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Indianapolis, IN | Tarpits99 - 2011-08-13 1:11 PM Over the last 3 years, there have been literally hundreds of posts on the issue of Vision handling in wind, truck wash, over tar snakes, etc. Many people who were new to the Vision (myself included) experienced "problems" only to discover that the easiest way to eliminate the issue is to "loosen up" and let the bike do what it was designed to do. The Vision is very responsive to rider input (even unintentional input) . At almost 6'5" I am the biggest sail on my bike and when I notice the bike doing odd things on the highway I take one hand off the bars and inevitably the issue goes away because i am no longer hanging on the bars and transferring every movement of my body to the front wheel. I also know that when I first started riding the Vision the effect of buffeting from airblasts from high profile vehicles caused me to tighten up and try and "control" the bike more which only seems to exacerbate the problem. So before you start "wishin' for bad luck", try the "relax" idea and see how it works, then go looking for a mechanical problem if you need to. Sorry some of y'all didn't like my attempt at humor. +2 When I test rode my first vision it was unsettling because it was a spring day and there was a lot of wind gusting about. A year later I bought flash and the ride home from the dealer was again a little unsettling, mostly because I wasn't used to the shear size, and therefore nervous and strung a little like a banjo string. I don't exactly know when I settled down, but 17 months later I can't understand what made me so nervous or feel like the bike was in control of me. Just the other day I made a comment in the middle of a conversation about this same topic as it applies to bikes in general that I have never been more at ease on a bike than I am on my vision. I told him I don't think I've ever ridden a more stable bike in my life. As a matter of fact when I want to feel at ease going down the interstate with my wife on the back I just lean back against her just a little, set the cruise and lay my right elbow on top of her right leg. The bike just sails down the highway utterly smooth without effort, and this includes passing or being passed by semis. Hang in there guys, soon enough you too will be at ease and one with your two wheeled lady and she will carry you securely down the road. |
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Iron Butt
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Orlando, FL | Tarpits, loved the humor, sorry it offended a few. And thanks for reminding me to lighten up on the grip. You are correct in that every movement we make transfers to the bike whether intended or not. Thanks for a good post. |
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san antonio, tx | Turk - 2011-08-13 5:53 PM
john frey - 2011-08-13 5:29 PM
I think the feeling is amplified due to the cocoon effect of the body work....insulating the rider from the turbulence. So, while I don't feel the turbulence, the bike does... whereas with my old pin, the turbulence pushed me around more than it did the bike.
I think that's a good point, and I never thought of it. When riding, our bodies act as a sensor to external forces like wind. After riding for a while, we automatically make minute corrections based on that input with very little concious thought or effort.
Eliminate or reduce that sensory input and you lose the ability to make those automatic adjustments.
Interesting insight.
And my vote is that the Dear Abby poem is funny and not meant as a slam, for what it's worth. |
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Fort Walton Beach, FL | MaddMAx2u - 2011-08-13 10:54 PM
Tarpits, loved the humor, sorry it offended a few. And thanks for reminding me to lighten up on the grip. You are correct in that every movement we make transfers to the bike whether intended or not. Thanks for a good post.
Tarpit's "humor" was meant as an insult, not constructive in any way whatsoever... the discussion as it were was about the bikes not the persons riding the bikes. He made it personal with his inferences... if you wish to further the personal aspect, buy a Vision Tour bike (which is the bike addressed in this thread) and experience the ride on this model for yourself before showing your ignorance and chiming in on something you have no personal experience with... your bike is NOT a Vision Tour and has very different handling characteristics.
Secondly, the "humor" is projected in such a way as to discourage open discussion among owners and riders of the VISION TOUR bike. It has the implication to shut down the less brave poster lest he be ridiculed further. THERE'S JUST NO NEED FOR IT IN OUR OPEN DISCUSSION... WE CANNOT KEEP YOU FROM POSTING, BUT WE CAN TELL YOU THAT YOUR POST TO "DEAR ABBY" IS NOT WELCOME AND IF YOU HAVE NO BENEFICIAL IDEAS OR COMMENTS... STAY OUT OF IT. |
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Iron Butt
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Perry Hall, MD | Have to ask if those who are experiencing the twitchy sensation are riding with the tour pack? The design of the curb coming into my driveway is mandated by the county and quite frankly it sucks. Ruins spoilers on low riding cars and scrapes my tailpipes. To compensate I go in and out at a 30 to 45 degree angle. When I'm pulling in at that angle there is always a pretty good shake in the handlebars, but it comes as the rear tire hits the curb. I wonder if in the same way air turbulence around the trunk is being transferred to the front end? |
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Iron Butt
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Northeast Ohio | Handy, I experience what you describe on a regular basis. Similar to you, I came off a KP and noticed this right away. Buying my Vision Tour new, I was disturbed by how easily the Vision was pushed around by wind, how it tracked on uneven pavement and gets caught in tire ruts on the road. Like you, my KP NEVER did this. Not having the time to ride this year like the past few, It felt worse than ever lately. To the point I checked the torque on the steering nut, checked my wheel alignment and made sure the tire pressure was up. I can tell you; you will get used to the feeling. I am sure there is nothing wrong with your bike.
I remember meeting my wife for dinner one night. I met her at the restaurant, she was in her car and I rode the Vision. I asked her to watch me from behind on the way home for movement and she told me the bike wasn't moving at all. I think this movement is only enough for us to feel and not enough to be seen.
When folks ask me how the bike goes feels on the highway, I tell them it is like trying to push a piece of plywood thru the wind.
Edited by ScoreBo 2011-08-14 10:48 AM
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Twitchy Vision ?
