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Gray rider
Posted 2010-06-29 7:04 PM (#63351)
Subject: Parking survey


Tourer

Posts: 394
Tucson, AZ
This may be a silly question, but I'm curious. How many of you leave your bike in gear when you park and how many leave it in neutral? For one, I always leave mine in first gear when I park. My Harley buddy leaves his in neutral, even when parked on an incline. This has always puzzled me. Would you leave you four wheeler in neutral when it's parked? Wadda you say?
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SongFan
Posted 2010-06-29 7:17 PM (#63352 - in reply to #63351)
Subject: RE: Parking survey


Visionary

Posts: 3204
Memphis
Neutral, so I can start it and let it warm up without messing with the shift lever.  I only park it in gear if offerred no other choice but to park facing downhill.
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Lone Ranger
Posted 2010-06-29 7:49 PM (#63355 - in reply to #63351)
Subject: Re: Parking survey


Tourer

Posts: 447
Cleveland, GA
I always park it in gear. I DON'T like the idea of it rolling away. I don't mind shifting it into neutral to start it - only takes a second.
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Arkainzeye
Posted 2010-06-29 7:55 PM (#63356 - in reply to #63351)
Subject: Re: Parking survey


Visionary

Posts: 3773
Pittsburgh, PA
Neutral in my garage, in gear everywhere else...
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varyder
Posted 2010-06-29 8:05 PM (#63357 - in reply to #63351)
Subject: Re: Parking survey


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
I'm really neutral about this subject, and could shift either way.
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donetracey
Posted 2010-06-29 8:13 PM (#63358 - in reply to #63351)
Subject: Re: Parking survey


Visionary

Posts: 2118
Pitt Meadows, BC Canada
I just use the emergency 'Kill' Button - I heard from some HD guys that it would stop the bike from moving and even being stolen !!!
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Digby
Posted 2010-06-29 9:12 PM (#63366 - in reply to #63351)
Subject: Re: Parking survey


Cruiser

Posts: 141
Always in gear..... Always.
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Lotzafun
Posted 2010-06-29 9:17 PM (#63369 - in reply to #63351)
Subject: Re: Parking survey


Iron Butt

Posts: 935
Rockford, IL
Flat or uphill or downhill I always leave it in neutral. The kickstand has a "lock" position when its down.

Try this.....go out put your bike in neutral and give your bike a good healthy shove forward and/or backwards....it ain't gonna go anywhere.
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radioteacher
Posted 2010-06-29 9:24 PM (#63371 - in reply to #63351)
Subject: Re: Parking survey


Visionary

Posts: 3006
San Antonio, TX
I usually leave it in gear because I am lazy. I pulled up in gear so that's where it is when I get off of the Vision.

When getting ready to leave I unlock the trunk, tap it into neutral, key to on, engine kill switch to run and thumb the starter. While it warms up, I gear up and empty junk from my pockets into the trunk and saddle up.

Ride Safe!
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pete a
Posted 2010-06-29 9:52 PM (#63381 - in reply to #63351)
Subject: Re: Parking survey


Cruiser

Posts: 142
elgin mn
always neutral lock the ignition its not moving !
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bigwill5150
Posted 2010-06-29 10:02 PM (#63382 - in reply to #63351)
Subject: Re: Parking survey


Iron Butt

Posts: 725
Reno County, KS
In gear. I always kill the engine in gear and let it roll which ever way it wants until the play in the tranny is gone. Then I throw down the kick stand. I don't have to worry about it wanting to roll if someone else takes it off the stand or I need to sit it up for whatever reason. When I get ready to go, I set it up and reach down with my left hand to take it to neutral. (For some damn reason I can't find it when I use my foot.)I like to leave the engine dead until I'm lined up to take off. I then start the bike and have my passenger get on back. Same way every time. I never even thought about it until now. HA.
edit... And oh yeah, one more thing I JUST realized while thinking about it. I instinctively grab the front brake a lot when getting on the bike. I also use the rebound of the front brake to y-turn if I have to. Just hit it hard when pushing it forward and the rebound helps me start wheeling it backwards. Cheap and dirty but it works.

Edited by bigwill5150 2010-06-29 10:06 PM
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rwilly
Posted 2010-06-29 11:32 PM (#63394 - in reply to #63351)
Subject: Re: Parking survey


Tourer

Posts: 523
seattle, wa
Neutral on flat ground, in gear on a hill.
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donetracey
Posted 2010-06-29 11:35 PM (#63396 - in reply to #63371)
Subject: Re: Parking survey


Visionary

Posts: 2118
Pitt Meadows, BC Canada

radioteacher - 2010-06-29 7:24 PM I usually leave it in gear because I am lazy. I pulled up in gear so that's where it is when I get off of the Vision. When getting ready to leave I unlock the trunk, tap it into neutral, key to on, engine kill switch to run and thumb the starter. While it warms up, I gear up and empty junk from my pockets into the trunk and saddle up. Ride Safe!

NOT a good idea to let the bike idle while on the sidestand !!! This is another topic - we been 'der before ....

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varyder
Posted 2010-06-30 12:12 AM (#63398 - in reply to #63351)
Subject: Re: Parking survey


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
At home I'll let it idle on the kick because the bike is sitting nearly level. But other than that, I agree it is not a best idea to let it idle leaning on the kick.
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paulhu
Posted 2010-06-30 1:38 AM (#63399 - in reply to #63396)
Subject: Re: Parking survey


Cruiser

Posts: 132
Durango, Colorado
donetracey - 2010-06-29 10:35 PM

radioteacher - 2010-06-29 7:24 PM I usually leave it in gear because I am lazy. I pulled up in gear so that's where it is when I get off of the Vision. When getting ready to leave I unlock the trunk, tap it into neutral, key to on, engine kill switch to run and thumb the starter. While it warms up, I gear up and empty junk from my pockets into the trunk and saddle up. Ride Safe!

NOT a good idea to let the bike idle while on the sidestand !!! This is another topic - we been 'der before ....

      Idle mine on the side stand to warm-up in the garage and while preparing to leave work (shift worker). Ambient temps here in the spring are frequently in the mid 30"s low 40's in the mornings. Rather not damage the engine for lack of an adequate warm-up. Bike is always on level pavement while running on the side stand however. I do use the tranny to prevent rolling while parked on a hill as others have mentioned. Curious, what could be the problem with idling on the side stand?

             paulhu



Edited by paulhu 2010-06-30 1:41 AM
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donetracey
Posted 2010-06-30 2:03 AM (#63401 - in reply to #63351)
Subject: Re: Parking survey


Visionary

Posts: 2118
Pitt Meadows, BC Canada
OIL !
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paulhu
Posted 2010-06-30 3:59 AM (#63404 - in reply to #63401)
Subject: Re: Parking survey


Cruiser

Posts: 132
Durango, Colorado

      So for nearly a hundred years motorcycle manufacturers have produced machines that have no problem idling on the side stand then wham, the most advanced motorcycle to hit the market comes along and Victory designed it without this capability? Hard to fathom..... or......A huge oversight IMO. I could not find anything warning of this peculiarity in the owners manual. So I guess when the engine fails due to insufficient lubrication the warranty will only back the faulty side stand........Cool.

            paulhu

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varyder
Posted 2010-06-30 7:02 AM (#63413 - in reply to #63351)
Subject: Re: Parking survey


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
paulhu, I can agree with you on this, there seems to be an oversight on two accounts with starting on the kick. I've thought in the past that one should never start the bike on the kick and that one minute idle before rollin' is okay. So that means mount, take off the kick and fire while tightening helmet or such. But that is not feasible when doing maintenance and it must be on the kick to idle and run.

So on the two accounts that I experience is that the oil pick-up seems slower and it does knock more and louder while on the kick and, if the fuel is low, it does not have sufficient pick-up on the left lean, the kick lean. My bike, having sufficient fuel to run, has not started on the kick because it did not pick up the fuel until the bike was righted.

On either account, there again, I usually mount the bike before starting, and if I am doing maintenance it is usually on the motorcycle jack, bringing it level.
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GAColson
Posted 2010-06-30 8:30 AM (#63415 - in reply to #63351)
Subject: Re: Parking survey


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 38
Tucson,AZ
I don't use the kill switch, only the key. Always in gear. Always on the bike before starting.
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CoolHandLuke
Posted 2010-06-30 9:41 AM (#63418 - in reply to #63415)
Subject: Re: Parking survey


Iron Butt

Posts: 849
, FL United States
GAColson - 2010-06-30 8:30 AM

I don't use the kill switch, only the key. Always in gear. Always on the bike before starting.


+1
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Wizard523
Posted 2010-06-30 11:37 AM (#63427 - in reply to #63351)
Subject: Re: Parking survey


Tourer

Posts: 506
Woodland Hills, CA
Neutral on the flat, and in gear on slopes. And I always use the kill switch.
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donetracey
Posted 2010-06-30 12:47 PM (#63432 - in reply to #63404)
Subject: Re: Parking survey


Visionary

Posts: 2118
Pitt Meadows, BC Canada
paulhu - 2010-06-30 1:59 AM

      So for nearly a hundred years motorcycle manufacturers have produced machines that have no problem idling on the side stand then wham, the most advanced motorcycle to hit the market comes along and Victory designed it without this capability? Hard to fathom..... or......A huge oversight IMO. I could not find anything warning of this peculiarity in the owners manual. So I guess when the engine fails due to insufficient lubrication the warranty will only back the faulty side stand........Cool.

            paulhu

See this thread or ask FastFred if you don't believe me:

http://www.vision-riders.com/bb/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=6321&posts=18&mid=63029&highlight=engine+start&highlightmode=1&action=search#M63029

I have also read other accounts of this - for me - just plain makes sense and I don't RUN the bike on sidestand - starting is ok if you're gonna get going....

 

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Candyman
Posted 2010-06-30 1:28 PM (#63437 - in reply to #63351)
Subject: Re: Parking survey


Cruiser

Posts: 204
West Knoxville TN
Avoid hill parking, neutral w/kill sw or key. Oh and I idle it on the side stand.
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VisionTex
Posted 2010-06-30 3:03 PM (#63439 - in reply to #63437)
Subject: Re: Parking survey


Visionary

Posts: 1484
LaPorte,Tx.
I seldom park my Vision, but when I do, I face the bike east so the kick stand is pointing north...up hill. That way I can start it on the kick stand and hopefully NOT in gear!!
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Ralph
Posted 2010-06-30 7:49 PM (#63453 - in reply to #63351)
Subject: Re: Parking survey


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 27
In neutral in garage and 1st gear everywhere else. Also I never warm it up on sidestand. I start it, idle for about 20 seconds and drive away. I drive it easy for the first few miles. I've never had an issue doing it this way.
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