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Cruiser
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Houston, Tx | Any using Avon grips? I really like the look of the Air Cushion (heated) grips, website is here. Wondering a few things:
(1) Would they fit ?
(2) Are they compatible with the Vision wiring and work properly for the high/low toggle we have?
(3) .... if they work, any difference in the amount of heat pushed out? Meaning... does it seem warmer then the OEM grips or not? Thanks! |
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Visionary
Posts: 4278
| In the past I had kuryakyn air grips with heat demon heaters They worked ok but I don't think they work as good as stock cause of the air pockets.
To much air in the pockets for sure.
http://www.heatdemons.com/ |
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Cruiser
Posts: 208
Wichita, Kansas | I was one of the lucky early buyers who got a street with no heated grips. I mounted these under the stock grips. Been using them for three years now with no problems. Cheap and easy to install. Could be used to fix a stock unit that ceased wotking also. For a switch I just bought a replacement grip heater switch from my dealer and installed it. Looks stock, works great, costs less. Hard to argue with. http://www.symtec-inc.com/External-Handlebar-Warmer-Kit-Motorcycle-RR_p_89.html Google motorcycle grip heaters and there are some out there now for about $30.
And yes, I know Victory and others offer heaters, I know there are other full grip heaters, and yes I know I could have done something different. All I'm saying is I used these and they work.
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Cruiser
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Houston, Tx | I'm sure there are hundreds of alternatives, I just mentioned these because I like the LOOK of them and thought about swappin out my stock grips which are in perfect condition and work great! More a personal cosmetic change while hoping to keep the functionality... that's why i posed this question.
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Visionary
Posts: 4278
| In Texas I would think it gets that cold and you could be just fine. Up here when its 40 you want all the warmth you can get. Go for it and if you don't like them sellem. |
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Visionary
Posts: 3006
San Antonio, TX | Trust me in Texas I use the heated grips and seats every late fall and/or early spring.....we do not have a winter here. We just have Fall, Spring, Summer and AUGUST.
Happy August everyone! |
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Iron Butt
Posts: 612
| BlueByu - 2011-08-15 8:39 AM
Any using Avon grips??? I really like the look of the Air Cushion (heated) grips, website is here. Wondering a few?things:
(1) Would they fit ?
(2)?Are they compatible with the Vision wiring and work properly for the high/low toggle we have??
(3)? .... if they work, any difference in the amount of heat pushed out?? Meaning... does it seem warmer then the OEM grips or not? Thanks!
I installed these grips in place of my OEM heated grips a little over a week ago. They are AWESOME! The feel of these grips far surpasses the little skinny factory grips. They relieve that feeling of having to squeeze the throttle with gloves on, allowing you to relax your hand, and with the throttle boss version, just lay your hand flat across the grip.
Additionally, while they take longer to heat up than the OEM grips (probably due to the extra thickness), they do get just as hot if not hotter.
However, there is a catch... the 4-way digital heat controller supplied with them has a programming anomaly. For whatever reason, they were programmed to not exceed 54% power on the highest setting. The other three settings range downward in about 8-10% increments. I contacted Symtec / Heat Demon about this and apparently the tech I talked to had just discovered this "issue" himself fairly recently. He sent a few of the units back to the programmers to have reprogrammed to 25%, 50%, 75%, and 100%. I have received the first of these and will be trying it on a friend's Vision. (I opted for a different heat control mechanism that I like much better).
So, long story short, if you bought the Avon heated grips, and don't think they get hot enough, you may wish to contact Symtec and ask if you can send your controller in to get reprogrammed... OR.... do what I did, and wire them up to the Vision's OEM toggle switch! I routed one power lead directly to the high side of the switch, and another through a pot style pulse width modulator (PWM) to the low side of the switch (remember that on a toggle switch, the connectors are opposite of which way the switch is thrown). Basically, I can switch between full high, or a variably configurable low using the on board switch. You could also just throw a 2.4ohm 20watt resistor inline on the low side (instead of the PWM), which would give a single setting low, just like the functionality of the OEM grips.
resistor--> http://www.hotgrips.com/store.php?crn=204&rn=162&action=show_detail
pwm --> http://www.hotgrips.com/store.php?crn=201&rn=390&action=show_detail
cheaper pwm --> http://www.kicklighting.com/PWM-dimmer-switch-for-LED.htm
Edited by Turk 2012-02-21 8:27 AM
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Cruiser
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Danville, CA | Awesome feedback. Thanks alot.. I to love the grips, but felt they weren't super hot as I would have liked, so I am on the phone now getting them to send me a new controller.. I love this site... and gotta love the internet for sharing information. |
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Tourer
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northwest florida | no, haven't used th eheated grips but I have used Avon's Wild Country aftershave to start a campfire one time. |
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Visionary
Posts: 1229
Rancho Cucamonga, CA | Finished installing my grips.
I used a 3" T-bracket and cut down the the tabs to fit behind the heat controller along with drilling two holes in the proper spots. The holes in the body of the T lined up perfectly to the bolts that hold the radio controls on. After it was mounted, I bent the T slightly so that everything was flush.
The controller is wired to the ground side of the setup and it was easy to add a switched wire bypassing the controller to get 100% heat. That switch is my old OEM heated grip switch. So, I have 24%,34%,44%,54% and when I throw the switch, 100%.
I find these grips much more comfortable that the OEM ones. A little thicker and softer too.
No matter WHAT heated grip you use, I recommend getting or making a 1/4 turn throttle ring. The wires heating up the grip will not have to travel nearly as far and wear out. I made one out of 2 1/4" PVC pipe. Not quite as wide as Lloydz, more like a 3/8 turn throttle ring.
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Puddle Jumper
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| Nice setup. |
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Anyone using Avon heated grips???
