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cag3506
Posted 2009-03-14 4:59 PM (#30176)
Subject: WOW! Clutch gone at 1200 miles


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 29
I noticed about 1000 miles the distance between the clutch releasing grew further and further. Since
I was having pipes put on that next week. I would have dealer check it out. Never made it in. I got stranded
10 miles out of town with no clutch??? Dealer said plates where totally shot. Here is the kicker. Polaris WILL NOT COVER THIS. Has any one heard of this problem before. I do not ride hard, I do not ride clutch. They said must be user abuse. I have been riding for over 40 years and never replaced a clutch. I still have 2 bikes with over 75000 miles each with no clutch problems. I can not believe a bike costing $23000 is having a clutch problem at 1000 miles. I AM NOT A HAPPY CAMPER.
It will cost about $900. OUCH Thanks for any input.
Craig
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VisionTex
Posted 2009-03-14 6:39 PM (#30179 - in reply to #30176)
Subject: RE: WOW! Clutch gone at 1200 miles


Visionary

Posts: 1484
LaPorte,Tx.
Go here and open the service manual. http://www.vision-riders.com/bb/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=1924&pos... Read up on the clutch, if you haven't already. If you've been riding for 40 years you probably know a good independant mechanic that you trust. Have him read the service manual on the clutch. Then go to the service department and look at the parts to see if your mechanic agrees the clutch is bad. If he doesn't, then talk to the owner.
I have to ask, who did the 500 mile service on the bike? If it was not the dealer and the wrong oil viscocity or an additive was put into the bike, that maybe why the clutch has an issue.
Good luck on getting back on the road.
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etspastimes
Posted 2009-03-14 6:39 PM (#30180 - in reply to #30176)
Subject: Re: WOW! Clutch gone at 1200 miles


Tourer

Posts: 388
Salisbury, NC
Craig, not sure what may have happened to the clutch, but you can get new clutchs at Barrnetts for less than $100 and the gasket should not be too bad. ET
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VisionTex
Posted 2009-03-14 6:42 PM (#30181 - in reply to #30176)
Subject: RE: WOW! Clutch gone at 1200 miles


Visionary

Posts: 1484
LaPorte,Tx.
Double post

Edited by VisionTex 2009-03-14 6:44 PM
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varyder
Posted 2009-03-14 8:11 PM (#30185 - in reply to #30176)
Subject: RE: WOW! Clutch gone at 1200 miles


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
caq3506, sorry to hear about this. Not doubting your claim but I don't think you're telling us everything. Do I care? not really, but if you say your clutch is gone in 1,000 miles then something else had to be going on. Is that the new miles, or since you've owned and it is a used bike? Are you just pulling our leg to get folks rawled up. I'm just saying under the circumstances that you are describing you would have noticed much more than just the clutch shot, that would have cause some major friction and some other issues. And that being the case, new, then it should be under warranty and Polaris WILL COVER THIS. Come on, fess up.
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Flatsix
Posted 2009-03-14 9:40 PM (#30195 - in reply to #30185)
Subject: RE: WOW! Clutch gone at 1200 miles


Tourer

Posts: 412
Fargo, ND

 

Hey Varyder...you da Man!

I agree wholehartedly and think you have a very good nose!

 

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wjoel
Posted 2009-03-14 9:48 PM (#30196 - in reply to #30176)
Subject: RE: WOW! Clutch gone at 1200 miles


Tourer

Posts: 447
Northeastern Penna.
Never heard of such a thing, here with the Vision in it's early stages,or any bike that was new,for that matter. The friction zone on my clutch is the same now, at 2200mi. as it was the 1st day I drove it home.
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smadge
Posted 2009-03-14 10:39 PM (#30199 - in reply to #30196)
Subject: Re: WOW! Clutch gone at 1200 miles


Cruiser

Posts: 125
Kerrville Texas ( now a homeowner on six acres)
22000 miles in all kinds of terrain and all kinds of weather and as far as I know there has never been anything but the (normal) adjustments at the scheduled mainenance periods.

I believe victory has at least a ONE YEAR warranty!
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devilboy
Posted 2009-03-15 12:28 AM (#30205 - in reply to #30199)
Subject: Re: WOW! Clutch gone at 1200 miles


Cruiser

Posts: 296
Central Florida
smadge - 2009-03-14 10:39 PM

22000 miles in all kinds of terrain and all kinds of weather and as far as I know there has never been anything but the (normal) adjustments at the scheduled mainenance periods.

I believe victory has at least a ONE YEAR warranty!


Clutch has No adjustments...
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donetracey
Posted 2009-03-15 2:27 AM (#30206 - in reply to #30205)
Subject: Re: WOW! Clutch gone at 1200 miles


Visionary

Posts: 2118
Pitt Meadows, BC Canada
You'd think somethings wrong. Fer sure. This goes against my 50 years of many bikes.
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af goalie
Posted 2009-03-15 4:34 AM (#30209 - in reply to #30206)
Subject: Re: WOW! Clutch gone at 1200 miles


Cruiser

Posts: 203
Rapid City, SD
He posted the same story elsewhere. This is his first post. If he is truely having problems then he should work it out with the dealership or Victory directly. Regardless of how you ride it, it should be covered by warranty if it is that new. Beyond that, I put on 7K miles on my red Vision in 6 months and am loving it.
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varyder
Posted 2009-03-15 4:59 AM (#30210 - in reply to #30209)
Subject: Re: WOW! Clutch gone at 1200 miles


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA

Well AF, that makes me wonder if he'll ever come back to substantiate his claim, until then we can talk behind his back in front of him. It seems to be many Brand X riders, owners, posers ect... that feel compelled to spew worthless babble about other peoples bikes and love their new target, the Vision. I don't think any of us need to thrive off of a forum and I'm by far one of the busier ones on this forum, but it would be good to have a place to share info and a laugh alittle without these kind of people. But, the fact remains they are all a part of the process, sadly, and I don't have a problem calling them out.

These guys are everywhere though and they are just those people who have nothing else to do but to bust on other people stuff or way of life or both if you don't have what they have or live like them. Punk is the appropriate term if I would describe them.

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radioteacher
Posted 2009-03-15 7:19 AM (#30214 - in reply to #30176)
Subject: WOW! Squaring off with your dealer will get you a warranty repair not posting messages.


Visionary

Posts: 3006
San Antonio, TX
cag3506,

Please post your city and state, the make and year of your Victory, you dealers name, the last four digits of your VIN, the date that your Victory left the factory (it is on the paperwork that you received when you bought your Victory), your purchase date, and a picture of you with your bike in the gallery.

Having the information above will help the members of this forum keep up with tendencies of the Vision over time. Some of its members, like me, make mental notes of the repairs and warranty work done that other members have had done.

A member here, GAgirlTrixie, had clutch problems at 11,000 miles and had the clutch replaced under warranty. I am sure you can do the same. If your clutch did wear out......get it replaced under warranty.

Posting a message here will at most, get you empathetic sympathy and responses from its members. Squaring off with your dealer will get you a warranty repair.

By the way, If you are just trying to get this forum up in arms you are going to have to try harder than, "WOW much clutch failed at 1200 miles!".

To stir up the group I would suggest a topic on a common household appliance that can be described as a large cylindrical tank that is used to heat and store heated water for future use or a replacement of that device with one that can make heated water on demand.

Nothing but love for everyone here.

Wash in warm but not hot water and ride safe!

Edited by radioteacher 2009-03-15 7:20 AM
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cw1115
Posted 2009-03-15 7:36 AM (#30215 - in reply to #30176)
Subject: Re: WOW! Clutch gone at 1200 miles


Visionary

Posts: 1290
Ruskin, Fl
Sorry to hear about your trouble. I'm hard on my clutch and have 14,000 trouble free miles.
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rdbudd
Posted 2009-03-15 10:22 AM (#30223 - in reply to #30176)
Subject: RE: WOW! Clutch gone at 1200 miles


Visionary

Posts: 1632
Jasper, MO
I think Varyder smelled this one correctly. Troll. Probably someone who has never ridden any Victory motorcycle, much less a Vision. The story just doesn't make ANY sense whatsoever. It wouldn't even matter if the story was about a Honda or Harley, instead of a Victory Vision either, it still wouldn't make sense. Probably a 15 year old kid with nothing better to do than try to stir up forums. It's either that or an owner of a competing brand that is very insecure and has a 15 year old's mentality.

Ronnie
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cag3506
Posted 2009-03-15 10:29 AM (#30224 - in reply to #30176)
Subject: RE: WOW! Clutch gone at 1200 miles


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 29
I just found out about clutch SAT. afternoon. I guess I was so hot I forgot to post bike INFO. I bought
08 tour premium Vision in JAN from an individual in AZ with 400 miles on it. He had the warranty
work done in Prescott, AZ. I saw work ticket. The dealer where i live ( Topeka, Ks) spent 1 hour on
the phone with Polais with no success. I will get clutch replaced myself for now ( I miss riding).
I think I figured out that clutch failed because of all the steep mountain roads in Kansas. I hope
this is just a rare thing that happened and it is smooth sailing from here on out. I really like bike and
plan on putting 100000000 of miles on it. I had no noise from clutch area at all. I just noticed extra play in lever at 1000 miles . 2 days later it was gone. I know 2 guys with over 50000 on there Vision
with no problems at all. ( yes I am new to posting)
Thanks
Craig
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kenhiggins
Posted 2009-03-15 11:38 AM (#30231 - in reply to #30176)
Subject: Re: WOW! Clutch gone at 1200 miles


Cruiser

Posts: 249
Montreal, QC Canada
Radioteacher, Is this what you need to stir things up? Hope you are doing well. Been watching the weather and we hate you. lol

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divesharc
Posted 2009-03-15 2:33 PM (#30241 - in reply to #30176)
Subject: Re: WOW! Clutch gone at 1200 miles


Cruiser

Posts: 297
VA
Radio...just when I thought people had forgotten. Damn, I laughed out loud when I read that post. I admit, I was one of the longer repliers to that post. But, I swear, I just thought everyone should know about the benefits of washing the Vision in hot water...for as long as you want to!!! Got to go, my hands are pruning.


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Miles
Posted 2009-03-15 4:04 PM (#30245 - in reply to #30241)
Subject: Re: WOW! Clutch gone at 1200 miles


Tourer

Posts: 548
Mount Vernon, WA United States
"I noticed about 1000 miles the distance between the clutch releasing grew further and further. "

Is NOT indicative of a bad clutch, but rather a bad clutch cable. The feel of the release shouldn't change at all. What will be different is when you let out the clutch lever you rev the engine and just sit there. Slippage is the symptom leading up to that point, where the lever is out, but the bike is revving and your only slowly moving forward. This starts out sutbtle on hard shifts... and it won't effect slack in the cable at all.

Now one way to wear out a clutch is if the cable is accidentally adjusted incorrectly. Where it's rubbing even when fully engaged (lever fully released). Again, it will wear out the clutch, but you won't feel anything different in your grip. The clutch will just be "slipping" every time to take off, until one time you rev up and just sit there.

While it is totally possible to maybe have a misaligned clutch in the bike, or some other mechanical malfunction in the clutch/drive train, and that sucks, and it should be covered under warranty, there are different symptoms.

I'm not challenging you, but I have a hard time believing a properly functioning clutch can be destroyed in 1200 miles with abuse. I think it could be damaged, I think you could get it so start slipping, I think you could tear up the cable, but I don't think you could get it to fail if it was working properly to start off.

Does the Vision have a hydrolic clutch?? I don't have one... If that's the case... it's all the same.. in fact if hydrolic, you really won't feel any change in the lever as it adjusts automatically to the play of the clutch. Again... slippage first, then no go.
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SongFan
Posted 2009-03-15 4:16 PM (#30247 - in reply to #30176)
Subject: RE: WOW! Clutch gone at 1200 miles


Visionary

Posts: 3204
Memphis

Miles - Hydraulic clutch/brakes.  No cables.

My theory is that he forgot to mention that he is a "Ride Like a Pro" instructor and put the first 1000 miles on the bike in a parking lot, in the friction zone.  Just a theory.

p.s. His rear brake should be toast shortly.



Edited by SongFan 2009-03-15 4:19 PM
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varyder
Posted 2009-03-15 4:25 PM (#30248 - in reply to #30245)
Subject: Re: WOW! Clutch gone at 1200 miles


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA

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Edited by varyder 2009-03-15 4:53 PM
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SongFan
Posted 2009-03-15 4:38 PM (#30249 - in reply to #30176)
Subject: RE: WOW! Clutch gone at 1200 miles


Visionary

Posts: 3204
Memphis

Craig,

I messed with you earlier but that fact is I believe your story.  I think the trouble started with the orginal owner during the first 400 miles.  He could have abused it and it wouldn't fail until later.  (The fact that he sold a Vision within 400 miles shows he wasn't right to begin with.)  The guy who took the very first Vision to England had a catastrophic engine failure almost immediately and I'm sure that was a huge embarrasment to Victory. 

I don't think the clutch failure was your fault but we've never seen it so soon.  Keep us posted, good luck.

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varyder
Posted 2009-03-15 4:46 PM (#30252 - in reply to #30249)
Subject: RE: WOW! Clutch gone at 1200 miles


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA



Edited by varyder 2009-03-15 4:48 PM
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SongFan
Posted 2009-03-15 4:50 PM (#30253 - in reply to #30176)
Subject: RE: WOW! Clutch gone at 1200 miles


Visionary

Posts: 3204
Memphis



Edited by SongFan 2009-03-15 4:54 PM
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radioteacher
Posted 2009-03-15 5:18 PM (#30255 - in reply to #30176)
Subject: Re: WOW! Clutch gone at 1200 miles


Visionary

Posts: 3006
San Antonio, TX
Craig,

I am sure Troy and Nick at Free State in Topeka will do what they can to fix you up. Did you get the red or blue 08 Vision?

Ride Safe!
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