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| Vicbuilder - 2012-12-14 4:18 AM I've never personally seen it, but there were a few cases of filter breakdown on Lloyds old foam style top filter. If you have one of those old foam filters from Lloyd and it does break down, send it back and he'll send you his new cotton (K&N) style filter for free to replace it. Thanks, mine seems to be working fine. My HD friends comment on the noise but it reminds me of the cowl induction cars. |
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Princeton, MN | Has anyone ever calculated the "filter" comparison in sq inches between the foam top and the new top? Just installed the new top and as far as Im concerned it IS quieter. I put about 20k on the old top filter, after cams pulling even more air through I put the new one on,,, I like!  Thanks again Rylan for great work...as I filled up yesterday a couple of hd pulled up and started to fill/talk. He said he just likes the true sound of a hd. I said that's nice,,, finished filling and leter rip.... I could see him pointing at me as I drove off and talking to his buddy next to him,,, made a believer! and thanks Lloyd for great products! |
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Albuquerque, NM | Just installed Lloyd's top filter. Plugs look like my vision is running rich. No pop on decal but pops on upshifts when I don't return throttle to min. Thinking of not unplugging the O2 sensors and checking the plugs. Anyone do the upgrade but no unplug the O2's?
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| I have the Ness filter and get 44 mpg if I stay under 70 mph with 02's hooked up.
Yes I get popping on up shifting but have learned ho to avoid the popping. Try doing a mild speed shift. The more you get use to doing the mild speed shift you'll find it very easy to eliminate the popping. (Kevinx told me that)
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Central Maryland | johnnyvision - 2013-06-08 7:03 PM
I have the Ness filter and get 44 mpg if I stay under 70 mph with 02's hooked up.
Yes I get popping on up shifting but have learned ho to avoid the popping. Try doing a mild speed shift. The more you get use to doing the mild speed shift you'll find it very easy to eliminate the popping. (Kevinx told me that)
By the way once your spark plugs are black they will stay that way. Unless you clean them with a small wire brush; re-gap, and re-install them. Gives you another chance to evaluate your plugs in the future. I have done this twice now, on my Vision.
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Albuquerque, NM | johnnyvision - 2013-06-08 5:03 PM
I have the Ness filter and get 44 mpg if I stay under 70 mph with 02's hooked up.
Yes I get popping on up shifting but have learned ho to avoid the popping. Try doing a mild speed shift. The more you get use to doing the mild speed shift you'll find it very easy to eliminate the popping. (Kevinx told me that)
By the way once your spark plugs are black they will stay that way.
Thanks jv,
Will give speed shifting a shot. Will run the plugs thru my harbor freight sp cleaner. Should be able to tell if I need to unplug the O2`s.
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Albuquerque, NM | I want to find out how my vision runs with the O2 sensors unplugged. Easily located the rear cylinder sensor cable/conn. underneath the left side panel below the seat. It's a little more difficult to trace the front O2 sensor cable underneath the body panels. I did find an identical connector underneath the panel between the seat and the console. Can anyone confirm that the conn in the pic below is the front O2 conn...thnx
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Visionary
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Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators | nailer - 2013-08-10 11:17 AM
I want to find out how my vision runs with the O2 sensors unplugged. Easily located the rear cylinder sensor cable/conn. underneath the left side panel below the seat. It's a little more difficult to trace the front O2 sensor cable underneath the body panels. I did find an identical connector underneath the panel between the seat and the console. Can anyone confirm that the conn in the pic below is the front O2 conn...thnx
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Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators | willtill - 2013-06-08 7:11 PM
johnnyvision - 2013-06-08 7:03 PM
I have the Ness filter and get 44 mpg if I stay under 70 mph with 02's hooked up.
Yes I get popping on up shifting but have learned ho to avoid the popping. Try doing a mild speed shift. The more you get use to doing the mild speed shift you'll find it very easy to eliminate the popping. (Kevinx told me that)
By the way once your spark plugs are black they will stay that way. ? Unless you clean them with a small wire brush; re-gap, and re-install them. Gives you another chance to evaluate your plugs in the future.? I have done this twice now, on my Vision.
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Central Maryland | kevinx - 2013-08-10 12:45 PM
willtill - 2013-06-08 7:11 PM
johnnyvision - 2013-06-08 7:03 PM
I have the Ness filter and get 44 mpg if I stay under 70 mph with 02's hooked up.
Yes I get popping on up shifting but have learned ho to avoid the popping. Try doing a mild speed shift. The more you get use to doing the mild speed shift you'll find it very easy to eliminate the popping. (Kevinx told me that)
By the way once your spark plugs are black they will stay that way. ? Unless you clean them with a small wire brush; re-gap, and re-install them. Gives you another chance to evaluate your plugs in the future.? I have done this twice now, on my Vision.
Avoid steel brush on spark plugs
Steel brush on threads and face, avoid the ceramic insulator where the electrode is....
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Albuquerque, NM | kevinx - 2013-08-10 10:43 AM
nailer - 2013-08-10 11:17 AM
I want to find out how my vision runs with the O2 sensors unplugged. Easily located the rear cylinder sensor cable/conn. underneath the left side panel below the seat. It's a little more difficult to trace the front O2 sensor cable underneath the body panels. I did find an identical connector underneath the panel between the seat and the console. Can anyone confirm that the conn in the pic below is the front O2 conn...thnx
That is a front o2 plug on an 08
thanks kevx,
I noticed that since I've disconnected the O2 sensors, the bike seems to run a little hotter than it used to. I've read conflicting statements that say disconnecting the sensors makes it run both richer and leaner. Which is it? Will check the plugs! (running lloyds upper air filt, stage 1 map/air filter, muscle muffler/no baffles) |
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Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators | Unplugging o2 moves it to open loop, and makes it run richer period. If it is hotter; it is either weather related, or something else is going on |
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