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Dallas, Texas | I have always used Amsoil, in all my bikes in the past. But with a rewards program I have, I can get Royal Purple 10/40W Motorcycle by the case, for free. So, is it worth paying for Amsoil? Or is Royal Purple fine, especially for free? I have never used Royal Purple. Opinions, please. |
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New Bohemia, VA | front row seat.....I love a good oil thread and this looks like a good one in the making.... |
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Houston, Texas | varyder - 2009-10-14 12:06 PM
front row seat.....I love a good oil thread and this looks like a good one in the making....
It WILL be interesting to see how bloody this one gets....
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Brighton, TN | Ummmm, FREE, I'm thinking! Unless you got the cash to fling or burn, I'm still thinking FREE! Oh, nevermind, send me the free cases of Royal Purple, I used it but didn't see any or feel any difference. Be glad to see if the FREE RP is as goood as AMSOIL. Be glad to try it for you FREE! I'm still thinking FREE. I'm not that attached to any oil, but I'd sure give it a try for some FREE RP. Still liking the sound of FREE. I haven't seen an argument yet, that would keep me from, FREE!
I'm still thinking FREE! |
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Brighton, TN | My kinfolk live over in East texas and the price of RP, I'd be happy to just swing by and pick up all the free cases, you can get. Heck, I'd even bring a FREE case of your favorite beverage. I like Dr. Pepper. Memory Maker likes Royal Purple, FREE |
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Brighton, TN | My kinfolk live over in East texas and the price of RP, I'd be happy to just swing by and pick up all the free cases, you can get. Heck, I'd even bring a FREE case of your favorite beverage. I like Dr. Pepper. Memory Maker likes Royal Purple, FREE
Matter of fact, I got a few other machines, that would just love some free Royal Purple. If I could get that in a 55 gallon drum all the merrier my machines would be. But, not to be greedy, I'd take it a quart at a time.
Edited by pollolittle 2009-10-14 1:39 PM
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Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | Hell ya! Do the free thing. I use Wal-Mart - SuperTech Motor Oil once a year in my VV, but I like free better. |
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New Bohemia, VA | donetracey - 2009-10-14 2:52 PM Hell ya! Do the free thing. I use Wal-Mart - SuperTech Motor Oil once a year in my VV, but I like free better. Don, the way I understand it is that if I use SuperTech Motor Oil I only need to change the oil once a year! That is fantastic and for me that would be ALMOST FREE! 30,000 miles between oil changes is phenominal! Should I use the supertech filter to get that kind of mileage out of the oil, or would it be best to use the Vic? If I can get the same mileage out of the RP, I'm with the little chicken man, FREE is a great price. |
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| I'm an Amsoil dealer and run it in all of my vehicles. That being said, I would go with the free Royal Purple. Is it as good? No. But do the 2500 mile interval oil change and you should have no problems. One of the biggest advantages of Amsoil is the ability to go longer intervals before changing due to their superior base stock and additives. However I also believe that with standard changes their is no substitute for free. Even at dealer costs Amsoil is pricey. |
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Reno County, KS | You get the oil for free and don't mind changing it more frequently, who could argue with that? |
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Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | Why would you change it more frequently? I'm with Chris .... 'Once a Year' - mileage has NOTHING to do with it - with synthetics it's all about how old the oil is - not how much wear. Your filter looks after the wear problem. Just don't let dealers know this - they will lie to you. |
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| Wrong. The base stocks separate from the additives and breaks down the oil with engine wear and heat also. Yes it is much longer but it does break down. I would change it more frequently as royal purple is not truly a synthetic. It's base stock is still dino oil. Mobil One lost a law suit, blah blah, but the basics is that synthetic is too broad of a term. At least in the courts eyes so 90% or so of the oils out there that claim synthetic are not all synthetic. I do run yearly oil changes on my supercharged truck and turbocharged car but I also have bypass filter kits (http://www.amsoil.com/Storefront/bf.aspx) on both vehicles. So go with Royal Purple, just change it at 2.5k. |
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Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | Sorry, you are wrong. I have read and summarized all the oil threads on this site - and determined that you are ALL wrong. Oil is oil and your engine will quit when it's ready. |
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| I've run Royal Purple in an older hd. Since the bike went some 100k+++ miles without a problem it must be ok. HOWEVER, the dealer who was using the RP in my bike did stop selling it and now sells Mobil. He said his customers prefer the Mobil not that anything was wrong with the RP. Just my 2 cents |
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| donetracey - 2009-10-14 4:58 PM
Sorry, you are wrong. I have read and summarized all the oil threads on this site - and determined that you are ALL wrong. Oil is oil and your engine will quit when it's ready.
I hope that's a joke. Now changing your oil at 2.5k and I'll agree that it will quit when it is ready. But if you want to go longer than run Amsoil. I believe your engine will last longer with better lubricants no doubt as there is less friction, better cooling properties, etc. But running RP and changing at the normal interval is just fine. Also reading threads to gather facts is a poor choice. So many people have no idea what they are talking about. I am currently a Marine Engineering Officer and formerly produced high voltage electricity for the Army (4160V). Extensive schooling and research have lead to my conclusions. |
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Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | Re: reading threads to gather facts is a poor choice Come on, don't spoil our fun ! Someone might believe me! |
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| varyder - 2009-10-14 3:44 PM
donetracey - 2009-10-14 2:52 PM Hell ya! Do the free thing. I use Wal-Mart - SuperTech Motor Oil once a year in my VV, but I like free better. Don, the way I understand it is that if I use SuperTech Motor Oil I only need to change the oil once a year! That is fantastic and for me that would be ALMOST FREE! 30,000 miles between oil changes is phenominal! Should I use the supertech filter to get that kind of mileage out of the oil, or would it be best to use the Vic? If I can get the same mileage out of the RP, I'm with the little chicken man, FREE is a great price.
If you think you can go 30k miles on a bike without oil changes you are nutz. Bike's are hard on oil. Especially our air cooled ones. Also due to the wet clutch additives this is not normal oil. Now I would go 35k on my Amsoil if I drove that much in a year but I also have bypass filters and it is far superior to Super Tech oil. I also submit and have oil analysis done on my vehicles. Even if the oil could last that long the filter would not. Here is some excellent reading for those interested. http://www.amsoil.com/lit/G-2156.pdf
Edited by Prime Power 2009-10-14 4:51 PM
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Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | Chris, Chickenman, Dann - I am with you three on this. Pure WISDOM. Ignore all the rest..... |
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Memphis,Tn. | There's more efficient heat transfer with a "true" synthetic PAO (Group IV) basestock.
http://www.cpchem.com/enu/pao_14977.asp |
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| Yes. But it still breaks down. I have not noticed my bike running much cooler though with the Amsoil. I believe it probably cools down faster but will still reach 220. |
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Perry Hall, MD | I've been reading through the post as well, and felt comfortable with going to Mobil V-Twin. Local price $9.60 qt. Still needed a filter so I stopped in at the local Vic dealer. They had Mobil on the shelf, but recommended Castrol Actevo X-TRA 4T @ $7 (part synthetic). After all of the tech info on which oil to select for all the various reasons is it really OK to decide on price provided change intervals are 2500 miles? I did decide to go with an 8 micron filter. Is that an unnecessary expense as well? |
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LaPorte,Tx. | I used Royal Purple 20w-50 in my Kingpin for ~30,000 miles with no issues. Changed oil every 4000 miles. If you can get it free, what a deal. |
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Dallas, Texas | Well, as turns out, I can get Mobil1 V-Twin 20W/50 for slightly less reward points. Research seems to indicate that it is better.
Also, this isn't exactly free, it is using reward points that I have accumualted. I'll have to re-accumulate after I get this first case, to get more in the future. Also Royal Purple is a pure synthetic, no dino. |
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Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators | Extra Virgin synthetic olive oil stock for me. Personally I love watching a bunch of computer programmers, plumbers, teachers, and truck drivers; act like engineers. So by all means continue this discussion.
To the two of you that are trying to interject logic. Quit now, or suffer the consequences |
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Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | Chris, Chickenman, Dann, Kevin - I am with you four on this. Pure WISDOM. Ignore all the rest.....
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oil question..price vs brand
