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radial
Posted 2013-06-17 5:43 AM (#140585 - in reply to #140395)
Subject: Re: 2-Up Riding


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 21
Columbus OH
Ha! You nailed it. I'm a Harley wannabe. I guess I'll go trade in my Vic for a Sportster.


Look, all I wanted was info and experience from fellow Cross riders. What I got was cute remarks from Visionaries telling me I don't know how to ride.

Y'all ride safe. I'm done.
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Street Eagle
Posted 2013-06-17 7:38 AM (#140586 - in reply to #139266)
Subject: Re: 2-Up Riding


Iron Butt

Posts: 691
Manchester, CT
Hey Radial

Don't let those folks get to you. I too sometime wonder why editorial comments need to be shared when someone is reaching out to the forum for help and advise. Granted, there are forums that focus on specific models but that shouldn't prohibit folks to respond constructively.

I've learned a LOT from the awesome folks on this forum. The only thing I regret is the forum is costing me more and more money!!! I am having engine upgrades done as soon as Lloydz gets my parts in
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Tims_11Vision
Posted 2013-06-20 8:07 AM (#140711 - in reply to #139373)
Subject: Re: 2-Up Riding


Cruiser

Posts: 143
Lexington Park, MD
radial - 2013-05-22 9:19 AM

Yeh, I appreciate the thought, but I am not a novice. I've riddden 2-up for years on different bikes as well - SoftTail, Dyna Sport, Valkyrie, Bonnevilles way back . This bike is different. Sure, I can handle it, it's just that the point of no return tip angle -you know what I mean- is very limited.
I'm looking for set up suggestions to improve this. Lowering? Tires? Shock set up?
C'mon, I can't be the only one who's noticed this.
BTW, the Vision is not the XR.

Hey Radial, just curious on a couple things. I helped on a demo day at our dealer and road 3 different Xbikes and they all handled different it seemed at the stop.

What's our height/inseam? Possible aftermarket seat may help?
Back rest or not?
Are you flat footed on both feet at the light? At 5'8' I am usually one foot solid one on the toe
Gas tank full when experiencing this the worst? Roughly 6 pounds to the gallon. I know that was the first thing I noticed during the demo day on the X bikes since the visions tanks are lower.
Anything in your Saddle bags? Have you tried adding 10 pounds to the. Bags to see what happens
Set your shock pressure to the specs. My buddy rides a XCT and was commenting his was spot on for handling
Tires at 40/41
Hows your handlebars feel to you (don't recall if adjustable or not)

I'm certain everyone's wanting to help here, I understand what your going through from when I bought my TC. I think like you've already mentioned its a combination and configuration.

Safe ridin, Tim
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radial
Posted 2013-07-01 9:13 AM (#141112 - in reply to #140711)
Subject: Re: 2-Up Riding


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 21
Columbus OH
Tims 11,

Thanks for the input. I've tried a couple of things. I'm 6', my wife is 5'9", we're combined about 330 Lbs.
I usually start out with a full tank.

I've got the tires set to spec, only 10 psi in the shock, and I added weight to the bags. I have solid stainless steel bars in the bags that lie very low and flat in the bags, about 15 lbs per side.

Took a ride on some twisties in Southern Ohio this weekend. What an improvement! Sure, there's added weight, but it lowered the CG enough to make a huge difference. Stops and tight turns are almost the same as solo. Riding 2-up is not a battle any more. It's almost hard to believe the weight made that much of a change, but it did.

I'd recommend adding some weight LOW in the bags to any Cross rider that has felt uneasy with a pasenger.

Thank you for the tip.

Ride safe,
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Tims_11Vision
Posted 2013-07-01 2:14 PM (#141131 - in reply to #139266)
Subject: Re: 2-Up Riding


Cruiser

Posts: 143
Lexington Park, MD
Glad to hear you got it bro! I know I NEVER noticed the weight of that fuel tank until jumping back on the TC after riding the Vision for a while. Not having a trunk on it I didnt feel what you did but I know during the Demo day it was differnt feeling to me. Sounds like an easy trick to keep your steed in balance. Safe ridin out there!!!
Tim
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