as factory pads
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Cap'n Nemo
Posted 2011-05-06 12:52 PM (#85658 - in reply to #85614)
Subject: Re: Brake Pads


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Posts: 1359
New Bohemia, Va
got the ebc from honda house
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cw1115
Posted 2011-05-06 1:27 PM (#85659 - in reply to #85614)
Subject: Re: Brake Pads


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Posts: 1290
Ruskin, Fl
I needed brake pads or I was off the road. EBC pads had to be ordered. The Honda dealer crossed referenced the EBC number and sold me pads for a Wing. Fit perfect. Much better stopping over stock pads.
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Cap'n Nemo
Posted 2011-05-06 5:44 PM (#85671 - in reply to #85614)
Subject: Re: Brake Pads


Visionary

Posts: 1359
New Bohemia, Va
...well here I sit, the rain came while I was working on the bike. The front left bolt that holds the caliper to the fork would not come out and I was in the process of drilling it out. I've got the head off, and the caliper off the fork, but I don't want to pull the lines. Soooo, tomorrow is another day, finish the oil change (Rotella 5w40) and hopefully finishing getting the bolt out. I just love these intimate moments with the Vision, I'll be back drilling on 'er again tomorrow if the weather brakes (no pun intended, well maybe, ok...)
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Jedi Jeff
Posted 2011-05-07 3:28 PM (#85712 - in reply to #85614)
Subject: RE: Brake Pads


Fountain Inn, SC United States
Cap'n et al, if you find pads that fit, please add them to our Parts Listing page
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jeffmack
Posted 2011-05-07 4:08 PM (#85713 - in reply to #85614)
Subject: Re: Brake Pads


Iron Butt

Posts: 623
38k my origional are just now coming off. what have others gotten? I am surprised by some of the short intervals. Most of my riding is pretty aggressive in the mountain, hard into the turns, hard out of the turns.
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cw1115
Posted 2011-05-07 5:38 PM (#85717 - in reply to #85614)
Subject: Re: Brake Pads


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Posts: 1290
Ruskin, Fl
I was on metal in the low 20s. Heard the bad noise rolling backward down driveway with engine off. Didn't damage rotors, thank heaven. That's why I didn't wait on EBC pads. I was off the road. I liked the Honda pads, made by Nissin.
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marcparnes
Posted 2011-05-07 6:35 PM (#85723 - in reply to #85645)
Subject: Re: Brake Pads


Iron Butt

Posts: 802
Cap'n Nemo - 2011-05-06 6:00 AM
Seems EBC is the ticket, Front: FA142, rear FA196.

Just looked EBC up in their online catalog. They're recommending sintered pads. Fronts are FA261HH and rears are FA196HH. Front requires two sets. They only list an organic pad (not sintered) for the rear as FA196. Here is a link to their online ordering. Better prices can probably be found.

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Cap'n Nemo
Posted 2011-05-07 7:36 PM (#85725 - in reply to #85614)
Subject: Re: Brake Pads


Visionary

Posts: 1359
New Bohemia, Va
The 142's and 196 are HH, and when I did my look up on line it didn't show the 261's, but they are a match to the stock. Thanks for the info.

As a side note, my Vision is down, the front left bolt that holds the caliper to the fork was a bear to drill and tap out. I lost some threads so I was going to get a longer bolt. The problem is that it is a 10X1.25, nearly impossible to find with an allen cap head. I'll have to try fastenal Monday, but my guess is they'll have to order it. I don't understand why automotive fastners are so hard to find, or why they have to use odd ball sizes for things like this.
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marcparnes
Posted 2011-05-07 7:44 PM (#85727 - in reply to #85725)
Subject: Re: Brake Pads


Iron Butt

Posts: 802
How long does the 10 x 1.25 have to be?
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Cap'n Nemo
Posted 2011-05-07 7:52 PM (#85728 - in reply to #85727)
Subject: Re: Brake Pads


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Posts: 1359
New Bohemia, Va
marcparnes - 2011-05-07 7:44 PM

How long does the 10 x 1.25 have to be?


about this long |-------------------------| on the thread part.

inch and a half or the equalivant to it in mm, probably 35 to 40. The hole goes all the way through and I can cut if it is longer. Any ideas?
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marcparnes
Posted 2011-05-07 7:55 PM (#85729 - in reply to #85728)
Subject: Re: Brake Pads


Iron Butt

Posts: 802
Mcmaster-Carr has them. They are black though. Nothing a spot of silver paint wouldn't handle.
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Cap'n Nemo
Posted 2011-05-07 7:57 PM (#85731 - in reply to #85614)
Subject: Re: Brake Pads


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Posts: 1359
New Bohemia, Va
Thanks, black is fine, I'm wanting to go "8-Ball" and that'll make a good start!

Edited by Cap'n Nemo 2011-05-07 7:57 PM
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marcparnes
Posted 2011-05-07 8:00 PM (#85732 - in reply to #85614)
Subject: Re: Brake Pads


Iron Butt

Posts: 802
These 7 products match your selections
Length Thread Length
20 mm Fully Threaded 96144A252 $10.90 Per Pack of 25
25 mm Fully Threaded 96144A256 10.35 Per Pack of 25
30 mm Fully Threaded 96144A261 11.95 Per Pack of 25
40 mm Fully Threaded 96144A265 5.77 Per Pack of 10
50 mm Partially Threaded 96144A269 6.90 Per Pack of 10
60 mm Partially Threaded 96144A273 7.51 Per Pack of 10
80 mm Partially Threaded 96144A277 11.39 Per Pack of 10
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Cap'n Nemo
Posted 2011-05-07 8:57 PM (#85736 - in reply to #85614)
Subject: Re: Brake Pads


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Posts: 1359
New Bohemia, Va
Thank you sir, I'll in ordering these and hope to have them by the end of the week so I can ride again. I need my fix...
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Cap'n Nemo
Posted 2011-05-12 12:13 PM (#86091 - in reply to #85723)
Subject: Re: Brake Pads


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Posts: 1359
New Bohemia, Va
marcparnes - 2011-05-07 6:35 PM

Cap'n Nemo - 2011-05-06 6:00 AM
Seems EBC is the ticket, Front: FA142, rear FA196.

Just looked EBC up in their online catalog. They're recommending sintered pads. Fronts are FA261HH and rears are FA196HH. Front requires two sets. They only list an organic pad (not sintered) for the rear as FA196. Here is a link to their online ordering. Better prices can probably be found.



From the sucession of cross-ref I came up with the 142 and that is incorrect. Thanks for the info marc, I got the right ones today FA261HH for the front. I got it right the first time with the rear FA196HH. Now to get my bolts today and be ready to ride by the rainy weekend. It never fails, bike breaks when the weather great, which is okay, because I work outside, and get it done just before the bad weather hits.
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Cap'n Nemo
Posted 2011-05-12 8:16 PM (#86118 - in reply to #85614)
Subject: Re: Brake Pads


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New Bohemia, Va
done
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radioteacher
Posted 2011-05-12 8:26 PM (#86120 - in reply to #85614)
Subject: Re: Brake Pads


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Posts: 3006
San Antonio, TX
Good....Now its riding time! Cap'n Nemo is on the way to 100k!!!
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