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Iron Butt
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Broken Arrow, OK | So Dunlop has announced it's new and improved Elite 3 Rear tire for our bikes and Goldwings.
A Multi tread compound for a longer lasting tire.
http://www.chaparral-racing.com/Product/dunlop-elite-3-mt-radial-to... |
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Iron Butt
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Perry Hall, MD | Nice, I on a trial darkside now, but can't say that I'm the biggest fan and could consider the new E3. While on the site I took notice of the Michelin Commander II. Anyone know if this an option for Vision riders? |
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Puddle Jumper
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Leighton, IA | Lennyb,
lstayner is riding on the Commander II and is on his second set. He told me that he really likes them and they give him excellent performance and long wear. He also highly recommends Centramatic wheel balancers. I'm going to give the Commanders a try after my E3's are worn out. I should be able to get another 5-7K out of my E3 so it will be a little while. I will probably put on Centramatics in the next month or two. (Cash flow going in the wrong direction right now.)
Remember that the Commander is a Bias Ply tire so you should replace both the front and rear if you are considering changing from a Radial.
Hopefully, Larry (lstayner) will read this and give you his thoughts on the subject. |
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Visionary
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New Bohemia, VA | Woot, woot, I'll be ordering the new e3 soon. |
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Visionary
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Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | Yeah - time for my bi-annual free weekend in northern Washington State - you know... the one where I save so much money buying my tires there, that it pays for a 3 day weekend with meals and accommodations. ($1,000 in Canada - $600 in WA. =$400 for having fun).
Almost sad to think I would have to stretch it to tri-annual if the tires last longer !!! |
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Cruiser
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| I went with Avon cobra about a month ago. I haven't put many miles on but I'm pleased so far.
Avon Offers Cobra Tire Combination For Victory Motorcycles
http://www.avonmoto.com/blog/4465
Edited by boatsrfun 2013-06-03 6:05 AM
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Iron Butt
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| boatsrfun - 2013-06-03 4:03 AM
I went with Avon cobra about a month ago. I haven't put many miles on but I'm pleased so far.
Avon Offers Cobra Tire Combination For Victory Motorcycles
http://www.avonmoto.com/blog/4465
I'm running cobras as well and they really work well. Watch out for the rear, 7000 miles give or take is all its good for.
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Iron Butt
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| Does anyone know for definite where the E3 howl comes from, front or rear?
Marc |
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Visionary
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New Bohemia, VA | rear, negligible from the front... |
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Iron Butt
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| Thanks Chris.
Marc |
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Iron Butt
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| On my third set of E3's on this bike.... Never heard 'em howl |
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Iron Butt
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| Consider yourself very, very fortunate. It'll drive you nuts.
Marc |
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Visionary
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New Bohemia, VA | love to hear the them howl. The louder they howl only means the harder I'm ridin'... |
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Tourer
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Central Illinois | I had a howl on Dunlops on my HD with even a mild lean into a turn once they had a bit of wear on them. My guess is that it comes from the slight cupping effect at each side wall tread groove. It definitely got me to check my tires long before they needed any attention . |
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Cruiser
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Bancroft Ontario, Canada | They would have to be much better than the existing 3's.....i am sick of the howl, cupping and lack of milage....i have just went DS with 185 Hankook and love it so far.....may change my mind as i ride and tire wear shows up....don`t know what MT i would go back to...
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Iron Butt
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Peru, IN | My next rear tire will probably be a CT but if I stuck with a M/C tire it would have to be one of the multi compound tires. The days of single compound rear tires are gone (or should be), especially on the heavier bikes. |
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Iron Butt
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| VBear - 2013-06-04 4:44 AM
They would have to be much better than the existing 3's.....i am sick of the howl, cupping and lack of milage....i have just went DS with 185 Hankook and love it so far.....may change my mind as i ride and tire wear shows up....don`t know what MT i would go back to...
Bear
My experience with the E3's is polar opposite of yours.
Howl = NO
Cupping = NO
Mileage = YES (averaging 16k+ from rear)
But, I keep them aired up properly.... ( 41 rear, 38 front, set in the morning, in my garage, before the bike ever moves). Once the bike starts rolling the mile or two down to the gas station to set pressure, you've already thrown the readings off by as much as 5psi.
Several years ago, I did have an E3 front tire cup on my old Kingpin, but I don't think I was airing them up adequately back then. I think I had it around 32-34psi.
Edited by Turk 2013-06-04 6:57 AM
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Iron Butt
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Broken Arrow, OK | I'm an air pressure freak too, Turk. You know I ride 2 up, trunk and bags and rack loaded all the time.
I got 8K on the E3 before I couldn't take it anymore. Howl started at less than 3K. Go figure |
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Cruiser
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| I just ordered a set today. We shall see. |
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Visionary
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Jasper, MO | okie vision - 2013-06-04 9:11 AM
I'm an air pressure freak too, Turk. You know I ride 2 up, trunk and bags and rack loaded all the time.
I got 8K on the E3 before I couldn't take it anymore. Howl started at less than 3K. Go figure
Same here. I switched to Bridgestones the last time precisely because of the cupping and attendant howling of the Dunlop E3s. We like the curvy backroads and the constant howling was driving me nuts.
I hope the new and improved E3s will address that problem. If they last longer, but howl longer too, they are not for me.
Dual compound tires are becoming more common. They have become popular in the sport bike sizes. There will be other choices in the touring bike sizes too.
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Visionary
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Central Maryland | My E3's howl a bit... but that's OK because it works in tandem with the lone wolf clutch cover that I have; howling at the moon.  |
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Visionary
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Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators | Turk - 2013-06-03 6:54 PM
On my third set of E3's on this bike.... Never heard 'em howl
Me either, but I keep my shock pressure high
Edited by kevinx 2013-06-04 2:23 PM
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Cruiser
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Nor Cali | kevinx - 2013-06-04 12:23 PM Turk - 2013-06-03 6:54 PM On my third set of E3's on this bike.... Never heard 'em howl Me either, but I keep my shock pressure high Never heard them "Howl" either...but I'm listening to music anyway.
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Iron Butt
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Peru, IN | I've got a little under 5k miles on my Vision and I don't think I've heard the tires howl yet. I'm pretty particular about tire pressure and they're not cupping (yet) so maybe that's it. |
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Tourer
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Prairie City, IA United States | lennyb - 2013-06-02 8:18 PM
Nice, I on a trial darkside now, but can't say that I'm the biggest fan and could consider the new E3. While on the site I took notice of the Michelin Commander II. Anyone know if this an option for Vision riders?
I am on my 2nd Commander II rear and 1st front Commander II. My front tire wore out so I decided to change the rear at 22.5 K. I think there was another 3k left on it but wanted to start with a new set. I have added the Centramatic wheel balancers this time around. Another one of our members tried the Commander with the Centramatics and when I spoke with last week about the tire and balancers, I think he was very happy with the ride and performance of the tire and balancers. He had to go with an E3 front because the dealer didn't have a front in stock yet. We hit one of our favorite twisty roads after a reasonable break in period of the tire and it is the best handling I have gotten yet from the Vision. 45 mph curves at 70 mph was a piece of cake.
I will watch the new E3 and see if they have stepped up their game. If so I may give them a try again. They have quite a hill to climb though. |
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New Dunlop Elite3 Rear tire
