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Banjodan
Posted 2013-05-08 9:33 PM (#138612)
Subject: vision not very popular?


Cruiser

Posts: 209
I made a stop at my local dealer on the way home from work, due to a mech. problem.[will discuss later]. while i browsed around the showroom I noticed about 12 to 15 cr and various other models. they had only one vision. I asked why and he replied they are afraid they might get stuck with them[not sell] the last 2 or 3 they had took forever to sell. My guess is visions' will be discontinued or redesigned. I guess its true... you love em or you hate em. just sayin......
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varyder
Posted 2013-05-08 9:48 PM (#138615 - in reply to #138612)
Subject: Re: vision not very popular?


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
Supports what I've said all along. The Vision will go to the Victory archives. Since Victory wimped and went to "traditional" styling sealed the deal. The bottom line is ALWAYS the bottom line. I've got an original!!!
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Nozzledog
Posted 2013-05-08 10:11 PM (#138621 - in reply to #138612)
Subject: Re: vision not very popular?


Visionary

Posts: 1229
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Whenever I wander into a Harley dealer, I never see a Road Glide on the floor either. The full fairing bikes just aren't as cool. But I've heard no rumors of HD getting rid of the RG's.
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XRsteve
Posted 2013-05-08 10:35 PM (#138626 - in reply to #138612)
Subject: Re: vision not very popular?


Visionary

Posts: 2300
Georgia, west of Atlanta
RG's are going away for 2014. Rumor is it will return with a watercooled engine.............
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rdbudd
Posted 2013-05-08 10:55 PM (#138628 - in reply to #138626)
Subject: Re: vision not very popular?


Visionary

Posts: 1632
Jasper, MO
My dealer doesn't have many Visions on the floor either.

He keeps selling all the ones he gets.

He sells a lot of Cross Country Tours also.

Ronnie
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donetracey
Posted 2013-05-09 1:39 AM (#138630 - in reply to #138612)
Subject: Re: vision not very popular?


Visionary

Posts: 2118
Pitt Meadows, BC Canada
And I'll say it again: "YAHOO!!!!!"

VISION is the best bike EVER - and if they stop making it - my bike will be THE BEST BIKE EVER !!!

I like where this is going. As I have said in many threads - "Keep modifying your Visions - makes my stock Vision look like a CUSTOM". And the fewer that are sold - the better mine looks. I know - selfish, selfish, selfish.

And I yam ... selfish. Loves my Vision. It rode me from Vancouver up the 'Sea To Sky Highway' to Whistler Mountain today - like a dream come true. At our lunch stop in Squamish, this guy came over and started kicking my bike. I took a swipe at him, then realized it was an OLD riding buddy that I hadn't seen in YEARS! Co-Pilot was in UGH-UGH-UGH YIKE mode - cuz she didn't know him.
He was riding a Barn-Door Harley - and was astonished at the beauty of my VISION. Him and I rode to Alaska 15 years earlier - so we were 'close'. Wonderful ride on the best bike on the planet.
Point is - I wouldn't be unhappy if not ONE other Vision is sold. I am happy with a bike that EVERYONE is astounded by - I just don't want it to be just another BIKE !
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Street Eagle
Posted 2013-05-09 8:27 AM (#138645 - in reply to #138612)
Subject: Re: vision not very popular?


Iron Butt

Posts: 691
Manchester, CT
Hey Donetracey

I'm jealous...I went skiing at whistler the year the new resort opened up. It's absolutely stunning landscape and thinking it back it is awesome riding country! I've only had my vision for 3 weeks and yes it has attracted many admirers.
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Arkainzeye
Posted 2013-05-09 11:16 AM (#138657 - in reply to #138612)
Subject: Re: vision not very popular?


Visionary

Posts: 3773
Pittsburgh, PA
My dealer No longer stocks a vision. Its special order only. I got their 2nd to the last one. They said the cross bikes completely out sell the vision.. but honest.. I like that I don't have a cookie cutter "I want to fit in" bike...
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BrandonM7
Posted 2013-05-09 12:04 PM (#138661 - in reply to #138657)
Subject: Re: vision not very popular?


Cruiser

Posts: 178
LaGrange, GA
Arkainzeye - 2013-05-09 12:16 PM

My dealer No longer stocks a vision. Its special order only. I got their 2nd to the last one. They said the cross bikes completely out sell the vision.. but honest.. I like that I don't have a cookie cutter "I want to fit in" bike...


Same here. Guy was even an asshole about it to boot. As a result, they're my closest dealer, but not "my" dealer.
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Easttexasrider
Posted 2013-05-09 12:06 PM (#138662 - in reply to #138612)
Subject: Re: vision not very popular?


Cruiser

Posts: 244
Lindale, TX
Maybe in 20 years my origional production 2008 Vision will be a classic!
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Easttexasrider
Posted 2013-05-09 12:07 PM (#138663 - in reply to #138612)
Subject: Re: vision not very popular?


Cruiser

Posts: 244
Lindale, TX
Five years /24,200 miles....I need to stop working so much and ride more!
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Oldman47
Posted 2013-05-09 12:11 PM (#138664 - in reply to #138612)
Subject: Re: vision not very popular?


Tourer

Posts: 573
Central Illinois
Definitely need to find the time to ride more ETR. Even here in Illinois I am riding about 8000 miles a year, and we have snow on the roads part of the year.
A classic is any bike over 25 years old so yes, it will be a classic.
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Maverick
Posted 2013-05-09 12:40 PM (#138666 - in reply to #138612)
Subject: Re: vision not very popular?


Cruiser

Posts: 154
Cabot Arkansas
My dealer's best selling bike is the cross country followed by the Vision.He quit stocking hammer's a couple of years ago and only keeps a couple of Jackpot's and a few 8 ball's and and a couple of each of the other steel frame bikes.He is picking up Indian though.I bought 2 Vision's in 2009 and we rode them all over the country and then last year we wanted new bikes and test rode the CCT's many miles ,but in the end we bought 2 new Vision's.The Vision is the first bike I ever liked well enough to buy again.If I bought another bike this year it would be the Vision again.We do a few 600-1000 mile days a year and I have found nothing that beats the comfort and ease of riding of the Vision.And I really like that the Vision doesn't look anything like the harley's and harley clone bikes.
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BrandonM7
Posted 2013-05-09 1:00 PM (#138667 - in reply to #138666)
Subject: Re: vision not very popular?


Cruiser

Posts: 178
LaGrange, GA
Maverick - 2013-05-09 1:40 PM

My dealer's best selling bike is the cross country followed by the Vision.He quit stocking hammer's a couple of years ago and only keeps a couple of Jackpot's and a few 8 ball's and and a couple of each of the other steel frame bikes.He is picking up Indian though.I bought 2 Vision's in 2009 and we rode them all over the country and then last year we wanted new bikes and test rode the CCT's many miles ,but in the end we bought 2 new Vision's.The Vision is the first bike I ever liked well enough to buy again.If I bought another bike this year it would be the Vision again.We do a few 600-1000 mile days a year and I have found nothing that beats the comfort and ease of riding of the Vision.And I really like that the Vision doesn't look anything like the harley's and harley clone bikes.


My nearby dealer is the opposite. I live close to Ft. Benning, so his primary customer base are young dudes all amped up on awesomeness with cash in their pockets. His floor is full of the flashy, ride down the strip, look-good-for-a-few-minutes-no-matter-how-uncomfortable-I-may-be type bikes. A couple of CCs, but mostly just the show-off types and sportbikes. I hate it, but I don't blame him for stocking what he sells. I'm just thankful that Victory has their tour truck, because that's how I got to touch and ride a Vision. Otherwise I would've been SOL and probably ended up with a Road Glide instead of the better bike.
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XRsteve
Posted 2013-05-09 4:31 PM (#138672 - in reply to #138612)
Subject: Re: vision not very popular?


Visionary

Posts: 2300
Georgia, west of Atlanta
Hmmm, I've been hearing this since 2010. Guess only time will tell. 2014's will be out in about 4 months.............
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opas ride
Posted 2013-05-09 4:31 PM (#138673 - in reply to #138612)
Subject: Re: vision not very popular?


Tourer

Posts: 500
A dealer near me has had the same couple of Vision's on the floor for a long time now....But so are other models still on the floor from last year...The economy in Michigan is still slow and bikes don't seem to selling much around here....HD dealers are always full of customers though...I gotta admit I love my Vision, but have been giving the new Honda F6B a long look.....Just kidding......
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lstayner
Posted 2013-05-09 5:05 PM (#138680 - in reply to #138612)
Subject: Re: vision not very popular?


Tourer

Posts: 416
Prairie City, IA United States
I took my Vision in for service on Tuesday and there were 5 customer owned Visions in the parking lot at the same time. Granted they don't sell as fast as a CR but and J Performance in Ottumwa always has a couple on the floor. Best kept secret is a Vision.
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IndyVision
Posted 2013-05-10 11:19 AM (#138701 - in reply to #138612)
Subject: Re: vision not very popular?


Tourer

Posts: 400
I think one of the problem with Vision sales is the paint schemes. Look at the two custom paints on the cross bikes this year, they look great. Most of the Vision colors are boring.
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rdbudd
Posted 2013-05-10 12:12 PM (#138703 - in reply to #138701)
Subject: Re: vision not very popular?


Visionary

Posts: 1632
Jasper, MO
I think the main problem with Vision sales is the Out-Of-The-Box thinking and styling from an American motorcycle company. If the thing were made by Honda or BMW, people would be all over it and the magazines would be tripping over themselves to praise it.

When I bought my Vision in early 2008, lots of enthusiastic people wanted to know if it was a new model from Honda. When told that it was an American made bike from a company called Victory, they looked bewildered and disappointed. Not only that, but some of the riders of Japanese brands automatically dismissed it when they found out it was an American made bike--equating that to poor quality (in their minds). When they thought it was a Honda, they were all over it.

The reaction was even worse back when I bought my 2000 Sport Cruiser. Once people found out it was an American made bike, they tended to equate that to Harley Davidson. For many riders, that was a turn off. The riders of Asian made bikes just dismissed it out-of-hand, and the riders of Harleys just dismissed it as a wanna-be.

Victory has had a preconceived bias against American made bikes, on the one hand, and anything not made by Harley, on the other hand, to overcome.

Those of us who are willing to think out-of-the box ourselves have enjoyed one of the finest bikes made anywhere in the world. Those who live in a box don't know what they are missing.

Ronnie
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bigfoot
Posted 2013-05-10 3:53 PM (#138710 - in reply to #138612)
Subject: Re: vision not very popular?


Tourer

Posts: 494
Akron Ohio area
I rode tailgunner today at my dealerships "Truck" event.
Leading the pack was a Vision, I ride a Vision and both Visions off the truck went out every time.
Now that the Vision is cheaper than the Cross Country, interest seems to have picked up.
My only complaint is that they dropped the HID headlight from the new models.
I have it on my 2011 tour and when it gets dark outside it comes on and starts searching for deer.

Arlen Ness and Sonny Barger of the Hell's Angels both ride Visions.
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XRsteve
Posted 2013-05-10 4:12 PM (#138711 - in reply to #138612)
Subject: Re: vision not very popular?


Visionary

Posts: 2300
Georgia, west of Atlanta
Hey, I own two. I can't figure out why there aren't more out on the road..............I guess the "Art Decko" styling just isn't for everybody.
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XRsteve
Posted 2013-05-10 6:05 PM (#138715 - in reply to #138612)
Subject: Re: vision not very popular?


Visionary

Posts: 2300
Georgia, west of Atlanta
Sorry it's spelled Art Deco.............



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Oldman47
Posted 2013-05-10 6:37 PM (#138718 - in reply to #138612)
Subject: Re: vision not very popular?


Tourer

Posts: 573
Central Illinois
If you want to know which bikes are more popular, you don't need to go ask the dealer, tat will tell you which one sells better locally though. Go to one of the Victory forums where there is a listing for each model and just count how many posts each model gets in a day. The Vision on a typical day runs one or two posts to the 10+ on the Cross Country. I have to believe that the number of people on each type reflects ownership of those types. I love the Vision but it just does not sell as well as many other models.

Edited by Oldman47 2013-05-10 6:37 PM
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XRsteve
Posted 2013-05-10 8:51 PM (#138722 - in reply to #138612)
Subject: Re: vision not very popular?


Visionary

Posts: 2300
Georgia, west of Atlanta
We as Vision riders have to face facts. The CC and CCT will outsell Visions at least 7 or 8 to 1. It's just a more conventional looking Touring bike and the giant bags are a BIG plus too.................That being said I hope Vistory continues to sell the Vision. The more model years the better the spare parts if they ever do stop production............
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rdbudd
Posted 2013-05-10 11:54 PM (#138725 - in reply to #138722)
Subject: Re: vision not very popular?


Visionary

Posts: 1632
Jasper, MO
XRsteve - 2013-05-10 8:51 PM

We as Vision riders have to face facts. The CC and CCT will outsell Visions at least 7 or 8 to 1. It's just a more conventional looking Touring bike and the giant bags are a BIG plus too...............


That's a valid point, but I think Victory will stop selling the Vision when Honda stops selling the Goldwing.

I've ridden a CCT a fair distance now, and while it is a very nice bike, and I wouldn't be at all unhappy with one if there was no other choice, it is still not as good as a Vision. The ONLY advantage the CCT has over the Vision is saddlebag storage. In all other areas, the Vision is superior, at least for me and my wife. The Vision is the flagship for Victory, just as the Goldwing is for Honda. The Cross bikes are for those who want a more traditional style, but they give up a little (CCT) or a lot (CR) to get it.

The Vision will probably evolve, just like the Goldwing, but it's here to stay.

Honda will probably copy the CCT and continue to sell the Goldwing too.

Ronnie
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