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lonestarrider
Posted 2010-01-24 11:21 PM (#51987)
Subject: Heal Toe Shifter


Cruiser

Posts: 104
I installed the Heal Toe Shifter on my Vision today, that I bought from Victory. And I don't like it!

If you lower the front to make it feel right the back is too high, or if you lower the back the front is to high. Plus the little nub on the back part of the shifter does not come out far enough.

It would be nice to have a shifter that you could adjust the front and back separately.

The only good thing I can say about it, is it looks pretty.

Anybody have any suggestions?
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wrr1home
Posted 2010-01-25 6:49 AM (#51995 - in reply to #51987)
Subject: RE: Heal Toe Shifter


Cruiser

Posts: 196

Make small adjustments...
You can adjust it from any of the three positions available...
I love mine and feel that it is one of the best of many additions to my ride!

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etspastimes
Posted 2010-01-25 9:04 AM (#52007 - in reply to #51987)
Subject: Re: Heal Toe Shifter


Tourer

Posts: 388
Salisbury, NC
I had to shorten the shifter rod to make it sit at the right height for front and back. ET
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Cometman
Posted 2010-01-25 12:02 PM (#52023 - in reply to #51987)
Subject: Re: Heal Toe Shifter


Tourer

Posts: 520
Simi Valley, CA
I love mine.... adjusted it to my liking- can not ride without one!
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mkultra
Posted 2010-01-25 12:48 PM (#52027 - in reply to #51987)
Subject: Re: Heal Toe Shifter


Tourer

Posts: 374
Tucson, AZ
I just put one on also, different than the ones on my Harleys but it just takes some time to get used to. It is a different part/animal than the adjustable one but I'm really getting to like it. I have mine in the middle position, the toe portion is higher than my previous one but didnt take long to get used to it....just my 2 cents...

mike
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TheLoveDoctor
Posted 2010-01-26 1:08 PM (#52107 - in reply to #51987)
Subject: RE: Heal Toe Shifter


Cruiser

Posts: 105
Columbia, TN United States
I had mine installed by the dealer before I took possession of my bike. I was used to the, far superior, in my opinion, heel toe on my Kawasaki Nomad. The Kaw had the factory two piece and you did not have to lift your heel to hit the heel shifter. Kaws engineers took a little time and thought before they made theirs. I am sure I will get used to the shifter on the Vision, but I do not think they "engineered" the Victory shifter like they could have, they just extended it a little, put the little swivel riser on it and sent it out. But it is still new and I have only ridden it 700 miles since 12-29-09, when I picked it up. For $170, I would expect more than what I got. It is my only complaint about the bike, and it is a minor one.
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vic2004-08
Posted 2010-01-26 3:42 PM (#52112 - in reply to #51987)
Subject: Re: Heal Toe Shifter


Cruiser

Posts: 87
Lusby,Md
i did away with the 'block' on the heel part of the shifter and put a peg there instead,works for me.
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TheLoveDoctor
Posted 2010-01-26 6:11 PM (#52117 - in reply to #51987)
Subject: RE: Heal Toe Shifter


Cruiser

Posts: 105
Columbia, TN United States
The peg would seem to make more sense, or at least a flat extrusion of some sort.
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ElroyJ
Posted 2010-02-04 11:08 PM (#52695 - in reply to #51987)
Subject: Re: Heal Toe Shifter


Tourer

Posts: 460
Centennial, CO
I had the same problem. So, I did two things:

1. removed the chrome piece of $#!& and put the toe shifter from the original onto the back. It will screw right in.
2. I had to remove 3/8inch from the adjustment shaft. NOW, I have it set almost most directly in the middle. It barely touches in the back and doesn't touch at all in the front. So, it CAN be done!

Also, if you want the heal shifter a bit shorter, cut the rubber piece so it will slide off. Take the screwed in part back out of the bike and cut it down as you like. Then, take the rubber piece and cut to fit. I haven't done this yet...but its easy and I am sure it will work just fine with a bit of rubber cement. Others may disagree and have a better way of gluing it back together.
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TheLoveDoctor
Posted 2010-02-05 3:28 PM (#52727 - in reply to #51987)
Subject: RE: Heal Toe Shifter


Cruiser

Posts: 105
Columbia, TN United States
ElroyJ, could you post some pics? Thank you.
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glighto11
Posted 2010-02-05 4:11 PM (#52729 - in reply to #51987)
Subject: Re: Heal Toe Shifter


Iron Butt

Posts: 741
Central New York
Ditto TheLoveDoctor
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okthenbye
Posted 2010-02-05 7:15 PM (#52740 - in reply to #51987)
Subject: Re: Heal Toe Shifter


Cruiser

Posts: 266
Stockton, Ca.
in my experience I would suggest finding the best position for the rear first. Once you have that in a comfortable position it should be good to go. My biggest fear was the small protrusion for the rear would cause me to scuff the chrome side case of the motor. I can say that the protrusion is actually large enough to be effective and very comfortable allowing more space for the feet on the large driver floorboards. No scuff marks either. The front is slightly higher than would be comfortable if not a heel toe shifter. But it is! The front is used for first gear and down shifting which usually requires slightly lifting the foot anyway. I like mine and am very used to it now.
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Big Vic
Posted 2010-02-06 8:12 AM (#52756 - in reply to #51987)
Subject: Re: Heal Toe Shifter


Iron Butt

Posts: 619
Southeast Iowa
+1
Set the rear position to where you like it and live with where ever the toe position ends up. Most agree the toe is a little higher than they like but it works fine just the same.
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ElroyJ
Posted 2010-02-07 12:07 AM (#52792 - in reply to #51987)
Subject: Re: Heal Toe Shifter


Tourer

Posts: 460
Centennial, CO
OK and BV - I must say that I am not a fan of "live with it" answers. Thank God we all have our own views. Makes life MUCH more interesting! I am glad you both like yours that way. I DID like the look of the chrome heal shifter over the look I have now. But the comfort over visual is what I was after.

Doclove - will post some pics. It will be later this next week...I am not in a position to do it this weekend! I will get some up!

Back to the original thought (live with it). I find that the chrome piece that was built by Victory looks nice. But to me it is WAY too high and causes me to lift my heal too high for comfort OR my toe too high for comfort if the heal is lowered. It reminded me of the way that all of the HDs have their HT shifters configured. I hated them and decided I would ensure I could have more comfort. Well, turns out, that is why I bought a Vision...more comfort! LOL!

The front and rear positions are darn near equal in height from the floor board. About an inch I would guess without looking at it. The front is so low that there is no way to get my toe under it. The transmission actually works quite well with this setup. Pushing the front down to engage a gear causes the toe shifter to be about a 16th of an inch from the board. I set my heal to shift just as it touches. I have had NO issues with it. VERY comfy!

Edited by ElroyJ 2010-02-07 12:09 AM
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shane6727
Posted 2010-02-07 3:32 AM (#52796 - in reply to #51987)
Subject: RE: Heal Toe Shifter


Cruiser

Posts: 154
I used a king pin heel toe shifter that has a peg and works awesome and looks even better..
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CowboyVision
Posted 2010-02-07 5:57 AM (#52797 - in reply to #51987)
Subject: Re: Heal Toe Shifter


Cruiser

Posts: 126
Meadow, Texas
Same here about using a peg for the rear. When I first got my Vision, I told the dealer I wanted a heel-toe shifter and she told me that she would suggest putting a peg on the rear, and I said okay. Seems to work great so I would suggest doing that if you are having problems.
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Big Vic
Posted 2010-02-07 8:19 AM (#52810 - in reply to #51987)
Subject: Re: Heal Toe Shifter


Iron Butt

Posts: 619
Southeast Iowa
I have the Arlen Ness floorboards that mount on top on the stock floorboards. They are about a 1/2" thick which changes the distance relative to the heel toe shifter. (brings your foot closer to both) Actually this set-up works out really well for me and I don't really feel like I'm having to "live with" anything. I have set the rear of my shifter exactly where I want it. In a perfect world I might want to lower the front about 1/4" to slightly reduce the gap between the peg and my size 15 boot. So, this 1/4" is the hell that I am living with. I wish everything else on the Vision was within 1/4" of perfection for me.
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Dimonback
Posted 2010-02-07 9:32 AM (#52817 - in reply to #51987)
Subject: Re: Heal Toe Shifter


Cruiser

Posts: 127
Kingpin heel/toe shifter here too. Much better than the Vision part, and found on Ebay for $60. Then did the Kury Iso peg for the front (and the brake pedal) and a 1-1/2" moose racing stub for the rear. Works perfectly, leaves plenty of room on the floorboard.
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ElroyJ
Posted 2010-02-07 8:30 PM (#52877 - in reply to #52810)
Subject: Re: Heal Toe Shifter


Tourer

Posts: 460
Centennial, CO
BV - I can see why you would have issues with the HT shifter. But those with stock Vision boards, well...
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