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Arkainzeye
Posted 2012-04-08 8:37 PM (#111742)
Subject: DarkSide (A.B.S.)


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I ran the darkside on my 2008 Vision. I now have a 2011 vision and i was reading the service manual tonight and there was a section about the brakes and the (ABS) system and keeping the tire size the same. has anyone gone to the darkside with a vision with ABS?
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willtill
Posted 2012-04-09 3:28 AM (#111753 - in reply to #111742)
Subject: Re: DarkSide (A.B.S.)


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Central Maryland
Not yet, but I am contemplating it at this time....
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Arkainzeye
Posted 2012-04-09 7:48 AM (#111758 - in reply to #111742)
Subject: Re: DarkSide (A.B.S.)


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so far, i read its NOT a issue on the goldwings with ABS...
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Lotzafun
Posted 2012-04-09 12:18 PM (#111783 - in reply to #111742)
Subject: Re: DarkSide (A.B.S.)


Iron Butt

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Rockford, IL
Can't think of a reason to not do it. I mean it might change the "pulse" of the ABS system by a few hundred thousandths......so what.
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Arkainzeye
Posted 2012-04-09 1:00 PM (#111784 - in reply to #111742)
Subject: Re: DarkSide (A.B.S.)


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thanks.. the reason i posed it was i read of this happening to cars. one guy had the same size tires front and rear. well he needed rear tire replaced so he found a set on sale that wasnt the same "height" but he thought it wouldnt matter. afterwards he said simple easy braking made the abs engage... so i was just a litle wondered that a different diameter rear tire (over than OEM) might throw off the math of the abs system... from what i rear the 3 closest (very close) sizes to oem is 175/60 185/60 & 195/55
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Arkainzeye
Posted 2012-04-09 1:00 PM (#111785 - in reply to #111742)
Subject: Re: DarkSide (A.B.S.)


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thanks.. the reason i posed it was i read of this happening to cars. one guy had the same size tires front and rear. well he needed rear tire replaced so he found a set on sale that wasnt the same "height" but he thought it wouldnt matter. afterwards he said simple easy braking made the abs engage... so i was just a litle wondered that a different diameter rear tire (over than OEM) might throw off the math of the abs system... from what i rear the 3 closest (very close) sizes to oem is 175/60 185/60 & 195/55
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Thomas
Posted 2012-04-09 4:45 PM (#111799 - in reply to #111785)
Subject: Re: DarkSide (A.B.S.)


Central Wisconsin

Arkainzeye - 2012-04-09 1:00 PM thanks.. the reason i posed it was i read of this happening to cars. one guy had the same size tires front and rear. well he needed rear tire replaced so he found a set on sale that wasnt the same "height" but he thought it wouldnt matter. afterwards he said simple easy braking made the abs engage... so i was just a litle wondered that a different diameter rear tire (over than OEM) might throw off the math of the abs system... from what i rear the 3 closest (very close) sizes to oem is 175/60 185/60 & 195/55

1st tire on the chart is the factory E3 MT.

2nd tire is the Dunlop SP Winter Sport CT .

3rd tire is the Bridgestone Potenza G019 Grid CT .

4th tire is the Bridgestone Potenza G019 Grid CT .

I have a 2009 so I can't say for sure if the ABS would be affected in anyway.  

Specification Sidewall Radius Diameter Circumference Revolutions Speedometer Odometer Difference
180/60-16 4.3" 12.3" 24.5" 77.0" 823/mi 60MPH 10000mi N/A
175/60-16 4.1" 12.1" 24.3" 76.2" 831/mi 61MPH 10097mi -1.0%
185/55-16 4.0" 12.0" 24.0" 75.4" 840/mi 61MPH 10205mi -2.0%
195/55-16 4.2" 12.2" 24.4" 76.8" 825/mi 60MPH 10024mi -0.2%








         
         
         


Edited by Thomas 2012-04-09 4:50 PM
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Arkainzeye
Posted 2012-04-09 4:59 PM (#111801 - in reply to #111742)
Subject: Re: DarkSide (A.B.S.)


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Pittsburgh, PA
it looks like the 175/60-16 is the closest match IF you want to install a Hitch down the road.... i heard you cant install a hitch if you use a 195/55-16?
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Thomas
Posted 2012-04-09 10:25 PM (#111835 - in reply to #111801)
Subject: Re: DarkSide (A.B.S.)


Central Wisconsin

Arkainzeye - 2012-04-09 4:59 PM it looks like the 175/60-16 is the closest match IF you want to install a Hitch down the road.... i heard you cant install a hitch if you use a 195/55-16?

Right...the 175/60/16 works well with a hitch doc and the speedometer/odometer is fairly accurate too.

A 195/55/16 will rub slightly on the top inside of the hitch doc, depending on rear air shock pressure amounts.

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Arkainzeye
Posted 2012-04-10 6:47 AM (#111849 - in reply to #111742)
Subject: Re: DarkSide (A.B.S.)


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Pittsburgh, PA
im Learning alot here..... Thank you! im more than likely going to order a 175/60-16 good year ASSurance fuel max.. i have a goldwing buddy that said he went from a 195 ct to a 175 on his 2010 wing and he claims the 175 is "easier" to turn and lean. So much so that he doesnt want to ever go back to a 195.
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Turk
Posted 2012-04-10 8:37 AM (#111857 - in reply to #111849)
Subject: Re: DarkSide (A.B.S.)


Iron Butt

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That Goodyear does not appear to have a symmetrical tread pattern....

Edited by Turk 2012-04-10 8:37 AM
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Arkainzeye
Posted 2012-04-10 8:48 AM (#111859 - in reply to #111857)
Subject: Re: DarkSide (A.B.S.)


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Pittsburgh, PA
Turk - 2012-04-10 8:37 AM

That Goodyear does not appear to have a symmetrical tread pattern....


is that important?
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Turk
Posted 2012-04-10 3:17 PM (#111886 - in reply to #111859)
Subject: Re: DarkSide (A.B.S.)


Iron Butt

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Honestly, I don't know, but I would 'guess' so....
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kris1956
Posted 2012-04-10 4:34 PM (#111894 - in reply to #111886)
Subject: Re: DarkSide (A.B.S.)


Iron Butt

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I don't know if it will affect motorcycles but it will cause problems with cars. The rotational differential is affected in cars.
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Arkainzeye
Posted 2012-04-10 6:36 PM (#111903 - in reply to #111742)
Subject: Re: DarkSide (A.B.S.)


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Pittsburgh, PA
in the 2011 vision service manual in section 15.32 this is the part that started my thread. Here is what it said. i just wanted to share and explain why i started this thread.

Operating with non-recommended tire or improper tire pressure may reduce the effectiveness of the anti lock brake system.

then

Always install the recommended size and type of tires specified for the vehicle.

Edited by Arkainzeye 2012-04-10 6:36 PM
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Arkainzeye
Posted 2012-04-10 8:29 PM (#111915 - in reply to #111742)
Subject: Re: DarkSide (A.B.S.)


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Pittsburgh, PA
great price http://www.onlinetires.com/products/vehicle/tires/goodyear/175%252F...
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Arkainzeye
Posted 2012-04-10 8:38 PM (#111917 - in reply to #111857)
Subject: Re: DarkSide (A.B.S.)


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Pittsburgh, PA
Turk - 2012-04-10 8:37 AM

That Goodyear does not appear to have a symmetrical tread pattern....


I honestly didnt know what that meant. so i looked it up. lol

http://blog.tirevan.com/2011/10/24/tire-tread-patterns-%E2%80%93-sy...
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