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Tarpits99
Posted 2010-01-27 10:57 AM (#52152 - in reply to #49272)
Subject: Re: Driving lamp test bike needed - Sacramento


Iron Butt

Posts: 742
North Orange County CA
I have officially given up trying to get a decent photo for you guys of the front of my Vision at night.

The wife says she's not going to stand in front of the bike any more because she's tired of spending evenings being snow blind.

I've tried shooting from as far away as 300 ft (beyond that street lights mess up the shot); Since every photo I take looks like somebody has just launched a photon torpedo, I obviously don't have the skills with my digital camera to do the job. So I guess you're just going to have to take our word that these are great lamps.

Now if I can just get over this uncontrollable urge I keep having to play with the "volume" control while riding. Maybe I should move it to the glove box where I can't touch it.

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Tarpits99
Posted 2010-01-29 2:30 PM (#52297 - in reply to #49272)
Subject: Re: Driving lamp test bike needed - Sacramento


Iron Butt

Posts: 742
North Orange County CA
Today being Friday, January 29th, I am reminded of the parable about lost opportunities and the somnambulant.

This is the last business day to take advantage of the Group Buy Pricing........ Tick, Tock!

sales@clearwaterlights.com
Glenn Stasky
President
Clearwater Lights
2546 Mercantile Drive Unit B
Rancho Cordova, CA 95742
916 852-7029
http://www.clearwaterlights.com

Edited by Tarpits99 2010-01-29 2:33 PM
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SongFan
Posted 2010-01-29 3:42 PM (#52301 - in reply to #49272)
Subject: RE: Driving lamp test bike needed - Sacramento


Visionary

Posts: 3204
Memphis
I just bought one of those cheapo Flip video cameras that is point and shoot with a built in usb to plug straight in to the 'puter and download.  First YouTubes will be the MOABL brake light and the Muth mirrors (next week, after the ice storm has passed).  As soon as I get the Clearwaters on, they will be next.
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SongFan
Posted 2010-05-12 3:28 PM (#59717 - in reply to #49272)
Subject: RE: Driving lamp test bike needed - Sacramento


Visionary

Posts: 3204
Memphis

After ordering them in January, I finally got my Clearwaters installed this morning.  (Nothing like a home re-model to derail the really important stuff.) 

Tarpits99 tips really saved me some time.  Namely, which spacers go where, the shiny/dull washers, and cutting down a hex wrench to fit in the space between the fender and bracket to adjust the lights.  I had one little glitch where I ended up calling Clearwater and trouble shooting until I found a loose wiring connection in one of the Posi-Twists. 

Here are my lessons learned: 

- Twist all the wires together before you put them in the Posi-Twist connections.

- There are two Posi-Taps.  One goes to the Yellow/Red wire for power (easy).  The other one goes to Green.  The problem is there are two Green wires in the bundle.  One light green (like the green wires with all the Clearwater stuff) and a dark Green wire.  The wire to tap is the dark Green wire.  That is for the relay that will cause the Clearwaters to go full on with the brights.  The light green wire in the bundle goes to the windshield.  While I was on the phone troubleshooting the loose connection I mentioned the two different green wires and told them that if I hadn't had a wiring diagram to check, I would have gone with the light green because it more closely matched all the other green wires from the Clearwater kit.  I think they will make a note with the next set of instructions.

- I spread everything out on the kitchen table ahead of time and tied it all together, Posi-Twists and all.  It took about 30 minutes for me to get it all sorted out in my head with the instructions right there.  You will end up with only three wire ends not connected:  The fuse wire (it's orange but they call it red - it taps into the Yellow/Red wire), the red wire from the relay (taps into the dark Green wire) and the black ground wire with the loop on the end to ground to the bike.  Everything else ties together; all the blacks tie together, all the reds tie together and all the greens tie together.

- I used Tarpits' handlebar mount location. Very handy having all of the lighting stuff on the left handlebar.

- I cut down an allen wrench that is totally dedicated to adjusting the Clearwaters if needed.

From the time I laid everything out on the table to everything buttoned up (including the 15 minute troubelshooting call) was about 2 hours.  I got my wife involved and had her adjust the lights with a carpenter square while I held the bike straight up.  All in all a great upgrade with obviously high quality parts.  The guy from Clearwater that answered the phone even remembered my name from January.  Great people.

I fiddled with the Clearwaters in traffic today when stopped at traffic lights.  I could see my reflection in the car ahead of me and would brighten/dim them just to see the difference.  I haven't used them at night yet but can't wait to try them out.  I'll hopefully get a video made of them on the road in traffic with the various modes just to see how much of a difference they make.

Thanks again to Tarpits99 and rldl12 for making all this happen in the first place.  One of the highlights of Vision-Rider lore in my book.

 



Edited by SongFan 2010-05-12 3:31 PM
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Tarpits99
Posted 2010-05-12 8:26 PM (#59743 - in reply to #59717)
Subject: RE: Driving lamp test bike needed - Sacramento


Iron Butt

Posts: 742
North Orange County CA
SongFan - 2010-05-12 1:28 PM

I fiddled with the?Clearwaters in traffic today when stopped at traffic lights.? I could see my reflection in the car ahead of me and would brighten/dim them just to see the difference.? I haven't used them at night yet but can't wait to try them out.? I'll hopefully get a video made of them on the road in traffic with the?various modes just to see how much of a difference they make.

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Songfan:

Your post reminds me that (5 months later) I still haven't stopped screwing with the "volume" control on my Clearwaters. I often find myself looking at the reflection in the back of the vehicle in front of me at stoplights and despite Glenn's admonition to set them and forget them I still "tweak" the settings.

Having a cool product like this is a little like having a loose tooth; you just have to mess with it, even if there is no good reason to do so.
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Tarpits99
Posted 2010-05-13 2:58 PM (#59797 - in reply to #49272)
Subject: Re: Driving lamp test bike needed - Sacramento


Iron Butt

Posts: 742
North Orange County CA
http://www.clearwaterlights.com/infopg_krista.html

New 3.7" LED driving lamps!!!
3 - 12 watt LEDS in the housing for an equivalent light output to 180W of halogen per lamp!

That's retina melting output with only 36 watts of draw. (stock PIAA = 35).


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rldr12
Posted 2010-05-13 3:45 PM (#59801 - in reply to #49272)
Subject: Re: Driving lamp test bike needed - Sacramento


Cruiser

Posts: 69
Citrus Heights, CA United States
And to think I was the only one to adjust time and time again. Just to cool to adjust and watch cagers looks when they see brighter and brighter lights approaching them lol
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Prostreet1
Posted 2010-05-13 4:13 PM (#59802 - in reply to #49272)
Subject: Re: Driving lamp test bike needed - Sacramento


Cruiser

Posts: 184
Allen Park, MI
Those are some sweet ass lights......but at $649...Holy #### I would have to get a second job!! Are they hiring over there by you guys??
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SongFan
Posted 2010-05-13 4:41 PM (#59804 - in reply to #49272)
Subject: RE: Driving lamp test bike needed - Sacramento


Visionary

Posts: 3204
Memphis

I got to do "show and tell" at my weekly "lunch-with-the-boys" yesterday.  While out and about today, my phone buzzed in my pocket.  When I got home, the call was from one of the guys who had been at lunch.  I called him back.  He had just seen me out on a local road, going in the opposite direction.  "Dude!  Those new lights are AWESOME!  All I could see was this UFO triangle coming towards the intersection!"  (I keep them on about 80% during the day.  Will try them after dark on the way home from work tonight.)  He said they were aimed perfectly and really broke me out of the crowd.  He is a BMW/IronButt guy and makes mods to every machine he has ever owned.  I could not have gotten a higher stamp of approval.  I know he's gonna get the Krista's just to one-up me.

Tarpits - The loose tooth analogy is perfect.  If they didn't want us to play with it, they shouldn't have made it adjustable!

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Tarpits99
Posted 2010-05-13 5:43 PM (#59806 - in reply to #59802)
Subject: Re: Driving lamp test bike needed - Sacramento


Iron Butt

Posts: 742
North Orange County CA
Prostreet1 - 2010-05-13 2:13 PM

Those are some sweet ass lights......but at $649...Holy #### I would have to get a second job!! Are they hiring over there by you guys??


With all that go fast stuff on your SSG you need these more than me!

In the current economy, the wife objects to "luxury" expenditures, lighting however is a "safety" expenditure which is why she applauded the "Glendas" and the MOABL.

How does the saying go?

"torque gets you there, horsepower keeps you there; but candlepower stops you from hitting shit you cant see".
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Tarpits99
Posted 2010-05-13 6:01 PM (#59807 - in reply to #59804)
Subject: RE: Driving lamp test bike needed - Sacramento


Iron Butt

Posts: 742
North Orange County CA
SongFan - 2010-05-13 2:41 PM

I got to do "show and tell" at my weekly "lunch-with-the-boys" yesterday.? While out and about today, my phone buzzed in my pocket.? When I got home, the call was from one of the guys who had been at lunch.? I called him back.? He had just seen me out on a local road, going in the opposite direction.? "Dude!? Those new lights are AWESOME!? All I could see was this UFO triangle coming towards the intersection!"? (I keep them on about 80% during the day.? Will try them after dark on the way home from work tonight.)? He said they were aimed perfectly and really broke me out of the crowd.? He is a BMW/IronButt guy and makes mods to every machine he has ever owned.? I could not have gotten a higher stamp of approval.? I know he's gonna get the Krista's just?to one-up me.

Tarpits - The loose tooth analogy is perfect.? If they didn't want us to play with it, they shouldn't have made it adjustable!



Songfan: Looking forward to getting your impressions of the lights at night. I love when I'm able to go to high beams.
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Tarpits99
Posted 2010-05-13 11:10 PM (#59829 - in reply to #49272)
Subject: RE: Driving lamp test bike needed - Sacramento


Iron Butt

Posts: 742
North Orange County CA
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SongFan
Posted 2010-05-14 1:31 PM (#59867 - in reply to #49272)
Subject: RE: Driving lamp test bike needed - Sacramento


Visionary

Posts: 3204
Memphis

I got off work at midnight last night and headed home on my 25 mile commute.  I had to turn the HID off to really get a feel for how bright the Clearwaters were reflecting off the road.  I ended up at about 50% and then turned the HID back on.  The last 10 miles of the commute are a split 4-lane with no streetlights at all.  I watched for signs ahead and when one came into range I would crank the Clearwaters up and down to see if they made the sign any brighter.  They are a little more powerful than the low beams but much more focused.

When I got into the town I live in I was approaching a traffic light where the left lane in front of me had four cars stopped and the right lane was wide open.  I got into the right lane and as I got to the rear of the fourth car, the car in front of him jerked into the right lane.  I was already slowing and had anticipated that one of those cars would move over so I was ready, but pissed that they cut it that close.  When the light turned green the car in front of me pulled away pretty aggressively.  Teenager on board.  It is 12:20 a.m.   I kept about two car lengths back but slowly started cranking up the Clearwaters (like boiling a frog).  I stayed in his left mirror and by the time they were full blast I could see his face lit up in the mirror like a stage spotlight.  He finally folded and pulled into a bank parking lot.  I cranked the Clearwaters back down to 50% and was home 2 minutes later.

Gotta love em.

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whinchey
Posted 2010-05-15 2:27 PM (#59929 - in reply to #49272)
Subject: Re: Driving lamp test bike needed - Sacramento


Cruiser

Posts: 135
Yellowknife, NT Canada
Would be nice if Clearwater did this group buy annually, say in January. Then people that came along after would have a chance at the discount. Perhaps it would significantly increase sales if people saw more of them on the bikes......
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Lv_2_ride
Posted 2010-07-21 7:12 PM (#65015 - in reply to #59929)
Subject: Re: Driving lamp test bike needed - Sacramento


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 31
Has anyone thought about mounting these somewhere in the cowling, so they're a little less conspicuous? Would there be problems with this kind of mounting?
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Tarpits99
Posted 2010-07-22 9:49 AM (#65051 - in reply to #49272)
Subject: Re: Driving lamp test bike needed - Sacramento


Iron Butt

Posts: 742
North Orange County CA
I think you should follow your muse and mount them wherever you please. There are a number of practical considerations to take in to account in addition to the aesthetic.

Vision bodywork is expensive and hard to replace (long waits) if you screw it up so follow the dictum measure twice, cut once.

Anything mounted in or behind the bodywork is still going to need mounting plates of some kind to allow for proper alignment (aiming the lights) and to keep the body panel from stressing and cracking over time. If you live in an area where it rains, then water infiltration may become an issue.

You also need to decide what type of lighting are you trying to achieve. Fog lights and marker lights work best when mounted low. "Down the road" illumination works better mounted higher. The Glendas were designed to provide a wider dispersion than a traditional "down the road" driving lamp . This makes them particularly effective as a marker style light, allowing them to create that UFO effect that SongFan writes about.

For "down the road" illumination you may want to consider the Krista lamps they are larger and more expensive but based on my experience with the Glenda lamps they ought to turn night into day. You also have more room to mount these higher in the fairing. Which is where they would be most effective anyway.

I'm sure some of the other guys on this site will have some insights/comments as well.

You also should talk to Glen at Clearwater, once you decide on what your trying to achieve, he's spent a lot of time designing these lights and mounting them on various motorcycles. He should have some good insights and in my experience is great to work with.

Good luck, and let us see the results, whatever you decide.



Edited by Tarpits99 2010-07-22 10:04 AM
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