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| Maybe some good news, I spoke with my dealer (owner) a few weeks back about the fix for the iPod issue, got around to calling them back yesterday, he wasn't available but the parts manager was, she didn't know anything about the issue but decided to inquire herself, got a call back close to closing time and she told me that there is indeed a software/firmware update that addresses the gen 3 iPod, she was told it would be available in another week or two, she'll be calling me when it arrives.
I'll update this when I hear anything new.
Edited by tralphaz 2008-02-13 3:02 PM
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Valdosta, GA | That is good news. I stopped in to my dealer last weekend and asked them to call about an update. I will be dropping my bike off in March to have quite a bit of warranty work done and hope to get this issue fixed as well. |
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LaPorte,Tx. | mike s - 2008-02-13 3:18 PM
That is good news. I stopped in to my dealer last weekend and asked them to call about an update. I will be dropping my bike off in March to have quite a bit of warranty work done and hope to get this issue fixed as well.
Mike, I'm interested in what warranty work your having done? |
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| Do you know if this will fix the hard drive iPOD issues as well? Thanks, Tim |
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NW Illinois | I know this was on another post
But what was the issue with the hard drive ipods? |
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| It was killing the hard drive iPODs. Don't know if it was vibrations, magnetic fields, electrical problems or a combination of the above.
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Florida | Instead of gambling with ruining my exiting iPods, I went on Amazon.com and purchased a "used" 2nd Generation Nano for $80. I figure that's the safe method until a fix has been created. |
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Mount Vernon, WA United States | This patch is supposed to fix the "Gen 3" issue (lockup/on-off button issue). The hard drive issue is only solved by keeping your hard drive based ipod away from your Vision. |
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NW Illinois | Anybody know whats causing the hard drive issue
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Edmonton, AB | There is some background info on the Vision section of the VMC website, including a warning from Diamondrmp (who I believe works at a Victory Dealer)....try this link and see if it works for you.
http://forums.thevmc.com/megabbs/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=42913&p...
Just in case the link doesn't work, here is a copy of the original warning that was posted.
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Posted by Diamondrmp:
Hey all Gary (woodlandvic) and I attended the Vision Service Class yesterday Sept, 28 2007. We got a lot of information on the Vision and I will post a thread with some pictures.
We were told to let all of you know which includes dealers, sales and mechanics, DO NOT, DO NOT, DO NOT use your IPod on the Vision. These instructions, warning is limited to the IPods that have the "Hard" drives in them. The resonance from the Vision will destroy the hard drive. We were told the IPods that have the "Flash" drives are OK.
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To add to this....My IPod Video (Hard Drive model) locked up and stopped working about half way through a 30 minute demo ride. Following the ride I coud not get any of the controls on the IPod to work. Took it home and connected it to the computer, still nothing. Left if connected and when I checked it again in a few hours it was OK and it seemes to be working ok since then.
Hope this helps.
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NW Illinois | Thanks newfie
I only bought my ipod 6 months ago and would sure hate to mess it up, I was hoping there would be a fix
Might have to give the wife this one and get the nano |
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Edmonton, AB | I gave my teenage son an 8GB Gen III Nano for Christmas. He was happy to "donate" his old Ipod to his dad. 
Now I can use is older 2GB IPod Nano for the Vision when we finally get our bike in April.
Edited by Newfie 2008-02-14 9:03 PM
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Valdosta, GA | VisionTex - 2008-02-13 6:20 PM
Mike, I'm interested in what warranty work your having done?
Gen 3 Nano issue.
Voltage Regulator recall.
Handlebar powdercoat cracks.
Turn signal switch doesn't like to cancel when pressed.
Stereo handlebar switches. Sometimes when I adjust the volume, the radio station will change (and no I haven't been fat-fingering it).
Windshield. Black lower portion delaminating.
Flawed paint in right saddle-bag door. Looks like they missed a spot.
They don't know about the last two, yet and I'm not sure if they'll replace the bag door, but I've already addressed the dent and, now with the paint issue, I'll push a bit harder to have it replaced.
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Valdosta, GA | A recent discovery... I have an 8GB Gen 3 Nano and, like everyone else, it is subject to lock up on me from time to time. However, there seems to be a trend to this.
First, the mute button. Hit mute and it does just that. Unfortunately, it won't undo it, either. The Ipod still plays and you can change songs and the display will show the change, but you won't get any sound from the speakers.
Next, SRC changes. Once the Ipod is selected, you've got to stay with it. Change source, and you'll likely not get the Ipod back online. It'll act just like it does when the mute is selected.
Then, there's the power button. Don't turn the stereo off once you've got it up and running or you'll likely not get the Ipod back again. Once again, it'll function same as hitting the mute.
Finally, from time to time, just for S&Gs, the system will just stop putting out sound and revert to the same old mute function operating mode.
Prior to my recent dicovery, I would either have to shut down and stiwch off the bike or unplug and reconnect the ipod to get functionality back. However, yesterday, I found that if I simply change playlists, the sound comes back. Weird, but it works. I still want it fixed, but I'm quite so pissed off about it anymore...
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Carrollton, TX | graybeard - 2008-02-14 5:20 PM Anybody know whats causing the hard drive issue Regarding the issues with iPod’s with hard drives this is an issue in using this type of iPod or any similar device with a hard drive on any bike where it is subject to vibration. I have friends that have used their hard drive based iPods on their cruisers and sport bikes regardless of brand and the hard drive crashed from the vibration. Some people have got by with inclosing the iPod in a couple of inches of dense foam padding but you should use an iPod that uses memory for storage instead of a hard drive. |
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NW Illinois | Thanks again now I just have to convince my wife that she needs a ipod, and of course I will give her my nice 8gb and I will get the lesser 2gb so we dont spend to much if she doesnt like it. |
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LaPorte,Tx. | mike s - 2008-02-14 9:10 PM
A recent discovery... I have an 8GB Gen 3 Nano and, like everyone else, it is subject to lock up on me from time to time. However, there seems to be a trend to this.
First, the mute button. Hit mute and it does just that. Unfortunately, it won't undo it, either. The Ipod still plays and you can change songs and the display will show the change, but you won't get any sound from the speakers.
Next, SRC changes. Once the Ipod is selected, you've got to stay with it. Change source, and you'll likely not get the Ipod back online. It'll act just like it does when the mute is selected.
Then, there's the power button. Don't turn the stereo off once you've got it up and running or you'll likely not get the Ipod back again. Once again, it'll function same as hitting the mute.
Finally, from time to time, just for S&Gs, the system will just stop putting out sound and revert to the same old mute function operating mode.
Prior to my recent dicovery, I would either have to shut down and stiwch off the bike or unplug and reconnect the ipod to get functionality back. However, yesterday, I found that if I simply change playlists, the sound comes back. Weird, but it works. I still want it fixed, but I'm quite so pissed off about it anymore...
My 4GB NANO does the same thing, I normally don't switch to radio, but when I do, and then go back, nothing. I've tried the playlist switching, still no luck. I get it back by tuning off the Vision sound system and then changing the playlist on the NANO, then turning the sound system back on. Of course, you can't do that going down the highway. If figure if I get tired of this not working well in the future, I'll get satellite radio and forget the NANO. |
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Savannah, GA -Year round riding!! Yay! | I am having problems with my turn signals, too. The automatic cancelling isn't working with lean or shifting, only timing out. Is also hard to cancel manually. I am taking it in on Wednesday to have these looked at.
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Tacoma, WA | I have been using my 80 gig iPod on the bike with vibration-dampening layers around it with good success. Before I did that, it would have seizures, and the like, but since I dampened the cord, and the unit, no problems, so far, except when in really cold weather, but it seems to hate that regardless of vibration, just like my digital camera! |
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NW Illinois | metal what are you using a couple sponges, It sure would be nice to use mine since its already loaded with my kind of riding music |
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Las Vegas, Nevada USA baby! | Wow, I'm wondering if I am just lucky or not. I have an original issue 60GB hard drive iPod. I've used it for the full 650 miles I've put on the bike, and nary a problem. I've even been on some pretty rough and bumpy desert highways in both NV and CA. I even ran the battery down by not remembering to turn it off. FYI, I have only been using the headphone jack to listen, not the bottom feed connection. I just ordered the iPod connector yesterday through my dealer.
As far as the turn signal cancelling. I have to press in and hold for a second for cancelling unless I wait for the time out or cornering fairly sharp. |
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Las Vegas, Nevada USA baby! | I forgot to mention something that I've encountered when the AUX is on and my iPod is fed through the headphone jack to the sound system. Upon turning the key on and starting the engine, there is a little electronic snapping sound. Could this be frying the iPods hard-drives when the bottom connection is used? Now I've become leary of using the connection when I do get it from the dealer. It would be a hassle to have to remember to unplug it before turning the bike on an starting it each time! |
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| edradio - 2008-02-16 6:39 PM
I forgot to mention something that I've encountered when the AUX is on and my iPod is fed through the headphone jack to the sound system. Upon turning the key on and starting the engine, there is a little electronic snapping sound. Could this be frying the iPods hard-drives when the bottom connection is used? Now I've become leary of using the connection when I do get it from the dealer. It would be a hassle to have to remember to unplug it before turning the bike on an starting it each time!
Shouldn't be a concern, the snapping sound is coming from the stereo itself. Besides, the headphone jack is passive, sound current from the iPod can only travel to the stereo, not from it. |
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Brighton, TN | I can't get my cheapy hard drive based one to crash so I can go get a good large flash based player. Mine is an RCA MP3 player and it will just hang on random songs while going down the road. Anything to cushion it would work. If you put your hand in that little box where you put your IPOD and rev the motor, you will see there is a BUNCH of vibrations going on in that box. For you old timers, pretend you were putting micro-sized records (you know LP's) in that box with the needle sitting on it and then you get the idea why the hard drives don't work either. I know, I said "Old Timers"! |
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29 Palms California | Poot? Where ya been...I'm working mids this month, thats my excuse and I'm sticking with it. DesertJim should be home soon. Can't wait to hear about Laughlin and northern cali. |
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iPod issue gen 3
