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Anyone figure out how to disable auto-canceling turn signals yet?
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Cap'n Nemo
Posted 2011-09-16 1:02 PM (#96798 - in reply to #96794)
Subject: Re: Anyone figure out how to disable auto-canceling turn signals yet?


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New Bohemia, Va
Offensive, defensive, it is a mind-set. I'm riding to get to my destination and hold off the idiots until I get there. I'm not out there to overtake anyone, I just ride, and perhaps some may consider that I ride hard. One thing I notice in the tactic of backing off and letting them get down the road, is that sometimes they want to play the game with you. I've actually gone miles with some idiot playing the game, even though I backed way off. By riding the way I do I feel I'm keeping them from getting the touch-down, and I'm on down the road away from them. Just how I feel.
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donetracey
Posted 2011-09-16 1:26 PM (#96799 - in reply to #96648)
Subject: Re: Anyone figure out how to disable auto-canceling turn signals yet?


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Pitt Meadows, BC Canada
Cap'n - I ALWAYS ride faster than the 'pack'. Any slower - and you're IN the pack where they WILL try to kill you. And slower than the pack - is even worse cuz the idiots will pass you, then slow down and ogle - pass again ... all kinds of dangerous crap. I get in front - then slow down, keeping the pack at bay - behind me, and not gaining too fast on the pack in front. Lone Wolf I call it. Signalling is less important then, because there is no one around to see it anyway and I will have completed my turns before anyone can do something silly to me.
Of course - sometimes you can't avoid the pack - so you use all the right things to stay alive. For me - this also includes SONGFAN'S 99 LED brake lights, signals, hand signals, and out-and-out menacing glares. Stay alive!
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varyder
Posted 2011-09-16 1:30 PM (#96800 - in reply to #96799)
Subject: Re: Anyone figure out how to disable auto-canceling turn signals yet?


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New Bohemia, VA
donetracey - 2011-09-16 2:26 PM

Cap'n - I ALWAYS ride faster than the 'pack'. Any slower - and you're IN the pack where they WILL try to kill you. And slower than the pack - is even worse cuz the idiots will pass you, then slow down and ogle - pass again ... all kinds of dangerous crap. I get in front - then slow down, keeping the pack at bay - behind me, and not gaining too fast on the pack in front. Lone Wolf I call it. Signalling is less important then, because there is no one around to see it anyway and I will have completed my turns before anyone can do something silly to me.
Of course - sometimes you can't avoid the pack - so you use all the right things to stay alive. For me - this also includes SONGFAN'S 99 LED brake lights, signals, hand signals, and out-and-out menacing glares. Stay alive!


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Nozzledog
Posted 2011-09-17 3:22 AM (#96871 - in reply to #96648)
Subject: Re: Anyone figure out how to disable auto-canceling turn signals yet?


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Rancho Cucamonga, CA
I think Ark is on the right path, what you are describing is NOT how they should be behaving. Get a dealer involved.
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varyder
Posted 2011-09-17 5:44 AM (#96872 - in reply to #96796)
Subject: Re: Anyone figure out how to disable auto-canceling turn signals yet?


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New Bohemia, VA
Arkainzeye - 2011-09-16 2:00 PM

Shoot... I forgot to mention this.... When I got my 2011 that day I had turn signal issues! They would turn off way to soon!! And it got worse a worse to where they would stay on for 2 seconds... So I took the bike to the dealer and they said my turn signal module was bad... So under warranty it was replaced . And now its normal.


if this is the case - have the dealer check it out!
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Thomas
Posted 2011-09-27 9:31 PM (#97928 - in reply to #96794)
Subject: Re: Anyone figure out how to disable auto-canceling turn signals yet?


Central Wisconsin

sfalexi - 2011-09-16 12:44 PM ...That's my problem. With non-canceling turn signals, there WAS no thinking. Click to start when you're ready to start signaling. Complete the turn, and push to cancel after you're done. That's it. One push to start, and (for me at least) three pushes to make sure it's canceled. Automatic reaction EASILY put in my brain. Now I HAVE to think and have to pay LESS attention to the road because I simply CANNOT predict when the turn signal is going to cancel itself. Sure I cankeep my thumb pressed against it throughout the turn (which makes it difficult to use the clutch to downshift before a turn and I'm not comfortable not having my thumb wrapped around the bar when I let go of four fingers to pull a clutch lever). Or I can keep my eyes going from the road to my signal indicator so I can push it again whenever it DOES cancel. Or I repeatedly press my thumb to initiate it over and over and over and over again. Which should be unnecessary for ANY rider. If that flasher module is really only 60 bucks, I'm VERY tempted to do some research on the wiring of the bike and am going to try blocking some pins or wires. There's GOT to be a way. Alexi PS - I know it's wierd, but auto canceling at this point has become a major factor for future purchases. Everyone has their pet peeves. Some DEFINITELY want heated handgrips, some need a topcase, some want to be able to turn off traction control or ABS, etc. etc. I'm just sorely disappointed that for THIS particular bike, it's such trouble to disable it. Most bikes you can easily add or disable these features, and it's frustrating that this bike is SO customizable, except you have to keep a "luxury" feature such as this and there's no way to override it. Silly. Why do they force to except a complex system instead of allowing you the option of going back to a KISS (Keep it simple) method? This is Victory's version of the KIPASS for the Kawasaki Concourse. Unnecessary complex technology to accomplish a simple task that every rider should EASILY be able to accomplish, or be able to learn to accomplish on their own. PPS - Made sure to take note today of how it worked while riding. As I was riding at about 35 mph, I put the right turn signal on and started to slow down. Downshifted to 3rd, and the it turned off at about 28 mph, after going about 30 feet. Had to put it back on. Completed the right turn at about 20 mph, sped up, and it turned off at about 30 mph after I had been going straight for about 30 feet (but far after I would have canceled it myself if I hadn't been testing the auto cancel)

 

I got this response back from a Victory representative.

In 09 the auto-cancel function moved from a separate module into the engine ECM. It cancels the signals earlier at slow speeds than 08 & previous Victory models but works fine in most situations. It was changed again in 2010. Unfortunately there?s nothing that can be done to change it on an 09.






Edited by Thomas 2011-09-27 9:34 PM
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