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varyder
Posted 2008-03-02 4:21 PM (#6130)
Subject: How do you describe?


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
I was coming out from the restaurant as another gentleman was coming in. He simply asked "Is that yours?" I said yes. He went on to tell me how he liked it in person much better than the pictures, because the pictures make it look butt ugly. He also says he likes the overall look, but can't get used to the long tail. I ask him what does he ride and he say a BMW. My natural question, "A 1200?", "Yes, an LT" He then says again, "I can't get use to the long tail." to which I reply, "Yeah, but it rides great." He just looks at me with a blank stare for a second and says, "Well, nice chatting with you and enjoy your ride." I said "Enjoy your lunch." and departed.

So as I leave I get "lost" on the way home and it took me nearly and hour to find my way back to the house. As I rode I mentaly compared the ride to my old GL1200, and still find that I do things a lot different than I did on the Wing. One, I find myself rarely backing down on the Vision. There is a level of confidence it gives in its sure footedness as it strides down the highway. I manuever through traffic much differently and take opportunities that I would not normally take on the Wing. Also, I did some rough back road riding while I was "lost". Often there are dips and uneven washboards in the tight curves and straights, some where you'll feel the wheel leave the ground. I found myself riding rather aggressively on these roads with the Vision, something I would never do on the Wing. I find that I never have to change foot positions on the Vision, as my normal comfortable ride is in ready reach of the controls. On the Wing it was constantly shifting from highway boards to foot pegs and positioning my foot to be ever ready to brake, up/downshift in turns and straights. The Vision handled the washboard very well and stay stable on the road throughout. It had a "stuck to the road" feel as it round the turns with the bumps. It was a most enjoyable ride and wish I hadn't found home so soon.

The Vision, and I've said this before, is a true man and machine experience. It feels like it knows what I want, when I want and how I want it. It response to what I tell it.

So I ask this question of you fellow Vision riders, "How do you describe the riding experience, truly in words that people understand?" It is easy to say it rides great, it's the best thing I've ridden; there's nothing like it out there to compare it with; I believe it delievers the best ride available. Or do you think it simply rides just as good as something else you have ridden, and my imagination is running away with me.

I like to hear how do you decribe it so people can understand?
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graybeard
Posted 2008-03-02 4:47 PM (#6131 - in reply to #6130)
Subject: Re: How do you describe?


Cruiser

Posts: 177
NW Illinois
I tell people the ride is what sold me, that it rides awsome
But I truely believe the only way for them to know and understand is to ride it
Your imagination is only running because you are having so much fun and you have that silly smile on your face that others will only know once they have experianced it
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SongFan
Posted 2008-03-02 6:38 PM (#6141 - in reply to #6130)
Subject: RE: How do you describe?


Visionary

Posts: 3204
Memphis

The word I keep coming back to is "intuitive". It does everything like you think it should. It accelerates exactly like you want it to. It's brakes feel right on. When people say it tracks through corners like it's on rails, it's not just a saying. It really feels like that.

Every other bike I've ridden reminds me that I'm perched up on a motorcycle and it is either going to tip over on me in a parking lot or become a target on the open road. You literally become a part of the Vision. I am so comfortable and confident on it that a lot of the other things I used to worry about are no longer a factor. How long are my knees and hips going to last before I'm looking (or wishing) for the highway pegs? Weather used to be a major concern. Now it is just another part of the day that is easily dealt with. I am much more relaxed in traffic because I'm not fighting a wicked buffet from the cars and trucks around me. Uneven road surface are no factor. The Vision is so high viz that people seem to notice me way before I would normally be noticed on a motorcycle. The lighting is fantastic for a stock bike. The idiot in front of me will really regret it if I have to go to the high beams.

You think it, the Vision will deliver it for you. Turns require basically no input on the handlebars. Just a slight flick of the hips and you are changing lanes. Even a 20 mph twisty road (taken at 40 mph) only needs the slightest input on your part. Once you set the track, relax. The Vision is much more responsive to relaxed hands as opposed to a tight grip.

My sense of awareness is greatly enhanced because I'm not thinking about the limitations of the bike. I'm no longer at the mercy of the elements. I'm just thinking about the ride and how cool it feels.

It almost seems to respond to thoughts. Intuitive. I have no idea how BUCKEYE and Pollolittle can ride a Vision. If I was that ADD I'd be all over the place.

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varyder
Posted 2008-03-02 7:01 PM (#6142 - in reply to #6141)
Subject: RE: How do you describe?


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
LOL - that's what I'm afraid of, that I'll have an attack while riding.

SongFan - 2008-03-02 6:38 PM

I have no idea how BUCKEYE and Pollolittle can ride a Vision. If I was that ADD I'd be all over the place.
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cjnoho
Posted 2008-03-02 8:22 PM (#6143 - in reply to #6130)
Subject: Re: How do you describe?


Visionary

Posts: 1324
So Cal
I was at a fast food place for lunch thursday. I noticed an older, inline 4 cyl. (no fairing, no rad.) setup cafe style. While in line, the owner asked me about my Vision? He saw them at a bike show. I told him that I loved the bike, had a HD collecting dust since I bought it. I told him the handling takes some getting used to because its very responsive, but once you do its like your wearing it. He liked my analogy as much as the bike.
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edradio
Posted 2008-03-02 10:26 PM (#6146 - in reply to #6130)
Subject: RE: How do you describe?


Cruiser

Posts: 150
Las Vegas, Nevada USA baby!
I agree with SongFan. Since my test ride a month ago, I've used the word intuitive and telepathic input handling.

This weekend was, still is windy (typically 25-30 mph, gusting up past 45-50mph) here in SoNev, and although I do feel it somewhat on the Vision, It doesn't make me concentrate too much on fighting the wind.

I find myself having to not get too... for lack of a better word; "dancy" when listening to music because the Vision starts to get jiggy with it too! I had a police follow me for a bit, checking me out when I was bopping along with some cool jazz song. I think he might've thought I had been drinking. Of course I stopped being "dancy" with the music, and since he could hear my jazz coming from the bike, he made a U-turn and went away!

So INTUITIVE comes to mind as well as Telepathic Input Handling!

EdRadio

Edited by edradio 2008-03-02 10:28 PM
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Indiana RoadRunner
Posted 2008-03-02 10:59 PM (#6147 - in reply to #6130)
Subject: RE: How do you describe?


Tourer

Posts: 332
Dale, Indiana
varyder - 2008-03-02 3:21 PM
So I ask this question of you fellow Vision riders, "How do you describe the riding experience, truly in words that people understand?" It is easy to say it rides great, it's the best thing I've ridden; there's nothing like it out there to compare it with; I believe it delievers the best ride available. Or do you think it simply rides just as good as something else you have ridden, and my imagination is running away with me.

I like to hear how do you decribe it so people can understand?

I being a novice since my last bike was a 750 Honda, and that was about 20 years ago; I cannot compare my old bike, or compare my past rides.
However, I am at the 600-mile mark on my new Vision and I can say I do believe the bike makes me look good. As I posted before I was scared to death the first time I went out the driveway.
Now I look at where I want to go and ride!

I rode down through Kentucky today with 3 other experienced riders on those Scenic Byways. God those corners were fun. Plus I kept right with the others. I did slow down more then they did at times when I wasn't sure of the whole curve.

Towns and stoplights are ok now. I can ride really slow if needed without foot dragging like I did at first because I was chicken. Turns are becoming second nature and I can do u-turns on any narrow street.

I guess I am saying; the Visions are a big bike, but it handles easy enough for we new old guys.
I believe it's because of the lower seat, well balanced design, and not having that big bulky feel like I thought it might have.


Back to the ride, I like the cockpit feel when cruising around corners (it feels like a cockpit to me when I have my full-face helmet on anyways).
I feel like I am flying a spaceship fighter at low level when I corner. Ok I admit I am a Star Wars movie fan.

Additionally, I took the lead during half of today's riding and I ask the others if I looked like an old grandma riding up front or not. They said I rode just fine and looked no different then someone with many miles under his belt.


GOD I LOVED RIDING TODAY!
It was one of my best day in some time. It was relaxing and mind clearing.
Me being a workaholic I feel I finally have a life! I am tired of working working and more working to just buy toys that I haven't the time to play with. My problem in the past I always get bored when I play and I go back working harder because My job is what I am … as silly as that sounds.

My plans are to visit the Victory factory and meet all the Vision riders I can. I plan on many many more Sunday rides, and my summer vacation is going to be me on my Vision.
The darn thing is just a breeze to ride, and again it's just relaxing.

Must say I sure do enjoy how most (and I said most) biker's wave at other bikers like we're all old fiends.
I did notice though.
Four bikers never waved; heck I was side-by-side one on a 4-lane in Evansville, IN. last Saturday. He wouldn't even turn his head. He like the others were Harley riders.
Now I am not knocking Harley riders since the other 100 or so waved. I just noticed that the only ones that never waved just rode along like they had a corncob up the butts!

Now if they were as proud of their bike like I am of mine, I'd be waving at everybody. Oh well there will always be a few stuck-up nimrods in every crowd.

Oh yeah, I do feel I am causing some riders to get distracted. Some almost don't wave because they're trying to figure out what the heck I am sitting on. At one of our stops today and older guy in a minivan pulled up just to ask "what is that thing"?
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sandman
Posted 2008-03-03 7:43 AM (#6156 - in reply to #6130)
Subject: Re: How do you describe?


Cruiser

Posts: 294
rhode island
Great looking rig Tim!
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varyder
Posted 2008-03-03 8:37 AM (#6162 - in reply to #6147)
Subject: RE: How do you describe?


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
IRR, thanks for that input. As I mentioned in my post that it seems like my imagination is running wild when I ride this fine machine and want to confirm this is truly revolutionary. I didn't ride for over twenty years and the last thing I was on then was a Honda 750 Custom. That was basically my first bike and when I went through a divorce so that is all I had to ride. Fast forward 20 years and I finally got the 1984 Goldwing I always wanted, however, she was old, rode nice, but old. I like to ride, not fix 'em up, so I had to get something newer. Then I got a Vision, and what a Victory it was.

I also have a passion for the open road, I'm a son of a trucker and I have put on enough miles to catch the bug. But, the Lord has other plans for me for the time being so I drive from my desk behind a computer. One day I'll hit the open road with my Vision on the deck.
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pollolittle
Posted 2008-03-03 9:06 AM (#6166 - in reply to #6130)
Subject: Re: How do you describe?


Visionary

Posts: 2027
Brighton, TN
Songfan if you are not careful you get your own VESPA- with a really tall windshield. Your probably right the machine probably looks like it has ADD also. Darting this way then that way. Wheelies on demand, tight cornering, then full throttle runs, WHat a RIDE! Just glad it does what all three of us want at the same time. Me, the wife, and some other voice that keeps hanging around.
How would I describe it.
For Men - Do you remember the wild and crazy, hottie that rocked your world long before you met your wife? You could do things in that relationship that most mortal men would not even have the chance to dream up? C'mon you know what I'm talking about, where when you would stand up, pound your chest like a crazed caveman shouting to the world, I am homosapien, here me ROAR! This is a definitive point in every man's world where your existence is known throughout your inner circle. Just like the above example, this has to be the next best thing to pound your chest about. It is AWESOME!
For ladies - It is like taking a stroll with your lover through a park with ducks to feed and peace and serenity all around you! The ride is easy enough to set your mind at ease and relieve you of all the things going on back home. Stress relieving therapy! Gentle and kind with just a little badness to get your motor going again, if need be.
For all those who just don't get it, go pound your chest a little and see what I mean.
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varyder
Posted 2008-03-03 9:16 AM (#6168 - in reply to #6143)
Subject: Re: How do you describe?


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
cjnoho - 2008-03-02 8:22 PM

I was at a fast food place for lunch thursday. I noticed an older, inline 4 cyl. (no fairing, no rad.) setup cafe style. While in line, the owner asked me about my Vision? He saw them at a bike show. I told him that I loved the bike, had a HD collecting dust since I bought it. I told him the handling takes some getting used to because its very responsive, but once you do its like your wearing it. He liked my analogy as much as the bike.


I've heard it said that you sit on a motorcycle, whatever brand it may be, but you sit in a Vision. I gues that is like slipping a glove on your hand...

Keep those deep thoughts coming.

Chicken Little, fortunately, later in life I was able to marry a girl that still keeps me pounding on my chest...
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PalmBeachRider
Posted 2008-03-03 9:56 AM (#6170 - in reply to #6130)
Subject: Re: How do you describe?


Cruiser

Posts: 256
Florida
During a rain shower I pulled into a Harley dealer where they had a covered parking area. There were a few H-D owners wiping down their bikes. They asked why I wasn't doing it...wasn't I afraid of getting water spots?

It's nice not being a slave to your bike.
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BUCKEYE
Posted 2008-03-03 11:17 AM (#6177 - in reply to #6130)
Subject: Re: How do you describe?


Iron Butt

Posts: 904
29 Palms California
songfan, I have fits of sanity. My medication and keen sense of whats right, wrong or stupid always bursts forth in a fit of reality. Intuative? Ah come on...thats a sassy little word that a highschool cheerleader uses. MASTERFULL! Now thats how I describe my Visions riding experience...PRIMAL and MASTERFULL!. Poot, did you forget to medicate? Songfan has been voted in as Secretary Under Vice Vespa. Think you find him and his intuative self an orange safety vest and hockey helmet?
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pollolittle
Posted 2008-03-03 11:43 AM (#6185 - in reply to #6130)
Subject: Re: How do you describe?


Visionary

Posts: 2027
Brighton, TN
Sorry I have already appointed SandintheCrevicesJim as Hottie Secretary (have you seen his gallery photos) OOOHHL LA LA! From the backside, man what a shirt. He's scaret to show his face. So unless you are appointing Songfan as the Vice Vespa's Secretary (Never had me a Secretary before) we may have to find him another position. FYI, he is really big dude so don't know if I am so comfortable with calling him my secretary. Maybe I call him Mantary! Since he likes to ride a lot, maybe we stick him in as official Rough Rider. Rough people up and stuff. Me thinks he some kind of air dude too, so I dunno!
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DesertJim
Posted 2008-03-03 12:04 PM (#6187 - in reply to #6130)
Subject: Re: How do you describe?


Tourer

Posts: 496
Scottsdale AZ
I have formally accepted the Secretary position, thank you, so don't be givin it away so quick. i have a name plate and everything. However, I will honorably also take on the position of the "compliance officer" to keep the house in order. I once was a "Karate Kid" so I qualify on one leg, balanced and ready to strike and keep the Vespateers in order and of sound mind. The first order of attention is to see that the new "Sargent at Arms", Buknkn, newly elected, is in full dress, and no not a skirt like before, full military issue!!! and without the stupid orange vest. How does his family take it? I think I got him listening to country instead of Foo Foos, or whatever they are.
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SongFan
Posted 2008-03-03 12:35 PM (#6190 - in reply to #6130)
Subject: RE: How do you describe?


Visionary

Posts: 3204
Memphis

I'll be the Vision Liaison Officer. "Gee officer, I can surely see why you stopped us but no, they are not intoxicated. These new bikes are so responsive that they actually respond to brainwaves and my buddies here have a few too many voices going off at once. Yes sir, I promise to get everyone home in one piece. Thank you sir, have a nice day. Pardon? Oh, they're the new Victory Visions. Never heard of it? Well, check this out......"

Sorry about the fancy word BUCKEYE, but the Vision "Go-Between" Officer didn't sound as important.

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pollolittle
Posted 2008-03-03 1:07 PM (#6193 - in reply to #6130)
Subject: Re: How do you describe?


Visionary

Posts: 2027
Brighton, TN
HEHEHEHEHe LMAO! Now that right there is down right funny, I don't care who ya are! He's using fancy words on the BuckN8kd. There are online dictionaries if you are unable to figure out what Liaison means. MUUUUAAHHH!
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BUCKEYE
Posted 2008-03-04 1:54 PM (#6266 - in reply to #6130)
Subject: Re: How do you describe?


Iron Butt

Posts: 904
29 Palms California
figure it out, i can't even spell it.
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pollolittle
Posted 2008-03-04 2:37 PM (#6267 - in reply to #6130)
Subject: Re: How do you describe?


Visionary

Posts: 2027
Brighton, TN
Liaison - Redneck dictionary - l a zun - just hanging with fellow Victory Vision buddies and consuming appropriate beverage of choice.
Used in a sentence - The other day I was just liaison with BukcNakd, SandCamelJim, SongFan, and gents, seeing which couch (photo under Buckeye's gallery) we wuz gonna swing in this time.
Get R Dun! You might be a redneck if....
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