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atvtinker
Posted 2010-03-29 11:07 PM (#56011 - in reply to #55940)
Subject: Re: Good speaker upgrade option:


Tourer

Posts: 466
Grand Cane, LA
Arkainzeye, I've been running my Infinitys since summer of '09 and have not had a problem with the speakers or the amp in the radio. I even drove through the Mojave Desert and to the Hoover Dam with the temperatures in the 110's and haven't messed up anything yet. My Infinitys say they are 2 ohm but they show a little more than that with a meter. All depends on how the manufacturers list them. I've tried 2 sets of 4 ohm speakers from very reputable sources and none of them were even as loud as the factory speakers although the sound was clearer. It's only when I went to 2 ohm that the volume came back. You can try it for yourself.
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Arkainzeye
Posted 2010-03-30 3:00 PM (#56087 - in reply to #42388)
Subject: Re: Good speaker upgrade option:


Visionary

Posts: 3773
Pittsburgh, PA
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=267-7026

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Jedi Jeff
Posted 2010-07-15 1:18 PM (#64601 - in reply to #42388)
Subject: RE: Good speaker upgrade option:


Fountain Inn, SC United States
Some of the viable 2-way speakers mentioned in several threads on the site have what seem to be tweeters that extend beyond the front plane of the woofer.

For instance: Polk Audio db521, Infinity reference series 5032cf (see the Inifinity photo below). Both speakers are 5.25" 4ohm, 92+db spl so I'm seriously considering them but don't want to run into fitment issues.


Joe H, did this create a problem when trying to mount the Polks to the back of the speaker grille?

Has anyone install the Inifinitys and had a problem?




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atvtinker
Posted 2010-07-18 10:47 PM (#64821 - in reply to #64601)
Subject: RE: Good speaker upgrade option:


Tourer

Posts: 466
Grand Cane, LA
Here is a picture of the Infinity speakers I used. They are listed as 2 ohm. Did not have a problem with the speaker grill. I believe the tweeters on mine stick out further then the 5032's

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rainryder
Posted 2010-07-20 7:19 PM (#64926 - in reply to #42388)
Subject: RE: Good speaker upgrade option:


Tourer

Posts: 444
Bay of Gigs, WA
I got a 2000 watt inverter left over from my last motorhome. If I plug it in, I can maybe run my old Kenwood driver. With a set of JBL monitors, it should bump. Now I just got to buy one of those Hitchdoc hitches to haul it all.
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Jedi Jeff
Posted 2010-07-27 3:08 PM (#65594 - in reply to #64601)
Subject: Re: Good speaker upgrade option:


Fountain Inn, SC United States
Update: My Vic tech that's installing the Polk db521 speakers says they won't fit within the plastic speaker enclosures. He says the speakers are too deep and/or the magnet is too large. Has anyone encountered this and how did it get resolved?
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Lotzafun
Posted 2010-07-27 4:20 PM (#65608 - in reply to #42388)
Subject: Re: Good speaker upgrade option:


Iron Butt

Posts: 935
Rockford, IL
Jeff-

Check this link http://picasaweb.google.com/victoryvisiontour/2008VictoryVisionSter... from victoryvisiontour's post here in this thread http://www.vision-riders.com/bb/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=2301&sta...

I think it might be the solution to your problem.
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Jedi Jeff
Posted 2010-07-28 8:38 AM (#65674 - in reply to #42388)
Subject: Re: Good speaker upgrade option:


Fountain Inn, SC United States
David - thanks, that does help.
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adolfoch
Posted 2010-10-03 12:55 PM (#70879 - in reply to #55951)
Subject: Re: Good speaker upgrade option:


Cruiser

Posts: 179
CARTAGENA Spain
Hi all, I'm from Spain and the translation will not be quite correct but I hope you get me. In final speaker you recommend me, I will not mount any amplifier and nothing like I just want some speakers that sound better than carrying the bike show as a whining sound is whether to buy the JM or model and tell me fit on the bike tell me brand and model to buy online thanks.

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Ralph
Posted 2010-10-03 7:25 PM (#70897 - in reply to #42388)
Subject: Re: Good speaker upgrade option:


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 27
I received a Kuryakyn catalog in the mail and they have a set of Kicker speakers that are 5 1/4" and do not have a large magnet on them so the fitting shouldn't be a problem. They are expensive...$249.00 a set, but if you don't need a new amp and they sound better it would be a good solution. Has anyone had the opportunity to hear these?
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adolfoch
Posted 2010-10-05 1:53 PM (#71050 - in reply to #42388)
Subject: Re: Good speaker upgrade option:


Cruiser

Posts: 179
CARTAGENA Spain
jeff, 've tried the infinity for I also am interested in them, I think back no problem installation but not on the front, if you know tell me or others that can be installed without having to put an amplifier

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alohaboy
Posted 2010-10-13 8:34 PM (#71594 - in reply to #42531)
Subject: Re: Good speaker upgrade option:


Cruiser

Posts: 216
Danville, CA
I concur. Pricey, but if you want the cleanest and the best, this is it. 2 speakers work perfect.. You can't really hear the rears anyway, since they are behind you. I had this setup on my ultra too and just did the fronts and I was sold. So when I sold my Ultra and bought my vision, that was the first thing I did.

Just my 2 cents... or 75,000 cents.. Good luck..
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Joe H
Posted 2010-10-13 10:18 PM (#71602 - in reply to #42388)
Subject: Re: Good speaker upgrade option:


Cruiser

Posts: 72
Eyota, MN
I used the Polk db521 in the front of my bike and the magnet is a little deeper than the stock ones (about 1/2 in. or so ) but I did get them to work. I took a heet gun and melted the enclosure to be a little bigger. They sound pretty good.
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Jedi Jeff
Posted 2010-10-14 9:06 AM (#71620 - in reply to #42388)
Subject: Re: Good speaker upgrade option:


Fountain Inn, SC United States
I've had the Polk db521's in the front for several months now. When the rear tour pack was on, it had stock speakers and I would frequently do A/B comparisons with the fader to hear the difference. As an old sound engineer, I can say the Polks have better clarity and frequency response which is good & bad. They are as efficient (if not slightly more) than stock speakers (Polks: 93db spl vs Stock: 92db spl) but it is barely noticeable. What is noticeable is that I hear distortion more in the Polks. I attribute this to the speaker being ABLE to reproduce more lower frequencies than stock speaker, and therefore showing the limitations of the radio's amp (14 watts) which is driven to distortion when trying to pump out bass while riding (auto-volume on). When parked, and at lower volumes, the Polks clearly sound better (again clarity across the frequency range). The bigger magnet in the Polks must just suck up more wattage from the amp. I am considering installing a booster amp for the front speakers.

On a side note, I was talking with Victory engineers about the speaker enclosures. One said he was told by another engineer , an acoustician that designed the enclosures, that if the free space in the enclosures was filled with some acoustic dampening material (similar qualofil in sleeping bags), it would have the effect of dramatically increasing the acoustic volume of the enclosure and bass response of the speaker. Any acousticians out there that can verify this property? I'll have to hunt down my old acoustic reference books.




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nailer
Posted 2010-10-14 10:38 AM (#71621 - in reply to #42388)
Subject: RE: Good speaker upgrade option:


Tourer

Posts: 366
Albuquerque, NM
When I was replacing my rear speakers, I thought about putting some type of dynamat material behind the speaker to seal the enclosure openings. The openings are so oddly shaped that it would be difficult to install and there would need to be some type of drain needed should water seep in behind the speaker. Future project/experiment....
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lennyb
Posted 2010-10-14 1:21 PM (#71634 - in reply to #42388)
Subject: Re: Good speaker upgrade option:


Iron Butt

Posts: 804
Perry Hall, MD
Not sure if it is what you are looking for but earlier someone (sorry can't recall who to credit) recommended speaker baffles from:

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-bZysoWsSUkJ/p_237XT55/XTC-5-1-4-Speake...
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nailer
Posted 2010-10-14 1:48 PM (#71636 - in reply to #42388)
Subject: RE: Good speaker upgrade option:


Tourer

Posts: 366
Albuquerque, NM
I've got 5 1/4" baffles from Parts Express in there now but some the volume of the baffles is lost due to the curve in the outside of the trunk. I had to bend the baffles on the outsides to get them to fit. I believe more enclosure volume with increase the bass. I'll post the results of the dynamat material install shortly.
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Dain
Posted 2010-10-15 5:21 AM (#71668 - in reply to #42388)
Subject: RE: Good speaker upgrade option:


Cruiser

Posts: 144
Charbin, they will tell you anything to sell an $800 system. If you look in the tech referance on this site my speaker amp upgrade is in there as some have done it and none of us have any trouble with the charging system. I just went on a 2 day trip with everything on hand grips heated seat front and back HID beam radio and amp blairing away the needle for the charging system stayed in the same spot it always does. Please read my write up I am trying to save you $500 bucks since the cost is only $300. Dain
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trailbarge
Posted 2010-10-15 11:30 AM (#71678 - in reply to #71668)
Subject: RE: Good speaker upgrade option:


Tourer

Posts: 363
Goldsboro, NC
Dain - 2010-10-15 6:21 AM
Charbin, they will tell you anything to sell an $800 system. If you look in the tech referance on this site my speaker amp upgrade is in there as some have done it and none of us have any trouble with the charging system. I just went on a 2 day trip with everything on hand grips heated seat front and back HID beam radio and amp blairing away the needle for the charging system stayed in the same spot it always does. Please read my write up I am trying to save you $500 bucks since the cost is only $300. Dain
I think maybe the charging system is one of those things with hit-or-miss quality. If I run my heaters + HID headlight on the 12 mile trip to work and another 12 home after work, I can not start my bike in the morning unless I charge the battery. I think that's woefully bad, especially since you can do all that AND have an amp running without any worries.
I am on my third battery.
I am not sinking any more money into this bike. I am trusting that the Vic engineers have worked out enough bugs since '08 that it will be worth it to buy new again.
Anyway... I'm just saying that you can't generalize charging system capacity on a small sample set. T^he variance is too high to have a decent confidence interval.
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radioteacher
Posted 2010-10-15 12:37 PM (#71681 - in reply to #42388)
Subject: Re: Good speaker upgrade option:


Visionary

Posts: 3006
San Antonio, TX
trailbarge,

I commute 7.5 miles to work and the same back home every day for a 15 mile round trip. It takes about 15 to 20 minutes each way.

I almost never exceed 50 mph on this trip and I never turn off the HID light. For the last week I have used the heaters in the morning but not on the way home. Finally I am on the same battery that I bought with the Vision from July 2008.

That being said....I am thinking that you have a charging system issue.

Ride Safe
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Magic
Posted 2010-10-15 2:12 PM (#71685 - in reply to #42388)
Subject: RE: Good speaker upgrade option:


Cruiser

Posts: 171
San Antonio, Texas

trailbarge,

I'm with Paul (Radioteacher). I commute 26 miles round trip every day to work. I run my radio constantly, have run my grip heaters each day this week coming to work, have my HID "on" all the time (the more light, the better--please, SEE ME!) and still run my original 2008 battery. You may have a charging problem.

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southjerseyrider
Posted 2011-05-27 3:34 PM (#87277 - in reply to #42452)
Subject: RE: Good speaker upgrade option:


Tourer

Posts: 308
Vineland, NJ United States

were they direct fit or did you have to make modifications to fairing and/or trunk?

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