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nailer
Posted 2012-04-26 8:48 PM (#113038)
Subject: Lithium Ion Motorcycle Battery


Tourer

Posts: 366
Albuquerque, NM
Saw this on ebay for the vision. $249....ouch. Nice specs though.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/08-10-Victory-Vision-Shorai-Lithium-Ion-Sta...



Edited by nailer 2012-04-26 8:49 PM
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johnnyvision
Posted 2012-04-27 4:53 PM (#113105 - in reply to #113038)
Subject: Re: Lithium Ion Motorcycle Battery


Visionary

Posts: 4278
I don't understand spending all that money.
Yuasa is a great bettery for less money. If you take care of like put it on a tender in the winter you will maybe get 5 years
http://www.yuasabatteries.com/about.php
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BBQWIZ
Posted 2012-04-27 6:57 PM (#113112 - in reply to #113038)
Subject: Re: Lithium Ion Motorcycle Battery


Cruiser

Posts: 104
ROCHESTER,NY
If you REMOVE the battery,bring it inside for the winter. Yes, in the house. I've had a total of 4 different motorcycle's, the Vision being the 4th.So 3 motorcycle's, 28 yrs between the 3, NEVER replaced a battery. Never a tender,or charger hooked up to them. All I did was cut a piece of plywood,a little larger than the battery,put it under my desk out of the way.Put it back in when spring came. No problem.

RIDE HARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LIVE FAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DIE FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Arkainzeye
Posted 2012-04-27 8:20 PM (#113116 - in reply to #113038)
Subject: Re: Lithium Ion Motorcycle Battery


Visionary

Posts: 3773
Pittsburgh, PA
battery tender is alot easier than removing the battery every winter.. i can plug my BT into the harness in 5 seconds. also great if you dont ride for a little while. Hell i even used it for playing my radio (Vision's radio) in the garage while doing other work. This way no worries about the battery going dead..
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kris1956
Posted 2012-04-28 4:31 AM (#113129 - in reply to #113038)
Subject: Re: Lithium Ion Motorcycle Battery


Iron Butt

Posts: 1109
I ride almost year round so I never remove my battery. I put in on the trickle charger when I know I won't be riding for a few days and I never have a problem. I did replace the factory battery after three years but that's something I've done with every bike I've owned.
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johnnyvision
Posted 2012-04-28 6:08 PM (#113165 - in reply to #113038)
Subject: Re: Lithium Ion Motorcycle Battery


Visionary

Posts: 4278
If you read battery manufactures tell you cool dry place for winter storage. Winter months its on the tender and the coldest the garage has ever been is zero. Tender keep battery from freezing.
Either way a battery only last so long. Just wish they would die in the garage not on the highway.
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LI XUE WEI
Posted 2012-07-18 2:55 AM (#119666 - in reply to #113165)
Subject: Re: Lithium Ion Motorcycle Battery


New user

Posts: 1
What's the model type of Yuasa battery for vision? Is it YTX20L-BS?
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Boots
Posted 2012-07-18 10:17 AM (#119685 - in reply to #113038)
Subject: Re: Lithium Ion Motorcycle Battery


Tourer

Posts: 599
New Mexico
I have a buddy that sells them and says they are the next best thing. Very light, strong, reliable.


http://www.gmanindustries.com/shop/pc/viewCategories.asp?idCategory...
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willtill
Posted 2012-07-18 2:30 PM (#119692 - in reply to #113038)
Subject: Re: Lithium Ion Motorcycle Battery


Visionary

Posts: 1365
Central Maryland
Though not my Vision; I have a Ballistic 16 cell EVO Lithium battery wired in parrallel with a 310 CCA Scorpion AGM battery, on my Triumph Rocket III. It gives me a total of 810 CCA's to turn over that monster 2300cc engine (Especially with the Carpenter Racing engine package upgrade I had done)

Here's a picture. The Lithium battery is under the Power Commander module:





Edited by willtill 2012-07-18 2:36 PM
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johnnyvision
Posted 2012-07-18 4:49 PM (#119695 - in reply to #113038)
Subject: RE: Lithium Ion Motorcycle Battery


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Posts: 4278

nailer - 2012-04-26 8:48 PM Saw this on ebay for the vision. $249....ouch. Nice specs though. http://www.ebay.com/itm/08-10-Victory-Vision-Shorai-Lithium-Ion-Sta...

 

So I looked at your ebay batter and it makes me wounder why dos it the battery not work for the 2011 or 12

Makes me think these guys just sell batterys and don't look to see it still fits.

If you can get 5 years out of a normal battery what makes this so special.

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willtill
Posted 2012-07-18 6:23 PM (#119702 - in reply to #119695)
Subject: RE: Lithium Ion Motorcycle Battery


Visionary

Posts: 1365
Central Maryland
johnnyvision - 2012-07-18 5:49 PM

nailer - 2012-04-26 8:48 PM Saw this on ebay for the vision. $249....ouch. Nice specs though. http://www.ebay.com/itm/08-10-Victory-Vision-Shorai-Lithium-Ion-Sta...

?

So I looked at your ebay batter and it makes me wounder why dos it the battery not work for the 2011 or 12

Makes me think these guys just sell batterys and don't look to see it still fits.

If you can get 5 years out of a normal battery what makes this so special.



1. Smaller
2. Lighter
3. Performs better in the cold
4. Does not sulfate like wet cell battery
5. Does not need a trickle charger
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Monkeyman
Posted 2012-07-21 10:17 AM (#119858 - in reply to #113038)
Subject: Re: Lithium Ion Motorcycle Battery


Iron Butt

Posts: 1066
Peru, IN
I never plugged my bike in (or took the battery out of the bike) all last winter. Fired right up in the spring.
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baadawg
Posted 2012-07-21 12:08 PM (#119862 - in reply to #119858)
Subject: Re: Lithium Ion Motorcycle Battery


Tourer

Posts: 499
Chattanooga, TN

Monkeyman - 2012-07-21 11:17 AM I never plugged my bike in (or took the battery out of the bike) all last winter. Fired right up in the spring.

 That's great. Now do it again this winter and let us know how that works out for you. If it still cranks in the spring, repeat one more winter. I like to spend my dollars wisely, as I think most people do and I'd rather spend a few bucks on a battery tender than replacing it due to sulfation every other year. I ride my Vision year round unlike other bikes I've had. But I still use the battery tender if it sits more than a few weeks due to the weather.

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wesdalton
Posted 2012-07-21 2:16 PM (#119865 - in reply to #113038)
Subject: Re: Lithium Ion Motorcycle Battery


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 21
In addition to my XC, I have a C-50 Suzuki it is in its 6th year of riding. Original battery, never had any problem with it even if I only ride it once or twice a month. Most of my riding is on my XC. In the winter (norther Utah) I just keep it on a battery tender in my unheated garage. When spring gets here I never keep it plugged in. I thing when the Vic or the Suzuki need a battery I will just stay with the Yuasa.
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atvtinker
Posted 2012-07-24 9:05 PM (#120136 - in reply to #113038)
Subject: Re: Lithium Ion Motorcycle Battery


Tourer

Posts: 466
Grand Cane, LA
Funny thing about the lithium battery mentioned, if it is so great, why does it only come with a 2 year manufacturers warranty? A battery that suppose to be that good should be at least good enough for a 5 year warranty!
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willtill
Posted 2012-07-25 6:08 AM (#120150 - in reply to #120136)
Subject: Re: Lithium Ion Motorcycle Battery


Visionary

Posts: 1365
Central Maryland
atvtinker - 2012-07-24 10:05 PM

Funny thing about the lithium battery mentioned, if it is so great, why does it only come with a 2 year manufacturers warranty? A battery that suppose to be that good should be at least good enough for a 5 year warranty!


Not sure about the Shorai Lithium Battery.

Expected life from a Lithium battery (at least my Ballistic) is 5 years. My Ballistic battery warranty is three years.
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bwhittaker
Posted 2013-01-31 9:30 AM (#130314 - in reply to #113038)
Subject: RE: Lithium Ion Motorcycle Battery


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 9
, FL

I got a shori lithium battery (27 amp hr) above 18 oem rating.

Bewarned the lithium ion is much much much more sensitive to cold weather. Won't crank my vision if below 60 degrees F. I did a lot of research before I paid $268 dollars but thought the cold weather beneifit of warming up the battery by running lights a few minutes would be a small price in order to have a battery that would work in the coldest of conditions. However, even with moderately cool weather the lithium Shori battery has problems. Hell I live in South Florida and this last weekend when it wouldn't start '"again" I tried warming up the battery with accessory running lights but ended up killing the battery before it would warm up enough to start the bike. This Shori battery is sensitive to cold - yes that was in the research I did but what I read did not hint that it was very very much more sensitive than the typical AGM battery. Note that I upgrade from 18ah to 27 ah but the cold factor was immensely greater than I had assumed.

I am buying another battery today.
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rdbudd
Posted 2013-01-31 10:32 AM (#130318 - in reply to #130314)
Subject: RE: Lithium Ion Motorcycle Battery


Visionary

Posts: 1632
Jasper, MO
One has to wonder if the new Lithium Ion technology is really ready for prime time. These were made by Yuasa.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/30/business/boeing-aware-of-battery-...

And it's not just airplanes catching fire from the batteries. Cars and computers too.
http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/013013-642577-boeing-dream...

I think I'll just stick with the AGM batteries for now.

Ronnie
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victoryvisiontour
Posted 2013-01-31 4:59 PM (#130331 - in reply to #119666)
Subject: Re: Lithium Ion Motorcycle Battery


Iron Butt

Posts: 763
Anderson, IN (48mi NE of downtown Indianapolis)
LI XUE WEI - 2012-07-18 3:55 AM

What's the model type of Yuasa battery for vision? Is it YTX20L-BS?


My manual says YTX20HL-BS
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rdbudd
Posted 2013-01-31 5:30 PM (#130336 - in reply to #130331)
Subject: Re: Lithium Ion Motorcycle Battery


Visionary

Posts: 1632
Jasper, MO
Same here. I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure I found a seller that had both the 20L and the 20HL listed and the 20L was 270 CCA while the 20HL was 310CCA.

Ronnie
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victoryvisiontour
Posted 2013-01-31 8:36 PM (#130345 - in reply to #130336)
Subject: Re: Lithium Ion Motorcycle Battery


Iron Butt

Posts: 763
Anderson, IN (48mi NE of downtown Indianapolis)
rdbudd - 2013-01-31 6:30 PM

Same here. I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure I found a seller that had both the 20L and the 20HL listed and the 20L was 270 CCA while the 20HL was 310CCA.

Ronnie


Online prices with free shipping:
YTX20L-BS = $42
YTX20HL-BS = $84
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FlukerM
Posted 2013-01-31 9:00 PM (#130346 - in reply to #113038)
Subject: Re: Lithium Ion Motorcycle Battery


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 8
Eglin AFB, FL
They catch fire on cars, computers and airplanes and they cost twice as much and when they catch fire you can't put them out. Uhhhhhhh thanks I'll pass.
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willtill
Posted 2013-02-01 5:28 AM (#130350 - in reply to #130346)
Subject: Re: Lithium Ion Motorcycle Battery


Visionary

Posts: 1365
Central Maryland
FlukerM - 2013-01-31 10:00 PM

They catch fire on cars, computers and airplanes and they cost twice as much and when they catch fire you can't put them out. Uhhhhhhh thanks I'll pass.


Scaredy cat

Riders have a better chance of dying on a motorcycle, than a car. But we ride anyway....
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norcan
Posted 2013-02-01 6:13 AM (#130352 - in reply to #113038)
Subject: Re: Lithium Ion Motorcycle Battery


Cruiser

Posts: 208
Edmonton Alberta, Canada
2008 vision bought in may of 08 and still original battery and I do not disconnect it during storage. First winter in neighbors attached garage. Second winter in enclosed trailer. Last 3 winters again in neighbors attached garage. Baby put up for winter mid Oct through end of Mar. The coldest would have been in the enclosed trailer, -40 f, neighbors garage maybe -20 as it is attached how ever not heated.
I do not have a battery tender. nor do I put a charger on it in the spring. Typically it is about 50 f when neighbor returns and I need to move bike back to my garage. I just in check oil, and turn the key. Yes it turns a bit slower from the clock drain for all those months. But it has yet to still fail me. I have never ran the battery down listening to the radio, or because of accessories.
I personally feel that all a battery tender does is makes sure your bike fires up, and lets you get down the road only to leave you stranded. I would much rather have the battery fail me in my garage, than 20 miles down the road.
I have gotten 5 years of service out of my battery, and if I need to replace it, I will with a similar battery. My 09 Dodge ram (2nd owner) needed a new battery last spring, daily driver except in the summer where it sometimes sits for up to a week with out starting. Replaced only because it would dip low in voltage after starting and set codes in the computer and caused tranny shift problems. In our climate up north of the 49th -40 to 100 f a bad battery shows it bad side quickly.
Just my own honest opinion, so no need to get excited and tell me how I was just lucky or have an exceptional battery. Just relaying my experience on.

Thanks for reading.
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conn-e-rot
Posted 2013-02-01 9:21 AM (#130358 - in reply to #113038)
Subject: Re: Lithium Ion Motorcycle Battery


Cruiser

Posts: 108
Conneaut, OH
I asked riders discount about a ballistic battery and they said they would not recommend one for anyone that rides when temps are below 50
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