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Redd
Posted 2012-03-04 11:43 AM (#109197)
Subject: Lowering a Vision


Cruiser

Posts: 73
Nor Cali
Anyone lowered their Vision? I'm thinking of lowering 1" and wondering just how much that would affect my lean capability in the twisties.
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hawaii
Posted 2012-03-04 12:03 PM (#109198 - in reply to #109197)
Subject: Re: Lowering a Vision


Cruiser

Posts: 104
Going to do it soon too. I'm going to lower the front about a 3/4" by sliding the fork tubes down the triple clamps and not sure about the back yet. My Mechanic said he can cut and re-weld the arm for 2 hours labor or I will buy the lowering kit from one of our vendors. Going 1" in the back.
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Redd
Posted 2012-03-04 12:12 PM (#109200 - in reply to #109198)
Subject: Re: Lowering a Vision


Cruiser

Posts: 73
Nor Cali
Hmmm, not a simple case of changing "Bones" to lower the rear?
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opas ride
Posted 2012-03-04 12:53 PM (#109201 - in reply to #109197)
Subject: Re: Lowering a Vision


Tourer

Posts: 500
It is much easier, IMHO, to buy the 8-ball seat which is 1"lower and doesn't mess with the suspension..You call also buy the 8-ball rear shock, a little costly although, and lower the bike another 1" without hurting much...Rear shock travel is less, but unless your riding is two-up with lots of luggage you should not notice much difference...Some, like me, prefer the 8-ball seat because it has better lower back support.......
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bakfixr
Posted 2012-03-04 1:05 PM (#109202 - in reply to #109197)
Subject: RE: Lowering a Vision


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 25
Illinois
HMD520 has a great lowering kit, easy to install and 1" makes a big difference- I had mine lowered about 6 months ago and highly recommend it!
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Arkainzeye
Posted 2012-03-04 1:55 PM (#109205 - in reply to #109197)
Subject: Re: Lowering a Vision


Visionary

Posts: 3773
Pittsburgh, PA
i cant speak for how it would effect a vision. but when i lowered one of my other bikes in the rear by 1 inch (changed the shock) it scraped all the time and almost caused me to have a accident.. but like i said, that was Not on a vision.
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Redd
Posted 2012-03-04 2:04 PM (#109206 - in reply to #109202)
Subject: RE: Lowering a Vision


Cruiser

Posts: 73
Nor Cali

Yeah, I went down to Corbin and had a seat made...Freakin' comfortable...then I realized, Hey...it's taller, I'm up on my toes a little when stopping. Crikie, I'm 5'9"...vertically challenged!! Haaa. I replaced my Vision 8 Ball seat with it so I'm thinking I need at least another inch to bring it down a little. The Corbin also sits me back a little...much more relaxed position. So if the Vision 8 Ball shock will bring be down a inch and I can lower a inch to boot, that sounds good. I'm 1 up 99.9% of the time so weight shouldn't be a issue...just some occasional luggage when going on weekend trips. The shock sound good cause that should lower the body without lowering the frame. I don't want to loose any lean angle in the twisties.

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Redd
Posted 2012-03-04 3:33 PM (#109213 - in reply to #109206)
Subject: RE: Lowering a Vision


Cruiser

Posts: 73
Nor Cali
Whoops, sorry...I misread that info on the 8 Ball Shock. I already have a 8 Ball. I misread that I could lower the height of the 8 Ball shock by a inch...not the case.
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MaddMAx2u
Posted 2012-03-04 4:59 PM (#109218 - in reply to #109197)
Subject: Re: Lowering a Vision


Iron Butt

Posts: 880
Orlando, FL
Redd, if you already have an 8 Ball you are 2 inches lower than the Vision Tour. You get one inch from the seat, and one inch from a shorter shock in the rear. And you want to go LOWER? I wouldn't, but to each his own. I have an 8 Ball and the seat height is 24 inches. Low enough. Any more and I'll be scraping makin any turns at all.
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gottavision
Posted 2012-03-04 5:26 PM (#109219 - in reply to #109218)
Subject: Re: Lowering a Vision


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 49
I had mine lowered 2" in back 1.5" in front (from www.hmd520.com)and put a Ness seat which makes total 3" lower in back. I am 5'7" tall. Feels like a sport tour. I can lean into twisties feelin better than ever, with no problem. I do have to be careful over speed bumps. The bike feels way better balanced to me being 5'7'' 175lbs. of rock hard muscle. I had to alter the inner bags so they won't scrape. Also put case protector and lower kickstand. If doing 1" you don't have to do anything with inner bags, I would suggest lower kickstand and possible case protector for motor.



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johnnyvision
Posted 2012-03-04 6:49 PM (#109231 - in reply to #109197)
Subject: Re: Lowering a Vision


Visionary

Posts: 4278
I lowered mine one inch. Yes now and them I scrap but then I'm leaning really good having fun.
When I lowered the bike I just cut my link rod and add more air to the shock. No Bottoming.
You will have to get a shorter kick stand cause the bike will stand to straight up an down.
http://www.hmd520.com/category/HMD-PARTS-1
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Redd
Posted 2012-03-04 6:52 PM (#109232 - in reply to #109197)
Subject: RE: Lowering a Vision


Cruiser

Posts: 73
Nor Cali
I had a new Corbin saddle made and it's a little high...even with the 8 Ball lower shock. I'm thinking all I need is 1/2" to 1" to be flat footed at stops. The Corbin saddle I had made is so incredibly comfortable I need to get this done. I'm also playing with the idea of resoling my boots and adding 1/2 inch to the sole and heel.


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TRELL
Posted 2012-03-04 8:50 PM (#109239 - in reply to #109197)
Subject: Re: Lowering a Vision


Cruiser

Posts: 232
My bike kick stand is already to short bike lean almost 3 to 4'' over now anyway of getting a longer stand? 2011 vision tour pearl wht.
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hawaii
Posted 2012-03-04 10:17 PM (#109249 - in reply to #109197)
Subject: Re: Lowering a Vision


Cruiser

Posts: 104
I've tried calling HMD520 several times and left a message. Emailed him and no reply so I gave up on his kit. Can't say I didn't try to give a pass Maui boy the business.
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SammyJ
Posted 2012-03-05 9:01 AM (#109265 - in reply to #109197)
Subject: Re: Lowering a Vision


Cruiser

Posts: 96
Princeton, IL
I lowered my Vision 1" and love it. I will tell you that early last year I hit a pot hole and broke the inside of the bags and shaved a chunk out of my belt. I was fine for a year until I hit the pothole-it was a mutha! I made my own rear link and installed it. I love it. I put the bag insert in mine and lowered it another inch. I am 5'9" but I just love the feel. I lowered the front 1.5" as well. I used to ride sport bikes so I love to dig her into the corner, I don't feel like I lost a lot of lean angle. The suspension still feels the same to me as well, I kept the same shock. A friend of mine has a Ness Vision, and when he met Arlen, Arlen told him to lower it another inch and then watch the bike come alive, in my opinion, it did. Oh yeah, I also have a lowered seat. I did all the work my self, it was fairly easy-it all boils down to personal choice.
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SammyJ
Posted 2012-03-05 9:03 AM (#109266 - in reply to #109197)
Subject: Re: Lowering a Vision


Cruiser

Posts: 96
Princeton, IL
I am surprise at the comment about HMD, I have talked to Mike several times and have always gotten excellent service.
Ps- I lived in Hawaii for 4 years while in he service. That is where I had my sportbikes. That is the most beautiful place on earth as far as I am concerned.

Edited by SammyJ 2012-03-05 9:06 AM
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Redd
Posted 2012-03-05 9:10 AM (#109267 - in reply to #109266)
Subject: Re: Lowering a Vision


Cruiser

Posts: 73
Nor Cali

SammyJ - 2012-03-05 7:03 AM I am surprise at the comment about HMD, I have talked to Mike several times and have always gotten excellent service. Ps- I lived in Hawaii for 4 years while in he service. That is where I had my sportbikes. That is the most beautiful place on earth as far as I am concerned.

I sent him a email yesterday and got an answer this morning...seems to be right on.

Re: your lowering...You riding a standard Vision or a 8 Ball? I have a 8 Ball already and that's why I'm asking about the lowering and lean angle if lowered another inch.

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SammyJ
Posted 2012-03-05 9:12 AM (#109269 - in reply to #109197)
Subject: Re: Lowering a Vision


Cruiser

Posts: 96
Princeton, IL
I have the standard model and have lowered it a total of slightly over 2 inches in the rear and 1.5 in the front. Glad to hear you got in touch with Mike.
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hawaii
Posted 2012-03-05 10:40 AM (#109273 - in reply to #109197)
Subject: Re: Lowering a Vision


Cruiser

Posts: 104
Sammy
How did you make your own? for the rear, does the rear wheel have to come off etc?
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SammyJ
Posted 2012-03-05 10:57 AM (#109274 - in reply to #109197)
Subject: Re: Lowering a Vision


Cruiser

Posts: 96
Princeton, IL
I modified my stock link so I could adjust its length about 1/2", which equals about 1" ride height. The job was fairly easy. I used the service manual for step by step instructions to remove the link. Someone on this site has a picture of one modified like I did mine. I will try to find it and post the link. If you are really interested, I have pics and lessons learned I can pm you. I am boarding a plane for Mexico in about 10 minutes but I will get back to you next week if you need me to.

Edited by SammyJ 2012-03-05 11:03 AM
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SammyJ
Posted 2012-03-05 11:00 AM (#109275 - in reply to #109197)
Subject: Re: Lowering a Vision


Cruiser

Posts: 96
Princeton, IL
Hawaii - try this.
http://www.vision-riders.com/articles.asp?article=16671
I did not remove the rear wheel, but I did remove the lower link and shock bolts and jacked up the bike for easier access to the block off plate in front of the rear wheel.
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johnnyvision
Posted 2012-03-05 6:04 PM (#109305 - in reply to #109197)
Subject: Re: Lowering a Vision


Visionary

Posts: 4278
You don't have touch the shock bolts what so ever. As far as adjustable thread don't bother. Just cut the rod and re weld. Like the man said 1/2" equals 1"
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Redd
Posted 2012-03-05 6:18 PM (#109307 - in reply to #109197)
Subject: RE: Lowering a Vision


Cruiser

Posts: 73
Nor Cali
After reading all these responses...and thanks to all...I'm not gonna lower my Vision 8 Ball. I'm going with the Burt Reynolds look instead. Dropped my boots off at the Cobbler...having 1/2" added to the soles and heels. That outta do the trick, and it's allot cheaper.
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Chef John
Posted 2012-03-05 6:26 PM (#109308 - in reply to #109197)
Subject: Re: Lowering a Vision


Cruiser

Posts: 66
Delray Beach, FL United States
<p>Am I the only tall guy here? Wow I would love to raise my ride about an inch!  then don't have to worry about anything in a parking lot!! Just saying</p><p> </p>
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opas ride
Posted 2012-03-05 6:34 PM (#109310 - in reply to #109197)
Subject: Re: Lowering a Vision


Tourer

Posts: 500
Redd...Good thinking....I am also barely 5'9" and had some issues with my Vision Tour's seat height..It was almost fine until I dumped it two times the first year...Thanks to the great Tip-over guards, no damage to bike at all...I went to the 8-ball seat and to the shoemaker and had 1/2" heels and soles added to my boots for $65 and "whalla"....No problems with getting both feet down solid at stops and the 8-ball seat is great for me...Just as comfortable as the stock seat and much better lower back support IMHO......
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