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Wizard523
Posted 2008-11-24 2:54 PM (#23873)
Subject: Tip Over Protection


Tourer

Posts: 506
Woodland Hills, CA
We all know about the great tip over protection of the Vision through what we have read and seen in photos. Some even have had the chance (misfortune?) to experience it first hand. Well I can now say, somewhat embarrassingly, that I am now in the latter group.

I recently had an occasion while riding with my SO to make a sudden sharp turn in a parking lot, and over it went. My SO just sat there on the back, holding on the handles, asking "what do you want me to do". I asked her to just step off, after which I uprighted the bike, and we went on our way, with many interesting (and mostly unflattering) comments flowing in through the helmet speakers for the next several miles.

So now I can add my name to the list of unfortunate (unskilled?) riders who has tested the tip overs, and I am here to say they work great. I am also here to say I will be doing much more parking lot practice in the near future.

Ride safe!
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varyder
Posted 2008-11-24 3:30 PM (#23876 - in reply to #23873)
Subject: RE: Tip Over Protection


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
Thanks Wiz. I constantly remind my wife that if I drop the bike just hang on to the handles and ride it out.
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af goalie
Posted 2008-11-24 5:01 PM (#23879 - in reply to #23873)
Subject: Re: Tip Over Protection


Cruiser

Posts: 203
Rapid City, SD
Successfully tested mine twice. Only one witness in a cage. Probably laughed himself all the way home that day at my expense. Well only expense was a bit of pride since the tip over bars saved any expense to the bike. yay.
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Flatsix
Posted 2008-11-24 5:34 PM (#23883 - in reply to #23873)
Subject: RE: Tip Over Protection


Tourer

Posts: 412
Fargo, ND

 

Unfortunately I have to chime in here also...The tip over protection does work nicely.

A few of us were in a gas station and making a very slow turn, no problem.  I was doing 1 - 2 mph and a friend cut in front of me.  I grabbed the front brake and that's when we hit the deck and I was quickly reminded...

If you are going slow and your handlebars are turned either direction use the rear brake only.  Do Not use the front brake when turning at slow speed!

 

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etspastimes
Posted 2008-11-24 7:10 PM (#23888 - in reply to #23873)
Subject: Re: Tip Over Protection


Tourer

Posts: 388
Salisbury, NC
I have used the tip over protection (TOP) on a couple of different types of oh ohs. The first time it was used was when I was putting on my rain suit and the wind just blew the bike over. I was on the side of the interstate down in Jacksonville. Seen the bad looking black cloud and knew I needed to get ready for it. So I pulled over and suited up. The wind was blowing around 50 in gusts according to the radio. Stunned me because I just stood there and watched it fall over. Picked it up, no damage. I thought, damn that is cool.
The second time the "TOP" was used, I had a 12 year old kid from a children home on back. The CBA was giving rides down at a children home in Concord, NC. There was a loop through the complex that we had been riding most of the day. At one of the intersections, there was a place that a dump truck had pushed up the asphalt. Well I hit that running around 20-25 mph. The bike shot up in the air and turned in midair. I landed sideways and stopped on the "TOP" still in the seat, both of us, the kid on back going ALL RiGHT Let's Do that AgaIn, and me thinking aw sh*t that was close. Needless to say, that was my last ride of the day. But I am glad that Victory built that into the bike. ET
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STARSHIP 1
Posted 2008-11-24 8:34 PM (#23893 - in reply to #23873)
Subject: Re: Tip Over Protection


Cruiser

Posts: 137
Houston, Texas
Adding my tale.....had the STARSHIP about two weeks and stopped for a bite at a local bike hangout (showing off the STARSHIP)...thought I had engaged the stand with my boot, stepped off and the STARSHIP followed me. Though an embarrassing moment, the crowd gathered on the deck came out to help me right the STARSHIP and were amazed that it stopped where it did. They were impressed.

My ONE complaint in the design of the Vision.......the kickstand has an almost non-existent nob that is not friendly.
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Trekwolf164
Posted 2008-11-25 5:57 PM (#23942 - in reply to #23873)
Subject: Re: Tip Over Protection


Iron Butt

Posts: 965
New York State
Have never laid my Vision down but did park the Demo bike on an incline and inadvertently tested the Tip over protection
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Joe H
Posted 2008-11-25 6:13 PM (#23944 - in reply to #23873)
Subject: Re: Tip Over Protection


Cruiser

Posts: 72
Eyota, MN
I occationally tip mine over just to show people and see there reaction it's awesome!!!!
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clubford00
Posted 2008-11-25 6:23 PM (#23948 - in reply to #23873)
Subject: Re: Tip Over Protection


Tourer

Posts: 301
Buffalo Grove,Ill
Does anyone know of a video of the tip over pro, in action? and i dont mean just sitting on the side i mean a vid of one actually dropping onto the side? I d like to see that.
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Lotzafun
Posted 2008-11-25 6:31 PM (#23950 - in reply to #23873)
Subject: Re: Tip Over Protection


Iron Butt

Posts: 935
Rockford, IL
I have tipped mine on purpose a few times, makes it much easier to mess with the mufflers and a few other items. But I have done this fairly gingerly though. However I have wondered what would happen if the bike was just completely "dropped" from a unloaded upright position. I'm talking "let go of the handlebars and let it flop" type drop, no human input to help slow it or anything. Do the tipovers still function 100% as expected? Or could the bike possibly continue tipping past the tipovers?

Anyone wish to test this theory?
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clubford00
Posted 2008-11-25 6:41 PM (#23952 - in reply to #23873)
Subject: Re: Tip Over Protection


Tourer

Posts: 301
Buffalo Grove,Ill
+ 1
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SongFan
Posted 2008-11-25 7:06 PM (#23953 - in reply to #23873)
Subject: RE: Tip Over Protection


Visionary

Posts: 3204
Memphis

If you dropped the Vision from straight up and down on a flat surface and didn't try to stop it, it will not go past the tip-overs.  Once it is laying down, it is almost impossible to pull on the upper handlebar hard enough to get the wheels off the ground.  You would probably bend or break something trying.

 

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Wizard523
Posted 2008-11-25 7:23 PM (#23954 - in reply to #23948)
Subject: Re: Tip Over Protection


Tourer

Posts: 506
Woodland Hills, CA
clubford00 - 2008-11-25 3:23 PM

Does anyone know of a video of the tip over pro, in action? and i dont mean just sitting on the side i mean a vid of one actually dropping onto the side? I d like to see that.


I have seen a demo video where the bike is actually dropped and picked up again a couple of times, but I can't remember where I saw it. They even put weight on the handlebars while it was down trying to get it to turn over onto the bars, and it wouldn't budge. I will try to find the video, and if I do I will post the link here.
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clubford00
Posted 2008-11-25 7:38 PM (#23955 - in reply to #23873)
Subject: Re: Tip Over Protection


Tourer

Posts: 301
Buffalo Grove,Ill
T Y
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excelboy10
Posted 2008-11-25 7:41 PM (#23956 - in reply to #23873)
Subject: RE: Tip Over Protection


Cruiser

Posts: 143
Birmingham, AL 08 MC Tour Premium 2012 Bronze Mist
I made the mistake of trying them out on my lawn, thinking it would be better than dropping it on the driveway, WRONG! Both front and rear dug into the ground a little and allowed the fairing around the mirror to hit the ground and collect a little earth in the gap.
It was really easy to upright though. I should have tried my little experiment on a hard surface and had more faith.
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okthenbye
Posted 2008-11-25 7:55 PM (#23958 - in reply to #23873)
Subject: Re: Tip Over Protection


Cruiser

Posts: 266
Stockton, Ca.
Tip over protection is only good on a level surface with no additional weight on the top of the bike i.e. travel bag on top of the rear trunk rack. Mine went over on an incline. It went right past the tip over protection and the faring around the left mirror and rear left saddle bag took the brunt of the fall. Scratches all over the bag and mirror faring. The challenge was finding a paint shop to fix the scratches, the next challenge was mixing the correct paint match. Polaris does not publish paint codes, (they want you to buy their paint). The body shop finally did get the missing candy colors to match the paint and they did a perfect job. Since I was having some paint work done I gave them my access panel to paint as well. Looks much better painted than chrome. Anyone want a chrome access panel? Anyway the f@#!-up cost me $600.00 but the bike looks better than ever!
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ElroyJ
Posted 2008-11-25 7:59 PM (#23959 - in reply to #23873)
Subject: RE: Tip Over Protection


Tourer

Posts: 460
Centennial, CO
I am very bummed...
I had the misfortune and worse, a crack in the fairing next to the front tip over. Still unsure what is going to happen.
I figured it should be corrected under warranty due to the fact this is a HUGE selling point they make when trying to get you to drop dough on their palm.
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clubford00
Posted 2008-11-25 8:53 PM (#23964 - in reply to #23873)
Subject: Re: Tip Over Protection


Tourer

Posts: 301
Buffalo Grove,Ill
No offense to Excell but to drop your bike (grass or not) just to see if something works is kinda dumb. When you got your car did you run it into a wall to see if the airbags work. There are some things you must just take on faith.
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varyder
Posted 2008-11-25 10:13 PM (#23975 - in reply to #23964)
Subject: Re: Tip Over Protection


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
Okay, Everybody stop right now! Now listen up, if you keep on dropping your Vision to prove your tip overs (TOP) you will have bigger problems on your hands, like a cracked engine block! (CEB) There was a post on here a while back that someone said they really enjoyed demonstrating that feature, but they paid for in the end. You've been warned, so don't come back later and say you weren't told. Them things are made to catch when you can't keep it up and you have to let it fall, they are not made to drop, bam, boom. It pains me to hear of a Vision getting mistreated like this and I will report you to the ETOVA (Ethical Treatment of Visions Agency, or something like that). If you want to drop something, go find you and old electra glide.
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Crawford
Posted 2008-11-25 10:24 PM (#23977 - in reply to #23873)
Subject: Re: Tip Over Protection


Tourer

Posts: 340
Regina Saskatchewan Canada
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=or_JhhwCYrQ

Tip over video
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varyder
Posted 2008-11-25 11:23 PM (#23988 - in reply to #23977)
Subject: Re: Tip Over Protection


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
Cool, but I thought you had one of a real drop, not something from the HOGNet.
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clubford00
Posted 2008-11-26 12:14 AM (#23996 - in reply to #23873)
Subject: Re: Tip Over Protection


Tourer

Posts: 301
Buffalo Grove,Ill
Yeah, what he said. except for the Hog part.
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cjnoho
Posted 2008-11-27 2:44 AM (#24054 - in reply to #23873)
Subject: Re: Tip Over Protection


Visionary

Posts: 1324
So Cal
Even though you all say they work. I have a hard time dropping my bike intentionally. IF and WHEN it happens, I will report my results. ' til then I'll do my best to keep things upright.
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focushere
Posted 2008-11-27 7:11 AM (#24063 - in reply to #23873)
Subject: Re: Tip Over Protection


Cruiser

Posts: 59
I wasn't paying attention to the kickstand while cleaning the wheels and while scooting the bike forward the kickstand went in the up position and down went the bike. One of the the tip over points landed on my foot and was wearing tennis shoes. Believe me that much weight concentrated on such a small area will bring on some serious pain. And, because I was facing the bike it took everything I had to lift it. So moral of the story is if it goes down make sure you don't have one of those tip over points land on you. OUCH!

Edited by focushere 2008-11-27 7:16 AM
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DecTec
Posted 2008-11-27 10:05 AM (#24077 - in reply to #24063)
Subject: Re: Tip Over Protection


Cruiser

Posts: 59
Pocono Mountains of PA

As noted on another post ( and attestes to), I got the second nickname of "Slider" due to the praise of the tip overs.

On the V2V leg last summer, I took a left at an intersection in NJ at around 25 mph and the rear tire locked and kicked out.  Down I went and slid accross the intersection, still in the seat.  The crew behind me stopped as well as the PD and a growd that were waiting to turn the corner.  We picked up my Vision and there was no damage, except a scrape under the rear tip over that can not be seen. Everyone was amazes and we all remounted and continued the leg of the trip.

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