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Cruiser
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MN. | http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/Article_Page.aspx?ArticleID=5767&Page...
Check it out. |
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Cruiser
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| That was a pretty fair write up I guess, I haven't ridden mine yet. Still in the crate. |
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Cruiser
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MN. | swiftvtx - 2008-01-14 4:29 PM
That was a pretty fair write up I guess, I haven't ridden mine yet. Still in the crate.
That's got to be as depressing as hell... |
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Visionary
Posts: 1484
LaPorte,Tx. | They made mention to a $599 Stage 1, that price indicates it is a Level 2 set up. In looking at the pictures, it looks like my Level 1 set up. Also, in one picture you can see the tach at ~3000 rpm and the volts above 14v.
I agree with most of the write up, not sure about the seat though. Rubbing the inner thigh????when shifting, that person may have needed the shifter moved back one notch, the adjustablity of the shift and brake levels was not mentioned. Yes, all Harleys ride slow, that's the way they are made, a lot their owners want a bike to ride in the parade. Me, I like the curves. |
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Iron Butt
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29 Palms California | Wow, someone actually printed it in bold writting! VICTORY VISION IS VICTORIOUS! |
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Iron Butt
Posts: 810
| I don't agree with the thigh rubbing issue. I have 3,200 miles on my Vision and haven't noticed this. The reviewers also didn't mention the HD Air Cleaner cover hitting your right leg or the wider leg position of the HDs. I think these guys are used to riding HD's more than the Vision, thus the Vision's deltas are new/strange to them. The brake thing is a bummer. To compare apples to apples, they should have compared stock brakes to stock brakes. I have noticed that the Vision's front brakes are a bit light. Tim |
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Tourer
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Scottsdale AZ | HeHeHAHA - Just forwarded this to the goofy HD guys here I ride with sometimes. My message was "see, proof is in the puddin" HEHEHAHA |
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Iron Butt
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29 Palms California | good one DJ! TimS, I don't get the inner thigh rubbing either. If I did I'd never get off of the bike! Dang this 32 inch inseam! |
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Tourer
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20 miles west of Chicago. | When I rode the demo Street, the front brake did seem like the pads were a bit too much on the hard side. The good news is that that would be pretty easy to fix with a set of LRB or EBC pads. |
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Iron Butt
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29 Palms California | i noticed it was a bit "crunchy-squeely" also. I can live with it. |
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Visionary
Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA | I do think the rider was naturally more familiar with the HD, thus the Vision was strange to him. Had he have ridden the Vision regularly for a few weeks prior and then did the comparison it may have come out different, but Vision still on top. Two things I didn't agree with, 1) I think the Vision is far more easier to handle at low speed then a GoldWing, but I find it very controlable at a crawl. So does that mean the HD is even better?, I'd have to see that for myself. 2) The rubbing thigh thing makes no sense at all and I'm curious as to whether the controls were adjusted to fit the rider, and even then I can't see that problem happening.
Bottom line for me is that this article has no influence on my decision, however, it does comfirm that I made the right choice, hands down.  |
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Iron Butt
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29 Palms California | Since I came from a HD E-GLIDE and ran to the light, my MCPV did take adjustment to handle at low to no speed. Why? Because I was use to horsing around the electra glide. It takes time and practice if you've had to muscle the big bikes around. Now, I turn my Vision around in my two car garage with ease. At first, I tried the heave-ho, grunt muscle, ops don't let it drop method. Now, since I've come to the realization (Pollolittles Wife not included) the Vision won't drop, and if it does, who cares? Once that mentality was the focus, it has become much easier to move around. I might add, much easier than the Eglide. On the inner thigh thing? He's got me baffled. Unless this guy was very short, I don't see it happening. I mean physically how do you do that? Unless he has elephantitus of the sac and inner thighs..I have a 32 in inseam, ..no probs. Can anyone clarify the "unwanted" inner thigh rubbing...keep it PG 13! I know deserjim and pollolittle will have a field day with this one... |
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Visionary
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New Bohemia, VA | You show that the ViVi is a tough competitor BuckEye. I think the main reason many would not come over to the Vision, or Victory for that matter is because they have to have the "image" of owning a harley. Friends that I have that don't ride will say, "There's the Harley rider..." even though I would be riding the Wing or now my Vision. It's the same as saying "I'll have a coke", even though they're selling pepsi. None of this really matters to me though I like the debate just to hear what others are saying. Personnally, I wanted to get an Indian, just so I could have an American made V-Twin without it being a Harley. However, my Victory dealer talked some sense in me. I perfer tourers over cruisers, though I love the look of a sharp cruiser like the T.C. For the long haul, which I perfer, it has to be a Tourer. Thank you Victory! The Vision is just right in my book and look forward to all the customizing that will be available. I do hope that the Vision sells strong so there will be good support for it for years to come. |
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Iron Butt
Posts: 904
29 Palms California | The supply is on demand! I think they will blow HD out of the water in sales for 2008. I've spoken to many of rider buddies, and on the "side" they have all told me one way or another, they have HD because of the American Heritage behind it. Same reason we all wanted a HD at some point in our lives. I've riden them my whole life. I've also paid outragous maintenance fees, for a piece of oil spewing bolt dropper. The last HD I had, I had to have the engine redone do to a cam, which wasn't recalled, which gutted my eglide right after I let the warrenty drop. That was a big mistake on my part by trusting I would be taken care of if something that bad happened. It seemed that after 30K the bike was self destructing. Spent the 5K for the engine rebuild, then it was $800 this month, 2 months later $400..and so on for two years. I still think the bikes are cool, just not cost effective. They had the market cornered, and me. I prefer 2 wheels. Once the American Made Vision Tour hit the scene, I had no other recourse after reading reviews and this web site. I went with the other AMERICAN MADE bike. I now ride the bike of my dreams everyday. |
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Tourer
Posts: 447
Cleveland, GA | I was talking to my son's sister-in-law yesterday about motorcycles. She said she liked Harleys better than anything else - didn't know why, since she's not allowed to ride yet (15 - still at home). I told her that Harley had a great marketing department. After we all got back to my place I showed her the Vision. She was stunned by its looks and fell in love with it. She said, "This is the most beautiful motorcycle I've ever seen in my life!" Very astute young lady. |
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Iron Butt
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29 Palms California | AGREED! |
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Visionary
Posts: 3204
Memphis | H-D has had a 43 year head start building on the original Electra Glide. Vision is on year #1. It's only gonna get worse.<br /> |
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Iron Butt
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29 Palms California | YYEAHH! |
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Tourer
Posts: 367
Cottage Grove, Mn | I think the rider's thighs may be too fat, maybe he/she should test ride Jenny Craig |
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Cruiser
Posts: 223
Valdosta, GA | I have a 27" inseam and the controls in the middle position on my Vision. I'm 5'7" @ 180lbs. My thighs do not rub on the seat. Truth be told, this seat is damn near the most comfortable motorcycle seat I have ever been on. 500+ miles in a day are easy and I have a herniated L5/S1 disk...
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Puddle Jumper
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| I have rode the ultra it was an '04 model it did have a more comfortable seat but they fail to mention that it is a nut roaster. It's really not something you want to ride if plan having kids any time soon. Plus the engine vibrated so bad trying to take off from a dead stop it was hard to control. The vision is the best bike I have ever riden and i only have 183 miles on mine. |
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Puddle Jumper
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| I also don't have any problem with my inner thigh rubbing. They also mentioned fit and finish was better ao the hd. Of course it is how hard is it to bolt a 40 year old fairing to a set of forks, there is no fit and finish issue my 2 year old could put it on and make it look good. I am probably being a little harsh but I think all hd's are ugly. I would not of bought a bike if victory would not have came out with the sc in 2000 and then when they came out with the vegas i had to have one but could not afford it but luckly I won one in 2006. then I heard about the vision and fell in love with it as soon as i saw it. So i traded my 2000 sc and 2006 eightball for a vision last friday and love it. The only complaint I have is the kickstand is a little hard to find but I can deal with that. |
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Iron Butt
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29 Palms California | It's on the left, just below the long floor board..LOL, are using the drop prevention for a kickstand? LOL ..yeah it's tucked back a bit, and could use a bit longer tip to grin with the heel. Like you said, easy to live with. |
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Visionary
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New Bohemia, VA | I still don't get the thigh issue. I tried to see if there was something to it a few minutes ago and nothing. The reviewer must be riding up on the radio panel to get that to get them to rub. It may take a few years to win more over to Victory, but expect all the big names, HD, Goldwing, BMW to do "radical" change, but I don't think it will get them very far being a copy cat. Hat's off to you Victory, or should I say Polaris for taking a chance and winning. I will go on to say that the announcement in February about the newest Vic will turn even more heads and grab a big market share.  |
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Cruiser
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rhode island | chaulk one up for the good guys. it must have killed these guys to give victory a win. bias is hard to beat but a victory win is very sweeeet |
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