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Iron Butt
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North Orange County CA | Arkainzeye - 2010-12-14 9:46 AM
i dont know much about the venture, is it the bike that is still carbed and has a cassette player?
YUP, a cassette player is archaic; but for that matter so is a 10 disc CD changer, which is offered by Victory for the incredible low price of $599.00. |
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Tourer
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Bay of Gigs, WA | Whatever...
To me, the early Venture [of which I rode two, both 1983's, together about 95,000 miles, 57,000 on the first, when it started popping out of second when I got on it, so I sold it and found a 6,000 mile example identical to the first, go figure, both black cherry almost just like my Vision Street and 38,000 on the second, when all my friends got on my ass about the ancient stuff I was riding so I decided to upgrade] was a better 'Wing, and it was very fast and reliable, the carbs gave me zero grief, only the front fork irked me. They both had linked brakes which were no problem, either, though I never felt they were strong enough to brag about-no stoppies on those bikes.
The second gen Ventures looked like a cross dresser Harley wannabe to me, only detuned so they wouldn't challenge the V-Max like the first gen nearly would, so unless you got a killer deal on one, they never really piqued my interest, even though there's a lot of bling available for them.
The Victory handles way better at low speed, less top heavy, the motor is not water cooled, so I never again need to experience the discomfort of the temp gauge creeping toward the red zone or the fan coming on in traffic. That's worth a lot.
The YICS system of getting on the cam which nearly ripped the bike out from under you is something I miss from the Venture, though, as is surprising sportbikes by spanking them with my wife on the back. I know there's at least one 900 Ninja rider [okay, I holeshot him], an 1100 Shadow guy and a slug of Roadking, Streetglide and Roadglide riders wondering how they got whupped by a bagger that had the looks of a two wheeled Buick.
But the Vicky, well, like someone else said earlier, the torque down low is a hoot, too. VV4me.
Edited by rainryder 2010-12-14 3:02 PM
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Visionary
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Memphis | I totally get why some people don't pick the Vision. Passenger comfort is important and if she likes one seat over the other, she has a huge say on the final pick. We've read about people who have taken one ride on a Vision and based the whole decision on that one ride. We've watched people on this very forum buy the Vision early in the game only to sell it later on. They really wanted to like it, but in the end there were too many issues with either mechanicals or dealer support or whatever.
For every person (pilot or pillion) who was turned off by the initial impression, there are a bunch more who were blown away at the other end of the scale. I think the Vision forces you to choose before you even take your first ride. If you are looking for something totally out of the box and are willing to do what it takes to make it work, it can change your life. If you go into it looking for a reason to keep what you have and are comfortable with, the Vision will give you every excuse you need to stay in the box.
This thread isn't about Vision vs Venture, it's about Vision vs any other bike on the planet. I totally get life in the box. The rest of my life is very comfortable there. |
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Visionary
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | Now if Yamaha ( I mean Star ) Haha, would put the new 102 cu in fuel injected V max motor in an updated Venture they would have something, even de-tuned a little for torque it would be a monster............. |
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Tourer
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Columbia, SC | Or why not the V-star Stratoliner engine? Venture's got great options, apparently a WONDERFUL seat for rider and passenger, and every option included in it's MSRP. Just a small engine for such a big bike and could use some updating. Carburated? It's 2010! I understand keeping a carburater on a bike to mkeep it low-cost. But shouldn't that be for people looking for a budget bike? Ninja 250 (which even THAT is fuel-injected now), KLR, stuff like that. But your TOURING model?! The "cream of the crop"? C'mon now! |
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Visionary
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Pittsburgh, PA | Tarpits99 - 2010-12-14 1:45 PM
Arkainzeye - 2010-12-14 9:46 AM
i dont know much about the venture, is it the bike that is still carbed and has a cassette player?
YUP, a cassette player is archaic; but for that matter so is a 10 disc CD changer, which is offered by Victory for the incredible low price of $599.00.
yeah but i believe the 10cd is a OPTION you dont have to buy and doesnt come standard? i dont even know when i purchased a car that came with a cassette player. do they still sell albums on cassette?? but aside from the 1980 stereo system.. is it true about the NO fuel injection or did they update that recently? |
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Cruiser
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Litchfield Park, AZ | Venture is still carburated. As for Star's 113 C.I. engine, it would be an option but they would absolutely have to put a 6 speed transmission mated up to it, as that was one of my top complaints on my Roadliner was the vibration/buzzing above 3000 RPM. |
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Cruiser
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Salt Lake City | The main reason I decided on a Vision was that my 5-8 sweetheart could ride all day in and still love it. We tried other "tour" bikes, but the Vic just fit her right; interesting sidelight-the bike is also the only motorcycle I've wrapped my 6-9 265 lb. frame around in complete comfort. She sat on the back of my bro-in-law's heavily customized '09 RK for about 200 mi. in Tenn. this summer, and gave everyone heck about wanting to get back home so she could ride in comfort again! Even after adding a backrest, she's still happy..... |
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Cruiser
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| wilsondude - 2010-12-15 10:48 AM The main reason I decided on a Vision was that my 5-8 sweetheart could ride all day in and still love it. We tried other "tour" bikes, but the Vic just fit her right; interesting sidelight-the bike is also the only motorcycle I've wrapped my 6-9 265 lb. frame around in complete comfort. She sat on the back of my bro-in-law's heavily customized '09 RK for about 200 mi. in Tenn. this summer, and gave everyone heck about wanting to get back home so she could ride in comfort again! Even after adding a backrest, she's still happy..... Right. How a motorcycle fits each of us or a couple is a very personal thing. My wife is 5'10" and loves the Vision passenger area, room and comfort. One of the main reasons we bought it. I agree with all this from the rider/drivers stand point. Mike |
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Cruiser
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| I rode my 01 Venture for 50K trouble free miles even with its old school carbs. In those 50K miles not one pop from the exhaust (w/aftermarket pipes), not once did it die when I downshifted to come to a stop, nor did it try to die when I was upshifting.
Don't get me wrong, I love my Vision, but if a carb conversion kit were available and it would make it as driveable as my Venture I would do it in a heartbeat.
I really feel that $20K+ motorcycle should not have the driveability issues that the '08 Visions have and I really think that Victory should at least act like they care about fixing the problem. |
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Visionary
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Pittsburgh, PA | savage - 2010-12-17 5:19 AM
I rode my 01 Venture for 50K trouble free miles even with its old school carbs. In those 50K miles not one pop from the exhaust (w/aftermarket pipes), not once did it die when I downshifted to come to a stop, nor did it try to die when I was upshifting.
Don't get me wrong, I love my Vision, but if a carb conversion kit were available and it would make it as driveable as my Venture I would do it in a heartbeat.
I really feel that $20K+ motorcycle should not have the driveability issues that the '08 Visions have and I really think that Victory should at least act like they care about fixing the problem.
i had that surging/stalling ONLY after i installed another muffler and air filter setup. i never had popping or stalling until i did that.. now that stopped after i installed a power commander. hasnt stalled or anything since.. =) but for me the bottom line was, it was 100% fine until i started to put my hands in it. |
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Tucson , AZ | Sorry .... but once you have ridden the Vision... its kinda spoils you about the rest. The other tour bikes are nice all in their own right. I can not get over how top heavy some of the other bikes are. I guess i really depends on what type of riding you really plan on doing. If you are going to do any intown riding on the bike... its going to get old concentrating so hard on manuevering that bike in slow traffic. I have ridden some bikes that do ride beautiful on the highway ( for example the Wing).
My girl is 5'8" , really long legs. She says most the other models do not let her stretch out her legs as much as the Vision... they tend to bend her knees to much. My bike does not have a trunk.... so she can adjust up or back as needed.
Bottom line you need to buy what feels comfortable to you.. what will make you and your wife happy. This is why they make so many bikes....theres one for everyone. I agree..... there is no such thing as a "bad bike". |
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Iron Butt
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New York State | I have an 08 Tour Prem and the Trans was very clunky when new and it did get better but it still clunky. My Triumph has a very smooth transmission.
I was hoping the 2011"New Trans" was going to be better. But I have not heard anything good |
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Vision Tourer vs Yamaha Venture
