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jjp53
Posted 2012-11-10 4:35 PM (#126481)
Subject: Installing Cams


Cruiser

Posts: 78
Gilroy, Ca
I was at the dealership today and talked to a guy who had lloydz cams installed today in 3 hrs. He said some guy from Florida flew out and installed them there at the dealership. Who is this mystery Man?
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Tex
Posted 2012-11-10 5:02 PM (#126484 - in reply to #126481)
Subject: Re: Installing Cams


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 44
Kevin X
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jjp53
Posted 2012-11-10 5:13 PM (#126485 - in reply to #126481)
Subject: Re: Installing Cams


Cruiser

Posts: 78
Gilroy, Ca
Oh I forgot to mention I'm in California
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cw1115
Posted 2012-11-10 5:58 PM (#126488 - in reply to #126481)
Subject: Re: Installing Cams


Visionary

Posts: 1290
Ruskin, Fl
Don't quote me, but I believe if you have a few people wanting cams he'll come to you. Just traded my vision in at his shop for a new one. Can't wait to get back to have mine done.
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johnnyvision
Posted 2012-11-10 6:23 PM (#126493 - in reply to #126481)
Subject: Re: Installing Cams


Visionary

Posts: 4278
Get a hold of Lloydz and ask then who can where U live
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kris1956
Posted 2012-11-10 6:35 PM (#126496 - in reply to #126481)
Subject: Re: Installing Cams


Iron Butt

Posts: 1109
If there's anyone doing them near Dallas please let me know. Thanks
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jjp53
Posted 2012-11-10 6:46 PM (#126499 - in reply to #126481)
Subject: Re: Installing Cams


Cruiser

Posts: 78
Gilroy, Ca
Oh ok so my dealer flew him in and he did a couple bikes now i know I'll talk to the guys at my shop see what say
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goat813
Posted 2012-11-10 7:37 PM (#126501 - in reply to #126496)
Subject: Re: Installing Cams


Cruiser

Posts: 215
W'ford Tx
kris1956 - 2012-11-10 6:35 PM

If there's anyone doing them near Dallas please let me know. Thanks


If you want to drive out to Weatherford which is about 52 miles west of the Dallas line then yes, there are people doing them near Dallas.
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kris1956
Posted 2012-11-10 8:30 PM (#126504 - in reply to #126501)
Subject: Re: Installing Cams


Iron Butt

Posts: 1109

goat813 - 2012-11-10 7:37 PM kris1956 - 2012-11-10 6:35 PM If there's anyone doing them near Dallas please let me know. Thanks If you want to drive out to Weatherford which is about 52 miles west of the Dallas line then yes, there are people doing them near Dallas.

 Whats the name of the shop? and thanks.

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Vicbuilder
Posted 2012-11-10 9:56 PM (#126509 - in reply to #126481)
Subject: RE: Installing Cams


Cruiser

Posts: 169
The Vic Shop - Central Iowa
If you are in the Midwest I do cam installs either here, at my shop, or out on the road. Just like Kevin, it is just a matter of a couple of hours. It blows my mind that there are still dealers out there quoting engine removal for a cam job!
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jjp53
Posted 2012-11-11 1:19 AM (#126514 - in reply to #126481)
Subject: Re: Installing Cams


Cruiser

Posts: 78
Gilroy, Ca
Ya they guy I spoke with said another dealer here in California quoted him 12hrs for a cam install.
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kris1956
Posted 2012-11-11 5:29 AM (#126519 - in reply to #126481)
Subject: Re: Installing Cams


Iron Butt

Posts: 1109
Rylan, dealer here said he had to remove the engine and rear swing arm, 22 hours. I told him there was a much easier and cleaner way to install them and he said he knows this. He doesn't have any interest unless he can yank the motor, no money in it. If that's what he wants to do that's fine. In a year or two when I'm ready for a new bike I won't have any interest in buying from him. I'll probably install them myself after the first of the year.

Edited by kris1956 2012-11-11 5:46 AM
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goat813
Posted 2012-11-11 7:07 AM (#126523 - in reply to #126504)
Subject: Re: Installing Cams


Cruiser

Posts: 215
W'ford Tx
kris1956 - 2012-11-10 8:30 PM

goat813 - 2012-11-10 7:37 PM kris1956 - 2012-11-10 6:35 PM If there's anyone doing them near Dallas please let me know. Thanks If you want to drive out to Weatherford which is about 52 miles west of the Dallas line then yes, there are people doing them near Dallas.

?Whats the name of the shop? and thanks.




Freedom Powersports 817-596-3244. They're closed Sunday and Monday so give them a call Tuesday for a quote. They do a lot of Victorys (Victories?) They do a lot of loyds upgrades.
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kris1956
Posted 2012-11-11 7:36 AM (#126524 - in reply to #126523)
Subject: Re: Installing Cams


Iron Butt

Posts: 1109
goat813 - 2012-11-11 7:07 AM kris1956 - 2012-11-10 8:30 PM

goat813 - 2012-11-10 7:37 PM kris1956 - 2012-11-10 6:35 PM If there's anyone doing them near Dallas please let me know. Thanks If you want to drive out to Weatherford which is about 52 miles west of the Dallas line then yes, there are people doing them near Dallas.

?Whats the name of the shop? and thanks.

Freedom Powersports 817-596-3244. They're closed Sunday and Monday so give them a call Tuesday for a quote. They do a lot of Victorys (Victories?) They do a lot of loyds upgrades.

 I called them about a year and half ago and they told me they had to pull the engine. I told them that wasn't quite true and they informed me that was the only way they would install cams. I'll try them again.

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Vicbuilder
Posted 2012-11-11 8:35 AM (#126528 - in reply to #126519)
Subject: Re: Installing Cams


Cruiser

Posts: 169
The Vic Shop - Central Iowa
kris1956 - 2012-11-11 5:29 AM

Rylan, dealer here said he had to remove the engine and rear swing arm, 22 hours. I told him there was a much easier and cleaner way to install them and he said he knows this. He doesn't have any interest unless he can yank the motor, no money in it. If that's what he wants to do that's fine. In a year or two when I'm ready for a new bike I won't have any interest in buying from him. I'll probably install them myself after the first of the year.


Tell your dealer "Thanks You!" from me!!! This kind of dealers attitude keeps me busy 12hrs a day 6 days/week picking up his lost business. No wonder I'm scheduling weeks out in this economy!

Personally I'd rather treat 10 people fairly, and make a nice profit rather than brush off 9 people so I can rake the 10th over the coals to make the same profit.
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kris1956
Posted 2012-11-11 8:52 AM (#126529 - in reply to #126528)
Subject: Re: Installing Cams


Iron Butt

Posts: 1109

Vicbuilder - 2012-11-11 8:35 AM kris1956 - 2012-11-11 5:29 AM Rylan, dealer here said he had to remove the engine and rear swing arm, 22 hours. I told him there was a much easier and cleaner way to install them and he said he knows this. He doesn't have any interest unless he can yank the motor, no money in it. If that's what he wants to do that's fine. In a year or two when I'm ready for a new bike I won't have any interest in buying from him. I'll probably install them myself after the first of the year. Tell your dealer "Thanks You!" from me!!! This kind of dealers attitude keeps me busy 12hrs a day 6 days/week picking up his lost business. No wonder I'm scheduling weeks out in this economy! Personally I'd rather treat 10 people fairly, and make a nice profit rather than brush off 9 people so I can rake the 10th over the coals to make the same profit.

 I ran new car dealers before I retired and I'm looking at buying a place. I always told my people that we cannot make a living off home runs. Keep hitting singles and we'll always be up to bat. I've considered opening a Vic repair shop as there doesn't seem to be anyone in my part of the world that really cares about service. 

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kevinx
Posted 2012-11-11 9:42 AM (#126532 - in reply to #126499)
Subject: Re: Installing Cams


Visionary

Posts: 1340
Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators
jjp53 - 2012-11-10 7:46 PM

Oh ok so my dealer flew him in and he did a couple bikes now i know I'll talk to the guys at my shop see what say


The dealer did not arrange it. I do these parties usually at private residences. Takes four bike to get me out. Looks like I will be in Bakersfield on Dec 8 and think I may have one slot open. Shoot me a PM
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baadawg
Posted 2012-11-11 7:02 PM (#126552 - in reply to #126481)
Subject: Re: Installing Cams


Tourer

Posts: 499
Chattanooga, TN
If you cannot arrange it with KevinX, (who I hear does a jam-up job btw) another installer on the east coast is Kyle of KMC Powersports. (401)952-7972. He was trained by Lloyd and bought his dyno trailer from him. I can vouch for him cause he did my top end in Daytona this year and the cams in Helen GA at the Southeast Victory Rally. I wish I had just done the whole damn thing in Daytona, and got it over with! Once I felt the power/better driveability that could be achieved without the cams, I had to have even more power.
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donetracey
Posted 2012-11-11 8:13 PM (#126560 - in reply to #126481)
Subject: Re: Installing Cams


Visionary

Posts: 2118
Pitt Meadows, BC Canada
Yeah KevinX !!!

He did mine just across the border in northern Washington at another bikers home. I got to watch the whole thing, chat with Kevin and have enjoyed my wonderful performance for 3 years now. Can't beat it - and NO Harley has come close to beating me - WITH the Co-Pilot on board!

Thanks, Kevin !!!

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jjp53
Posted 2012-11-11 10:22 PM (#126568 - in reply to #126481)
Subject: Re: Installing Cams


Cruiser

Posts: 78
Gilroy, Ca
Hey Don what are your numbers "hp & trq"
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kevinx
Posted 2012-11-11 10:29 PM (#126569 - in reply to #126568)
Subject: Re: Installing Cams


Visionary

Posts: 1340
Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators
jjp53 - 2012-11-11 11:22 PM

Hey Don what are your numbers "hp & trq"


Typical numbers for a vision are 107+HP/ 112+TQ
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kevinx
Posted 2012-11-11 10:29 PM (#126570 - in reply to #126568)
Subject: Re: Installing Cams


Visionary

Posts: 1340
Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators
jjp53 - 2012-11-11 11:22 PM

Hey Don what are your numbers "hp & trq"


Typical numbers for a vision are 107+HP/ 112+TQ
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jjp53
Posted 2012-11-12 12:52 AM (#126572 - in reply to #126570)
Subject: Re: Installing Cams


Cruiser

Posts: 78
Gilroy, Ca
kevinx - 2012-11-11 8:29 PM
Typical numbers for a vision are 107+HP/ 112+TQ


Would those numbers include the addition of intakes and exhaust?
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donetracey
Posted 2012-11-12 1:37 AM (#126573 - in reply to #126481)
Subject: Re: Installing Cams


Visionary

Posts: 2118
Pitt Meadows, BC Canada
The numbers are with my bike - "I can beat yours" - that's all that matters to this Old Fart.
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Monkeyman
Posted 2012-11-12 4:31 AM (#126574 - in reply to #126570)
Subject: Re: Installing Cams


Iron Butt

Posts: 1066
Peru, IN
kevinx - 2012-11-11 11:29 PM

jjp53 - 2012-11-11 11:22 PM

Hey Don what are your numbers "hp & trq"


Typical numbers for a vision are 107+HP/ 112+TQ


Can I assume those are rear wheel numbers?
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