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Goldsboro, NC | Just turned 8K miles on my Tour. Needed a new rear tire. I'm okay with that. I even knew it was going to be pricey (weird compunds, low volume, I understand).
My dealer is going to charge me $330 for the change ($215 tire, hour and a half install).
That seems to be about $80 high from what I expected.
What have y'all been charged for a new tire? Is my dealer out of line? |
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| My guy is $250 out the door. He has to compete with all the internet sites selling cheap tires. |
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Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators | MSRP for the tire is $240
Warranty labor on replacement is 1.0. Based on the standard of multiplying Warranty labor by 1.5 to get CP labor. It sounds like you are getting $25 off the tire.
Now before everyone goes crazy. Warranty time is at the VERY low end of possibility, and in many cases the mechanic LOOSES on that rate. Unfortunately there is no CP flat rate manual for Vics, or it would be used. In the auto industry it is common to find most flat rate books DOUBLE warranty time to come up with CP flat rate |
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New Bohemia, VA | make sure you run a constant 40+ in your tire for best milage.
I know my dealer would do the same thing, however, if you take them the wheel off the bike they'll do it for $35.00 flat, at least that is what is was the last time.
also, you could do a search for that tire on other tire suppliers and get it for about $190+ shipping, but hey that could bring it back up to $215.00. It is a GL1800 Goldwing tire so it is very easy to find and on sale. But no, what you said is not out of line for many places. |
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San Antonio, TX | Can you get a road hazard warranty for motorcycle tires? If yes, how much is it? |
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Fargo, ND | I know the debate rages on Car Tires and I would certainly not suggest someone else put one on their motorcycle...and I'm certainly not interested in being chastised, but....here's my story. I recently put a car tire on my Vision. It rides better than a motorcycle tire in a straight line. It does curves very nicely also. I purchased the tire for $85 plus shipping and have Harbor Freight mounting and balancing equipment, so the cost was just a labor of love. I'm 'in' for probably 25,000 to 30,000 miles for $100.
YMMV
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Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators | Flat six that is GREAT. Have you had any air pressure issues, or is the tire beeding properly?? I had not heard of a dark side Vision before. What size tire?? |
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LaPorte,Tx. | radioteacher - 2009-07-15 12:06 PM
Can you get a road hazard warranty for motorcycle tires? If yes, how much is it?
My dealer sells a road hazard tire warranty. It is like any other insurance policy, bring the tire back to them and they pro-rate the tire and then in stall a new one. It is not through the tire company. |
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Tucson, AZ | Flatsix,
What brand and size did you end up going with? When miine is due I'm going Dark Side as well. |
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Kincardine, Ontario, Canada | $250 installed with taxes in at #57's dealer |
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New Bohemia, VA | as a tip, I usually find out when the next big sale is going to be at my dealer 10% - 20% off, depending when. Like for Father's Day on the week prior stuff was 20% off so that is when I made the belt and tire purchase and saved a few dollars for my 45K service that I did myself, saving a lot on labor. I guess I'm just cheap, but not easy. |
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Pittsburgh, PA | this is the exact reason why i am going to learn how to remove the rear wheel myself and just bring them the rim and let them put a new tire on it and then balance it.. if i can change the tire myself i would and then purchase that self balancing bead stuff.. btw i have 9000 miles and my tire is still in pretty good shape.. |
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Tavares, Fl | I got 8500 miles on my rear tire, but I do mostly two up and often tow a Bunkhouse camper. I took the rear wheel off myself, bought the guage to set the belt at JP cycles, had the tire mounted at a bike shop for $30.00 and reinstalled it myself. The rear wheel adjustment was tricky but I learned it and am glad I did.... |
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Salisbury, NC | I use my unauthorized Victory mechanic to do most of my work. He is bad about letting me do most of the work, he just keeps an eye on what I'm doing and lets me know if I'm about to f-up. So far, I have learned to change the tires, wheel bearings, fork oil, clutch, drive belt and several minor things. I have worked on cars, so turning wrenches on the bike was not to bad. Even on the older bikes, Victory done a lot of thinking when they put them together so you could replace what breaks/ wears out very easy. Best thing to do is buy a service manual. A set of tires for the Vision run somewhere in the $350 range and I have never had to balance them. There is a dot somewhere on the sidewall that lines up with the valve stem. That is the light spot in the tire. Most of the time, that takes care of the balance. Your wheel should be balanced at the factory without the tire, so you are good to go once you replace the tire. ET |
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Fargo, ND |
I'll try to get some photos ready and posted on my car tire in the next day or two!
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New Bohemia, VA | Flatsix - 2009-07-15 11:18 PM
I'll try to get some photos ready and posted on my car tire in the next day or two!
I don't know why, but the thought of a car tire on the Bentley gives me the willies. I actually thought I would go there and had myself psyched up to order one. Then I got that sick feeling in the pit of my stomach like I did when I read this post.
My major concern is, what does it really do in the heat of the moment when you have to do that evasive manuever? Does the tire feel like it is fighting you back in the turns on twisties or is it going with the flow?
On the Wing (GL1200) and that tube frame that flexes I felt like I was fighting the bike to do things, like it was my skill verses the bikes ability to get me through.
With the Vision, that experiece is totally different and in even the hairiest of turns I feel like I'm along for the ride, yet in total control. I don't want to go back to that old feeling.
Just curious and still probing the idea in a very remote sort of way. |
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LaPorte,Tx. | Having the Victory dealer change the tire is going to be high cost, unless you have a prepaid maintenance contract. The ~$200 for the rear tire is pretty normal, I can get it for $199 here in my area at a motorcycle tire shop. If I bring them the rim, its is $35 to change the tire. If I bring in the bike it is $65. When I had my Kingpin I had the dealer put on my first back tire, and the last. Cost ~$350.00.
For those that want to remove the rear tire, it is pretty simple, you can have it off in 10 minutes. Putting it back on is a little longer and advise to have an extra pair of hands there to help, but one person can do it. I have some pictures posted on my gallary that shows the process.
varyder, if your thinking about running a car tire, don't fret about it, for ~$100 you might as well try it. If you don't like it, take it off. It's not like your throwing on a 10" wide tire on back there. With the 5" rim on the Vision you have to run a tire with about the same cross section as the E-3 which is ~7". Flatsix, what is the tire size that you put on? |
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Ruskin, Fl | I have the Safeguard tire and wheel protection. It was $399 for 5 years. Covers a new tire plus labor even if you just pick up a nail. The catch is there must be at least 3/32 tread left. I have had two rear flats in the 17,000 miles and both have been covered. I'm 200 bucks ahead and still have four years left on the contract. It also will cover a new wheel it you hit something in the road and damage it. |
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Goldsboro, NC | Thanks, all you guys for the responses. I have not generally been very happy with my dealer, so I'm immedialtely suspicious. (I'm the guy who bought a tour converted from a street.... and now have a separate key for the trunk... errrg) Thank gawd I love the bike so much that I can overlook the few little things.
At any rate, $330 to change the tire out may be a smidge high, but not out of line.
Thanks again. |
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Northeast Ohio | cw1115 - 2009-07-16 9:58 AM
I have the Safeguard tire and wheel protection. It was $399 for 5 years. Covers a new tire plus labor even if you just pick up a nail. The catch is there must be at least 3/32 tread left. I have had two rear flats in the 17,000 miles and both have been covered. I'm 200 bucks ahead and still have four years left on the contract. It also will cover a new wheel it you hit something in the road and damage it.
Michael,
How does it work if you have less than 3/32 on the center but more on the edge?
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San Antonio, TX | Michael,
Thanks for the response. I almost forgot I asked it. Where can I sign up for Safeguard if I want it?
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Ruskin, Fl | Not sure. I thing it has alot to do with the dealer. I had it on my yamaha and the service tech was being a jerk. It was right on the 3/32" line. Went and got the manager. He didn't even look and told him to give me a new tire. If it is obvious that the tire is worn out you are not covered. As far as where to get it. The Victory dealer I bought the bike from gave me a run around so I went back to the Yamaha dealer and they wrote the policy for me. I think if you don't get it when you buy the bike there is a 30 waiting period before it takes effect. When I get home I'll find the webite for you, they might have a list of agents that can sell you a policy.
Edited by cw1115 2009-07-16 1:58 PM
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| trailbarge - 2009-07-15 11:24 AM
Just turned 8K miles on my Tour. Needed a new rear tire. I'm okay with that. I even knew it was going to be pricey (weird compunds, low volume, I understand).
My dealer is going to charge me $330 for the change ($215 tire, hour and a half install).
That seems to be about $80 high from what I expected.
What have y'all been charged for a new tire? Is my dealer out of line?
You can order the tire from Dennis Kirk and have it 2 days later for $186 total. So you are really paying your dealer $144 for a 45 minute job. And before anyone claims it takes longer, the local Yammie dealer changed mine in 45 minutes (rolled into the shop and back out ready to go) and charged $70...
I think you are getting ripped personally....But there are people that pay $89 for an oil change on the Vision too....I guess it depends on how hard you want to get boned.
On a related issue....You need to make sure you are right around 40 psi always on that rear tire....I ride like a total ass and still got 12,500 out of my rear tire. It is all about the psi. I keep mine about 42/41 to 41/40. I don't let the rear or front go below 40. I have 19,000 on the front tire with a few thousand left. Unfortunately, will be doing 4,500 miles here in about 10 days for Sturgis and Billings....So I have to replace that sucker early. But wearing out a rear on a Vision in less than 10,000 miles has got to be too many burnouts, or low air pressure....
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New Bohemia, VA | gopher, I mean golfer, I like your eloquence. I'm ready to go to Sturis, but I don't have the days to take. enjoy! |
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Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators | golfer - 2009-07-16 2:07 PM
You can order the tire from Dennis Kirk and have it 2 days later for $186 total. So you are really paying your dealer $144 for a 45 minute job. And before anyone claims it takes longer, the local Yammie dealer changed mine in 45 minutes (rolled into the shop and back out ready to go) and charged $70...
, and when the good mechanics leave the dealer you have nobody to blame, but yourself. That way you van have a wet behind the ears kid doing the crucial stuff to your bike. Then again since the deler went out of bussines because he was not allowed a reasonable profit. It won't matter. |
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WOW - is this out of line?
