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Lojak
Posted 2012-01-24 9:50 AM (#106028 - in reply to #106021)
Subject: RE: The Dark side review


Cruiser

Posts: 255
New Brunswick , Canada
witchbiker - 2012-01-24 9:35 AM

Thomas

I put mine on the opposite, bolts going UP, for fear that the bolts would hang too far into the wheel well. Also if I want to remove the trunk, I can without disturbing the hitch.

?



Did the same here :-)
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Thomas
Posted 2012-01-24 10:17 PM (#106084 - in reply to #106021)
Subject: RE: The Dark side review


Central Wisconsin
witchbiker - 2012-01-24 7:35 AM

Thomas

I put mine on the opposite, bolts going UP, for fear that the bolts would hang too far into the wheel well. Also if I want to remove the trunk, I can without disturbing the hitch.

 

 Sounds like a good idea if you want to take the trunk off.
  If I was to take my trunk off, my wife would not ride on the Vision and I would probably be seeing double vision or not have any vision...lol!
  The tire would rub on the hitch doc frame before it was to touch the threaded bolts/nuts in the wheel well.

 

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King Bagger
Posted 2012-01-25 10:38 AM (#106105 - in reply to #84361)
Subject: Re: The Dark side review


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 27
Big Sky
I have a Bridgestone Protenza GO 19 with 10k on it and really like it. It's time for a new front tire. Looking at the Michelin Pilot radial or the Dunlop E3r. What front tire works the best with a CT?

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cchristo
Posted 2012-01-28 10:03 AM (#106291 - in reply to #84361)
Subject: Re: The Dark side review


Tourer

Posts: 337
san antonio, tx
I think when the time comes, I'm going to try a CT. Does anyone have any suggestions as to where I can get one mounted near San Antonio?
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Blue Sky Guy
Posted 2012-08-21 10:19 PM (#121922 - in reply to #84361)
Subject: Re: The Dark side review


Tourer

Posts: 329
scotts valley, California
Before my 4000 mile Sturgis run, I mounted the Michlen Alpen on the back with a Metzler on the front. I am pretty happy with both except for on little detail. Someone on the forum had made a comment about the factory front tire looking just a tad small for the Vision and had installed the next size up on his bike, apparently successfully. I agreed and did the same. Nice ride! Going up Donner Pass about 85-90mph, I noticed a smell like burning rubber and being the not so bright chap that I am, assumed the smell was from trucks going the other direction. Below 85, the smell went away. Over 85, the darn trucks started smelling again. It took me two days and about a thousand miles to figure out that the trucks were innocent. A couple of bottom out type of bumps that made a tire yelp sound clued me in, and I finished the trip at under 85mph. It was not until I was in Sturgis that a guy asked< "Hey, what happened to your fender, man?" There was a hole burned clear through right on tdc of the front fender. I took the fender off and mailed it home.

Anyone else have this problem? or am I the only dummy in the bunch?
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aaronrkelly
Posted 2012-08-21 11:00 PM (#121924 - in reply to #121922)
Subject: Re: The Dark side review


Tourer

Posts: 395
Moravia, IA
Blue Sky Guy - 2012-08-21 10:19 PM

Anyone else have this problem? or am I the only dummy in the bunch?


....raises hand.....yep - been there dont that.

Cept I figured it out a bit faster....lol.

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Thomas
Posted 2012-08-21 11:50 PM (#121925 - in reply to #121922)
Subject: Re: The Dark side review


Central Wisconsin

Blue Sky Guy;  I'm running a rear sport tire on front - Bridgestone Battlax BT45V 140/70v/18 without any fender problems.

I remember it was Nozzledog that had a front fender problem with a Metzler too.



Edited by Thomas 2012-08-21 11:51 PM
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aaronrkelly
Posted 2012-08-21 11:52 PM (#121926 - in reply to #84361)
Subject: Re: The Dark side review


Tourer

Posts: 395
Moravia, IA
Im also running the "wider" battlax on the front - plenty of room......super tire, Ive defeintely found my "combo".

Bridgestone Battlax on the front

Bridgestone Potenza G019 Grid on the rear.....185/55-16
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Nozzledog
Posted 2012-08-22 12:16 AM (#121927 - in reply to #84361)
Subject: Re: The Dark side review


Visionary

Posts: 1229
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
It was me, I posted the question - Was anyone running a wider tire on the front?
http://www.vision-riders.com/bb/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=9762&sta...
and got back the response - Yes, running a Battlax 140/70 without problems. I found out after about 100 miles that the Metzeler 140/70 is about 1/2" taller than the 140/70 Battlax. Got a beautiful hole in the top of my fender.
I posted warnings on several threads, guess it didn't help.
I'm still running the Metzeler, sans fender. When it wears down enough, I have a HMD fiberglass fender to put back on.
Love the feel of the 140 width though. Don't know if the Battlax will fit under the HMD fender, so it will be back to 130's for me.... too bad.

Edited by Nozzledog 2012-08-22 12:23 AM
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Blue Sky Guy
Posted 2012-08-22 12:37 AM (#121929 - in reply to #84361)
Subject: Re: The Dark side review


Tourer

Posts: 329
scotts valley, California
So, we have a new marketing opportunity.... We need a cool little hood ornament to mount over the hole.... Or should I say fender ornament.

Actually the Bobber Vision look isn't that bad. I think I'll just leave that fender off at least until the Metzler wears out.
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aaronrkelly
Posted 2012-08-22 12:43 AM (#121930 - in reply to #121929)
Subject: Re: The Dark side review


Tourer

Posts: 395
Moravia, IA
Blue Sky Guy - 2012-08-22 12:37 AM

So, we have a new marketing opportunity.... We need a cool little hood ornament to mount over the hole.... Or should I say fender ornament.

Actually the Bobber Vision look isn't that bad. I think I'll just leave that fender off at least until the Metzler wears out.


I actually fabbed up some mounts and ran....gasp.....and HD metal fender.

Worked great and I actually liked it.....but then I hit a deer and it was one of the many casualties.

......running a new stocker now.
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varyder
Posted 2012-08-22 4:26 AM (#121932 - in reply to #121930)
Subject: Re: The Dark side review


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA

aaronrkelly - 2012-08-22 1:43 AM Blue Sky Guy - 2012-08-22 12:37 AM So, we have a new marketing opportunity.... We need a cool little hood ornament to mount over the hole.... Or should I say fender ornament. Actually the Bobber Vision look isn't that bad. I think I'll just leave that fender off at least until the Metzler wears out. I actually fabbed up some mounts and ran....gasp.....and HD metal fender. Worked great and I actually liked it.....but then I hit a deer and it was one of the many casualties. ......running a new stocker now.

this post is useless without pictures...

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aaronrkelly
Posted 2012-08-22 5:12 AM (#121933 - in reply to #121932)
Subject: Re: The Dark side review


Tourer

Posts: 395
Moravia, IA

varyder - 2012-08-22 4:26 AM

 

this post is useless without pictures...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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varyder
Posted 2012-08-22 6:30 AM (#121936 - in reply to #84361)
Subject: Re: The Dark side review


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
Ahhh, thank you. I recall where you posted the pictures when you did the switch. While that fender does look really good on the Vision, I would like to see a full skirt fender for the Vision, sorta Indianesque. I think it would go good with the rear full fender look as well. Still too bad we can't get white walls for the Vision.
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Rollin'
Posted 2012-08-22 7:48 AM (#121941 - in reply to #84361)
Subject: RE: The Dark side review


Iron Butt

Posts: 825
, WI

New tire?

Bridgestone Potenza run flat -

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Bridgestone&tireModel=Potenza+RE960AS+Pole+Position+RFT&partnum=955WR6RE960PPRFT&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes

.

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Thomas
Posted 2012-08-22 8:17 AM (#121944 - in reply to #121941)
Subject: RE: The Dark side review


Central Wisconsin
Rollin' - 2012-08-22 7:48 AM

New tire?

Bridgestone Potenza run flat -

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Bridgestone&tireModel=Potenza+RE960AS+Pole+Position+RFT&partnum=955WR6RE960PPRFT&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes

.

Steve the Bridgestone RunFlat looks good and will probably last more miles then the Dunlop Wintersport RunFlat. 

However a smaller width then 195mm is unavailable for those of us that have trailer hitches installed.

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VBear
Posted 2012-08-22 1:20 PM (#121963 - in reply to #121944)
Subject: RE: The Dark side review


Cruiser

Posts: 54
Bancroft Ontario, Canada
Hi folks

I have 09 vision with hitch.....can't get 175 dunlop runflats in Ontario Canada....what other GOOD CT can i run understanding my width parameters because of hitch?

Thanks

VBear
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walmarty
Posted 2012-08-22 2:01 PM (#121964 - in reply to #85397)
Subject: Re: The Dark side review


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 36
coweta ok
there's a product called ride-on that not only balances your tires but will also seal any kind of puncture. I run a potenza 195-55-16 with ride-on and nitrogen, ride is smoother than ever, rode 1600 miles to AVR and back, almost puts me to sleep, very much like this set-up I hem and hawed over doing this for 2 years, glad I did it.
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walmarty
Posted 2012-08-22 2:03 PM (#121965 - in reply to #85361)
Subject: Re: The Dark side review


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 36
coweta ok
Glad to see you went dark. I left spirit lake at 620 sun am and rolled into the driveway at 7pm sun 650 miles, shoulda keep going and pulled a Rollin
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Thomas
Posted 2012-08-24 10:11 AM (#122096 - in reply to #121963)
Subject: RE: The Dark side review


Central Wisconsin

VBear - 2012-08-22 1:20 PM Hi folks I have 09 vision with hitch.....can't get 175 dunlop runflats in Ontario Canada....what other GOOD CT can i run understanding my width parameters because of hitch? Thanks VBear

The 185 width will clear the HitchDoc. I haven't rode on a Bridgestone Potenza but guys are reporting good results.

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Boots
Posted 2013-09-05 2:18 PM (#144129 - in reply to #84361)
Subject: RE: The Dark side review


Tourer

Posts: 599
New Mexico
sgiacci - 2011-04-19 10:34 PM

Braking feels a little better (or is it), and I find that I?m using more rear brake than I did in the past.? Since the front and rear are tied together I found that when I clamp on the rear brakes the whole bike will pull down and the front will begin to dive.? I couldn?t get the bike to do this with the old tire, because it would break traction before the front would start to dive. ?


Just a word of warning as I am on my second ct.
Was getting my front tire replaced today and they told me my right front brake pad was down to <10%. Left and rear pads (all replaced at the same time) were fine. I can only assume because of the linked brake system, and my using the rear brakes more due to the better stopping power of the ct, my linked right front brake wore down much quicker than I expected.

Another thing to keep an eye on.
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sgiacci
Posted 2014-10-06 4:01 PM (#167214 - in reply to #84361)
Subject: RE: The Dark side review


Tourer

Posts: 401
I switched back to a MT.

A little over 3 years and 26,000 miles on the CT, and I had to retire it (no pun intended). It wasn't worn at all, but I felt it wasn't going to be safe to ride on in Italy. Italy has too many cobblestone roads, and if the CT followed in cracks in the US I could only guess what it would be like here.

The bike is still on the slow boat over here, but I did ride on the CT for a few weeks before I left.

The most important observation I could make was just how much I was over correcting in order to get the CT into a turn. That translated into my almost running into the curb a number of times as well as cutting turns a bit sharper right after I had the MT installed. Simply put, the Vision turns with little to no effort using a MT versus a CT, period. I also found that I had more confidence in rubbing the floor boards too.

BUT, there is still one big issue I will still need to over come in Italy - WET TRACTION. After being so used to the top notch wet traction on the CT, I almost got into trouble on the MT in wet conditions in Virginia. So much so it really pissed me off. Do tire MFG's really expect touring riders to never ride in the rain? I have a huge problem now, because the roads in southern Italy can get VERY slippery (as I found out in my Jeep) when they get wet, and the roads do not drain very well.

Now I'm stuck trying to find a good wet weather tire that can handle cobblestone roads, and I just can't find one that will fit a Vision. Any real world experience and suggestions would be great.
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