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gottavision
Posted 2012-07-03 8:18 AM (#118349)
Subject: Vision challenge, air shock.


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 49
Riding to work today and seemed like I was riding lower. Suddenly, bottom of bike bottomed out, pulled over no flat, pumped air shock up to 50 still low. What do you think it is?
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varyder
Posted 2012-07-03 8:49 AM (#118350 - in reply to #118349)
Subject: Re: Vision challenge, air shock.


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
Vision is low. Check again in an hour to see where it is. Remember, you lose about 3 to 5 lbs everytime you check it, unless you be quick...
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gottavision
Posted 2012-07-03 10:21 AM (#118354 - in reply to #118349)
Subject: Re: Vision challenge, air shock.


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 49
After I pumped it to 50 it didn't go up at all. Still riding low.
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opas ride
Posted 2012-07-03 10:38 AM (#118355 - in reply to #118349)
Subject: Re: Vision challenge, air shock.


Tourer

Posts: 500
Leak in fill valve or the seal is shot and you need a new one is my guess......
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varyder
Posted 2012-07-03 11:32 AM (#118356 - in reply to #118349)
Subject: Re: Vision challenge, air shock.


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
So, is there 50psi in the shock now, or zero?
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Arkainzeye
Posted 2012-07-03 12:55 PM (#118362 - in reply to #118349)
Subject: Re: Vision challenge, air shock.


Visionary

Posts: 3773
Pittsburgh, PA
Pumping air into the shock does Not raise the bike. It stiffens the ride....
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varyder
Posted 2012-07-03 1:00 PM (#118363 - in reply to #118349)
Subject: Re: Vision challenge, air shock.


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
....uh....mmmm....never mind ....
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SteveS
Posted 2012-07-03 5:35 PM (#118389 - in reply to #118349)
Subject: RE: Vision challenge, air shock.


Cruiser

Posts: 154
Danbury, Connecticut
Any new noises associated with condition. Look underneath on swing arm, left side is the shock clevis and the right side is the push rod-make sure bolts are in them-if ok, look under seat & you can see the rocker arm (think see-saw)-shock on one side & push rod on the other side of the rocker, look for something broken - if all that stuff is good perhaps the shock locked up somehow.
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johnnyvision
Posted 2012-07-03 5:53 PM (#118392 - in reply to #118349)
Subject: Re: Vision challenge, air shock.


Visionary

Posts: 4278
Do you have a air pump witha gauge on it so you know how much your putting in
Spit on the air valve to see if air is leaking
Bottom of shock is it wet like lossed it fluid
Pull seat pump air in shock spay water or baby power on house and see if it leaks
You will not see bike lift when pumping in air.
Never use a air compressor ti fill shock you'll blow it out for sure
It would be all most imposable for a bolt to come out
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eddieb177
Posted 2012-07-04 6:42 AM (#118421 - in reply to #118349)
Subject: Re: Vision challenge, air shock.


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 26
Philly Pa.
I keep hearing it does not raise the bike when you put air in the shocks when it does raise the bike and stiffen the ride. I watch the bike go up when I put air in my shocks and I do use a air pump. just have to be carefull with it.I ride with about 37 to 40 psi's in...
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gottavision
Posted 2012-07-04 7:59 AM (#118429 - in reply to #118349)
Subject: Re: Vision challenge, air shock.


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 49
I let all air out of shock, then put air back in shock, it reads 50 psi. doesn't seem to be leaking. Bike still about 1.5 inches off ground. Feels like I have no shocks over bumps. Still way to low. When I let up on throttle it sounds like jets whistling over head. What the h---ll? My buddy comin over to look at it.
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varyder
Posted 2012-07-04 9:24 AM (#118438 - in reply to #118349)
Subject: Re: Vision challenge, air shock.


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
Pictures would help. I think you have a broken something or nother. Do not ride the bike until you find what it is. Check your swing arm, should be bolts on both sides toward the front. Remove the seat and look in the hole through the frame and see if anything is broke there.
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gottavision
Posted 2012-07-04 9:32 AM (#118439 - in reply to #118349)
Subject: Re: Vision challenge, air shock.


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 49
Buddy came over, diagnosed in 5 seconds. Suspension lowering link bolt snapped. I had bike lowered 2" in back, last year. He said, " because the suspension does not have as much room to travel, the ride is a little stiffer and places a bit more stress on that bolt." Thank God it didn't happen on my big trip in August. Still love the lower ride. He is going to use stronger bolt and reinforce the suspension link. Stronger bolt should have been used when changing out that lowering link.


Steve S. from Danbury Conn. is the winner his response right on. Here is his Quote "Any new noises associated with condition. Look underneath on swing arm, left side is the shock clevis and the right side is the push rod-make sure bolts are in them-if ok, look under seat & you can see the rocker arm (think see-saw)-shock on one side & push rod on the other side of the rocker, look for something broken - if all that stuff is good perhaps the shock locked up somehow."



Thanks Guys!

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opas ride
Posted 2012-07-04 1:25 PM (#118450 - in reply to #118349)
Subject: Re: Vision challenge, air shock.


Tourer

Posts: 500
I know it raises the bike from my own experience, or I am nuts...I am 72 and getting down to check/air up rear tire can be a little difficult...I was told by a tech guy at the demo day rides here a couple months ago to air up to 50/60psi the rear shock to help raise rear of bike to get easier access to rear valve stem....Seems to work for me and makes the job a whole lot easier for me.....Again could just be my imagination, but it for sure makes the jpb a little less hassle...Some say a 1/4" does not mean much but......in some situations it does......

Edited by opas ride 2012-07-04 1:30 PM
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eddieb177
Posted 2012-07-05 6:34 AM (#118512 - in reply to #118349)
Subject: Re: Vision challenge, air shock.


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 26
Philly Pa.
No your not nuts the bike is raised when you add air.. when I first got my bike it had no air in the rear shocks when I added air up the back end of the bike went. Would not make any sense if it didn't.
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eddieb177
Posted 2012-07-05 6:53 AM (#118514 - in reply to #118439)
Subject: Re: Vision challenge, air shock.


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 26
Philly Pa.
gottavision - 2012-07-04 9:32 AM

Buddy came over, diagnosed in 5 seconds. Suspension lowering link bolt snapped. I had bike lowered 2" in back, last year.



Thanks Guys!


How low did lowering your back end take your seat Height too... My seat height is 24.50 on my vision 8 ball 2011. wanted to get full size vision but lover that seat height on the 8 ball.
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eddieb177
Posted 2012-07-05 6:56 AM (#118515 - in reply to #118349)
Subject: Re: Vision challenge, air shock.


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 26
Philly Pa.
correction.. that would be loved that seat height
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gottavision
Posted 2012-07-05 7:34 AM (#118519 - in reply to #118349)
Subject: Re: Vision challenge, air shock.


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 49
I loved the seat height on 8 ball as well. My full size vision is now lower than 8 ball. Bike was lowered 2" plus I put the Arlen Ness seat which is as deep as the 8 ball seat. That seat is another 1" lower than regular seat.
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eddieb177
Posted 2012-07-05 9:24 AM (#118539 - in reply to #118349)
Subject: Re: Vision challenge, air shock.


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 26
Philly Pa.
so you are sitting at about 23.50 seat height wow thats good have to remember that looking at the cross roads they have a seat lowering kit too
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