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sgiacci
Posted 2010-08-09 3:20 PM (#66767 - in reply to #63585)
Subject: RE: CycleOps Color Matched Uppers and Lowers


Tourer

Posts: 401
OH CRAP, brain storm just happened.

How about making some pull off protectors like the ones used on race windshields, and MX goggles!!!
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CycleOps USA
Posted 2010-08-09 4:34 PM (#66776 - in reply to #66766)
Subject: RE: CycleOps Color Matched Uppers and Lowers


Tourer

Posts: 323
N. Miami, Florida
sgiacci - 2010-08-09 4:18 PM

BTW, I already traded in my invisable ones in for the visable ones, and the visable ones work much better.

Have it your way, but if you run into any invisible wind you'll be sorry you didn't have the right ones on!

 

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CycleOps USA
Posted 2010-08-09 4:37 PM (#66777 - in reply to #66767)
Subject: RE: CycleOps Color Matched Uppers and Lowers


Tourer

Posts: 323
N. Miami, Florida

sgiacci - 2010-08-09 4:20 PM OH CRAP, brain storm just happened. How about making some pull off protectors like the ones used on race windshields, and MX goggles!!!

Now that, my friend, would add oodles and oodles to the fugly factor for sure! Unless you plan on doin' some mud boggin' on your Vision that is.

 

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sgiacci
Posted 2010-08-10 8:10 PM (#66846 - in reply to #66777)
Subject: RE: CycleOps Color Matched Uppers and Lowers


Tourer

Posts: 401
CycleOps USA - 2010-08-09 4:37 PM

sgiacci - 2010-08-09 4:20 PM OH CRAP, brain storm just happened. How about making some pull off protectors like the ones used on race windshields, and MX goggles!!!

Now that, my friend, would add oodles and oodles�to the fugly factor for sure! Unless you plan on doin' some mud boggin' on your Vision that is.

�

UGLY!  Are you saying you are not up to the challenge?  I'm disappointed.

My Vision is a tool and it might get cleaned every 3,000mi., and a tool like rip offs would work for me.  Hell let's go one step further, how about doing it for the windshield too.

As an artist I respect your work Will, but much of it isn't my taste.  That's ok, you have a good group of folks who love your stuff.

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ebayjoe
Posted 2010-08-10 8:33 PM (#66851 - in reply to #63585)
Subject: Re: CycleOps Color Matched Uppers and Lowers


Cruiser

Posts: 113
East Ohio
the newer ssg look much better than the original ones that came darker than the bike, but better than the black

go super steel
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CycleOps USA
Posted 2010-08-10 8:48 PM (#66855 - in reply to #66846)
Subject: RE: CycleOps Color Matched Uppers and Lowers


Tourer

Posts: 323
N. Miami, Florida
sgiacci - 2010-08-10 9:10 PM CycleOps USA - 2010-08-09 4:37 PM

sgiacci - 2010-08-09 4:20 PM OH CRAP, brain storm just happened. How about making some pull off protectors like the ones used on race windshields, and MX goggles!!!

Now that, my friend, would add oodles and oodles to the fugly factor for sure! Unless you plan on doin' some mud boggin' on your Vision that is.

UGLY!  Are you saying you are not up to the challenge?  I'm disappointed.

My Vision is a tool and it might get cleaned every 3,000mi., and a tool like rip offs would work for me.  Hell let's go one step further, how about doing it for the windshield too.

As an artist I respect your work Will, but much of it isn't my taste.  That's ok, you have a good group of folks who love your stuff.

I didn't take your comments as any sort of bashing so I don't understand the sudden tone of your post. Steven, I was simply playing and bantering with you, which seem tlike you may have mistaken for something else, so I just want to be sure you know there was nothing intended in my post to warrant that. I appreciate the respect for the work and do know I don't expect my parts to be to everyones' tastes, their needs, or their budgets for that matter. That would be impossible and I'm a realist. As a fellow artist you well understand we all have a certain style all our own or we wouldn't be considered artists in the first place, right? Do we sometimes deviate some, but that core style defines us from others.

Many have sought for me to make simpler, more utilitarian items, and I'm just not into most of those types of items. As a custom item for someone, sure, but not such production parts. I prefer to let the creative juices flow and enjoy doing what I like to do.  

I'm sure you'll also agree that many can do common cookie cutter parts and designs and I like to think of mine as a bit more innovative in one way or another, original and fresh in design and/or artwork, and quality engrained it them from concept to completion. All I can do beyond that is hope that enough out there do like them and feel them worthy to add to their bikes.

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VaParadox
Posted 2010-08-10 10:11 PM (#66863 - in reply to #63585)
Subject: Re: CycleOps Color Matched Uppers and Lowers


Iron Butt

Posts: 1158
Richmond, Virginia
If you want, I will get some more pics posted up here tomorrow of my painted ones. FYI I too thought the exact same way at first, i thought that the uppers and lowers on the bike would alter its design form. After a season of burning my legs from engine heat, I decided that
after seeing a pair of clear ones on a gray VV, I could "stand" the look. In all honesty, in about 2 days, I didnt notice them anymore and actually thought that the lowers added a "fin" to the bottom of the bike which was pretty cool. I also noticed that once moving, they cleared out all of that engine heat and at that point I didnt care what they looked like LOL. The subject became sore when I cracked my plastic ones from an "ever so gentle" opening of them to wash them. Then i cussed like the sailor i used to be "GD PIECES OF GD SHIT blah blah blah. I had heard from several of you who had your crack, and thought "well now i will just baby mine and it wont happen to me" WRONG !
CycleOps to the rescue, I can tell you guys (even you cheap guys), BUY THEM ! Its a great fit and finish and one less thing you will
NEVER have to worry about again.
Will post more pics tomorrow.
Mac
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sgiacci
Posted 2010-08-11 12:01 AM (#66873 - in reply to #66863)
Subject: Re: CycleOps Color Matched Uppers and Lowers


Tourer

Posts: 401
VaParadox - 2010-08-10 10:11 PM

If you want, I will get some more pics posted up here tomorrow of my painted ones. FYI I too thought the exact same way at first, i thought that the uppers and lowers on the bike would alter its design form. After a season of burning my legs from engine heat, I decided that
after seeing a pair of clear ones on a gray VV, I could "stand" the look. In all honesty, in about 2 days, I didnt notice them anymore and actually thought that the lowers added a "fin" to the bottom of the bike which was pretty cool. I also noticed that once moving, they cleared out all of that engine heat and at that point I didnt care what they looked like LOL. The subject became sore when I cracked my plastic ones from an "ever so gentle" opening of them to wash them. Then i cussed like the sailor i used to be "GD PIECES OF GD SHIT blah blah blah. I had heard from several of you who had your crack, and thought "well now i will just baby mine and it wont happen to me" WRONG !
CycleOps to the rescue, I can tell you guys (even you cheap guys), BUY THEM ! Its a great fit and finish and one less thing you will
NEVER have to worry about again.
Will post more pics tomorrow.
Mac



Please post more pics, you might just sway me. Different angles, with them open and closed would be awesome.
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sgiacci
Posted 2010-08-11 12:34 AM (#66874 - in reply to #66855)
Subject: RE: CycleOps Color Matched Uppers and Lowers


Tourer

Posts: 401
CycleOps USA - 2010-08-10 8:48 PM

sgiacci - 2010-08-10 9:10 PM CycleOps USA - 2010-08-09 4:37 PM

sgiacci - 2010-08-09 4:20 PM OH CRAP, brain storm just happened. How about making some pull off protectors like the ones used on race windshields, and MX goggles!!!

Now that, my friend, would add oodles and oodles to the fugly factor for sure! Unless you plan on doin' some mud boggin' on your Vision that is.

UGLY!� Are you saying you are not up to the challenge?� I'm disappointed.

My Vision is a tool and it might get cleaned every 3,000mi., and a tool like�rip offs�would work for me.��Hell let's go one step further, how about doing it�for the windshield too.

As an artist I respect your�work Will, but much of it isn't my taste.� That's ok, you have a good group of folks who love your stuff.

I didn't take your comments as any sort of bashing so I don't understand the sudden tone of your post. Steven, I was simply playing and bantering with you, which�seem tlike you may have mistaken for something else, so I just want to be sure you know there was nothing intended in my post to warrant that. I appreciate the respect for the work and�do know I don't expect my parts to be to everyones' tastes, their needs, or their budgets for that matter. That would be impossible and I'm a realist. As a fellow artist you well understand we all have a certain style all our own or we wouldn't be considered artists in the first place, right? Do we sometimes deviate some, but that core style defines us from others.

Many have sought for me to make simpler, more utilitarian items, and I'm just not into most of those types of items. As a custom item for someone, sure, but not such production parts. I prefer to let the creative juices flow and enjoy doing�what I like to do. �

I'm sure you'll also agree that�many can do common cookie cutter parts and designs and I like to think of mine as a bit more innovative in one way or another, original and fresh in design and/or artwork, and quality engrained it them from concept to completion. All I can do beyond that�is hope that�enough out there�do like them and feel them worthy to add to their bikes.

Tone? No tone, I'm having fun with you too.  So we can continue to banter each other.  Here goes.

Your not into plastics, so I didn't have any real expectations of you to do some cheap china plastic guards.  You caved to quickly there pal, and got on the defensive.  Bantering - remember?  Not sure if you ever were in design school, but if you were your skin would be like elephant hind.  I got my ass handed to me many times over designs I did, and it made me pretty thick skinned.

Even though you haven't done a design I would buy (yet), I have seen your products in person, and they are built like brick sh1t houses.  Your workmanship is top notch - keep it up.  A few years ago I was considering having you fabricate some designs I had for my bike, but I didn't think I could afford you.  So I didn't, and besides I like to support local workers when I can.  This is really moot, considering I just bought a 3rd bike (Vision), an I don't think I will have any money soon.  Unless you want to trade your machine work for the rights of some of my designs (CAD).

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CycleOps USA
Posted 2010-08-11 11:31 AM (#66906 - in reply to #66874)
Subject: RE: CycleOps Color Matched Uppers and Lowers


Tourer

Posts: 323
N. Miami, Florida
sgiacci - 2010-08-11 1:34 AM CycleOps USA - 2010-08-10 8:48 PM

sgiacci - 2010-08-10 9:10 PM CycleOps USA - 2010-08-09 4:37 PM

sgiacci - 2010-08-09 4:20 PM OH CRAP, brain storm just happened. How about making some pull off protectors like the ones used on race windshields, and MX goggles!!!

Now that, my friend, would add oodles and oodles to the fugly factor for sure! Unless you plan on doin' some mud boggin' on your Vision that is.

UGLY!� Are you saying you are not up to the challenge?� I'm disappointed.

My Vision is a tool and it might get cleaned every 3,000mi., and a tool like�rip offs�would work for me.��Hell let's go one step further, how about doing it�for the windshield too.

As an artist I respect your�work Will, but much of it isn't my taste.� That's ok, you have a good group of folks who love your stuff.

I didn't take your comments as any sort of bashing so I don't understand the sudden tone of your post. Steven, I was simply playing and bantering with you, which�seem tlike you may have mistaken for something else, so I just want to be sure you know there was nothing intended in my post to warrant that. I appreciate the respect for the work and�do know I don't expect my parts to be to everyones' tastes, their needs, or their budgets for that matter. That would be impossible and I'm a realist. As a fellow artist you well understand we all have a certain style all our own or we wouldn't be considered artists in the first place, right? Do we sometimes deviate some, but that core style defines us from others.

Many have sought for me to make simpler, more utilitarian items, and I'm just not into most of those types of items. As a custom item for someone, sure, but not such production parts. I prefer to let the creative juices flow and enjoy doing�what I like to do. �

I'm sure you'll also agree that�many can do common cookie cutter parts and designs and I like to think of mine as a bit more innovative in one way or another, original and fresh in design and/or artwork, and quality engrained it them from concept to completion. All I can do beyond that�is hope that�enough out there�do like them and feel them worthy to add to their bikes.

Tone? No tone, I'm having fun with you too.  So we can continue to banter each other.  Here goes.

Your not into plastics, so I didn't have any real expectations of you to do some cheap china plastic guards.  You caved to quickly there pal, and got on the defensive.  Bantering - remember?  Not sure if you ever were in design school, but if you were your skin would be like elephant hind.  I got my ass handed to me many times over designs I did, and it made me pretty thick skinned.

Even though you haven't done a design I would buy (yet), I have seen your products in person, and they are built like brick sh1t houses.  Your workmanship is top notch - keep it up.  A few years ago I was considering having you fabricate some designs I had for my bike, but I didn't think I could afford you.  So I didn't, and besides I like to support local workers when I can.  This is really moot, considering I just bought a 3rd bike (Vision), an I don't think I will have any money soon.  Unless you want to trade your machine work for the rights of some of my designs (CAD).

Okey Dokey then, no harm, no foul. As an Italian Type A Ex-NYer, my skin's tougher than elephant hide due to a good tanning growing up . Too many things get misconstrued when playing around with someone on forums and just wanted to be sure things weren't misconstrued, that's all.

Never did the design school thing, I'm pretty much self taught, having graduated the School of Hard Knocks and then on to an advanced degree at Catatonic State. I was big into art growing up, from charcoals, to oil painting and everything in between including lots of doodling. That combined with being a highly schooled mechanic with a gear head mind, coming up with things is only limited by the imagination.

If you ever want to pick back up on turning those designs into a reality let me know as my resources have expanded greatly since we last spoke about it.

As for your kind words on my goods, I thank you and am glad you felt that way as coming from someone else who turns thoughts into realities it means a lot.

 

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marcparnes
Posted 2010-08-25 12:16 PM (#67860 - in reply to #63585)
Subject: RE: CycleOps Color Matched Uppers and Lowers


Iron Butt

Posts: 802

Just wanted to add my $.02. I originally ordered Will's lowers in order to insure that I didn't have trouble with the plastic ones since I like to use my feet to adjust them. Much to my surprise not only did they get rid of the plastic breakage potential but they look fantastic on the bike. So much so that I subsequently ordered the uppers as well. What I really like is that they kind of disappear when you look at the bike (which is black on black) from the side whereas the plastic ones stuck out like a sore thumb. Even my wife who doesn't usually notice or care about stuff like this, walked by the bike in the garage yesterday and stopped to tell me how much better it looked even though at first she didn't quite know why.

Anyway, I highly recommend getting a set. Lotsa bank for the buck

Marc

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varyder
Posted 2010-08-25 1:26 PM (#67865 - in reply to #63585)
Subject: Re: CycleOps Color Matched Uppers and Lowers


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
I have not purcahsed any from Will yet, I will say they look to be the best aftermarket for the Vision. IF I were to go with the lowers, it would definitely be color match from cycleops. Now if he could do real metal chrome or color match passenger grabs that would be the deal.
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CycleOps USA
Posted 2010-08-25 1:58 PM (#67870 - in reply to #63585)
Subject: RE: CycleOps Color Matched Uppers and Lowers


Tourer

Posts: 323
N. Miami, Florida

Marc, I thiank you a ton for the kind words, it's been a pleasure meeting you and doing business you, so do know it's all been greatly appreciated.

And Chris, from my understanding those handles are plastic, ABS, or similar, right? I though Mac (VaParadox) already offered those in chrome? If he's not using the regular triple chrome (copper/nickel/chromium) I do have a guy who works in conjunction with my regular chromer to do regular chrome on plastic if you want it. As for powder coating, for obvious reasons that wouldn't work on anything non-metallic.

 

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varyder
Posted 2010-08-25 2:28 PM (#67871 - in reply to #63585)
Subject: Re: CycleOps Color Matched Uppers and Lowers


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
I'm talking about a set made with metal, not plastic. I know it would be difficult but thought you'd be up for the task at a reasonable cost.

Edited by varyder 2010-08-25 2:29 PM
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CycleOps USA
Posted 2010-08-25 2:42 PM (#67872 - in reply to #67871)
Subject: Re: CycleOps Color Matched Uppers and Lowers


Tourer

Posts: 323
N. Miami, Florida

Gotcha. They're pretty long and with the thickness will require quite a good sized chunk of material, and a lot of machining time to do them, so I'm not sure they'll fall into an acceptable price range with all that involved.

Casting them in a mold is a different story, but also with a big initial set up cost initially to make the molds for metal as they'd have to be made of steel to handle the melting of aluminum.

Something fabricated in a different way though may work out cheaper. Like possibly cutting them out with the waterjet, but then doing the final shaping by hand (which is still somewhat labor intensive and time consuming), and then drilling and tapping to add the mounting studs.

If I knew there was going to be a big enough market I'd consider looking into it further.  

 

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varyder
Posted 2010-08-25 3:03 PM (#67873 - in reply to #63585)
Subject: Re: CycleOps Color Matched Uppers and Lowers


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
that's it, I was thinking a different shape too, a sweep back looking like a 59 caddy fin but not as pronounced and flowing with the Vision lines.
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stretch1956
Posted 2010-08-27 10:43 AM (#68041 - in reply to #63585)
Subject: RE: CycleOps Color Matched Uppers and Lowers


Cruiser

Posts: 82
Fargo, ND
Will,
My hat (helmet) is off to you . I got my lowers and installed them ... MAN WHAT A DIFFERENCE!!!
They not only enhance the lines of the bike, they work so much better than the stock ones. I dont worry about moving them with the toe of my boot (size 17). The plastic ones seem to cringe every time my boot came close. They got so scared they actually flew off my bike on my way to sturgis. I guess Victory had a problem with a batch of 3m tape that came with them. Victory came thru and replaced them no questions asked. They didnt even want the pieces I salvaged from the highway after their flight. I was able to find all of the hardware needed to mount CycleOps' blades. I returned the factory set for a full refund and ordered my lowers from you Will. I ended up saving about $50,00 and I am stoked! They look great. I will be ordering the uppers very soon.
Stretch
2009 VV tour Premium
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CycleOps USA
Posted 2010-08-27 2:22 PM (#68056 - in reply to #68041)
Subject: RE: CycleOps Color Matched Uppers and Lowers


Tourer

Posts: 323
N. Miami, Florida

stretch1956 - 2010-08-27 11:43 AM Will, My hat (helmet) is off to you . I got my lowers and installed them ... MAN WHAT A DIFFERENCE!!! They not only enhance the lines of the bike, they work so much better than the stock ones. I dont worry about moving them with the toe of my boot (size 17). The plastic ones seem to cringe every time my boot came close. They got so scared they actually flew off my bike on my way to sturgis. I guess Victory had a problem with a batch of 3m tape that came with them. Victory came thru and replaced them no questions asked. They didnt even want the pieces I salvaged from the highway after their flight. I was able to find all of the hardware needed to mount CycleOps' blades. I returned the factory set for a full refund and ordered my lowers from you Will. I ended up saving about $50,00 and I am stoked! They look great. I will be ordering the uppers very soon. Stretch 2009 VV tour Premium

Thanks a lot Stretch, very kind of you to say all that and I'm thrilled to hear that you feel that way. There's nothing I like more than hearing my customers total satisfaction with their parts. How about some pics and show 'em off some????

 

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