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sonicbluerider
Posted 2012-03-07 9:16 AM (#109397)
Subject: starter fluid?


Tourer

Posts: 576
, IA
Is it ok to use after a long winter storage
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glighto11
Posted 2012-03-07 9:35 AM (#109400 - in reply to #109397)
Subject: Re: starter fluid?


Iron Butt

Posts: 741
Central New York
Why? If the battery is charged, and if you bothered to put in some gas treatment last fall, it should fire right up.

If you were going to use 'starter fluid', where would you squirt it? I would think removing the air filter and filling the air box with ether could land the Vision next to the Space Station.
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buddahead
Posted 2012-03-07 10:34 AM (#109405 - in reply to #109397)
Subject: Re: starter fluid?


Cruiser

Posts: 238
SF Bay Area
If you turn on the ignition and let the fuel pump pressurize the injectors, the bike will start. I worked at a motorcycle dealership for many years and found that because an injected bike has a completely sealed fuel system, there is no gum or varnish in the fuel system. As mentioned, I also do not see any benefit from shooting ether into the intake tract, other than to singe your extremities. IMO, or course.
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varyder
Posted 2012-03-07 11:24 AM (#109411 - in reply to #109397)
Subject: Re: starter fluid?


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
I would love to hear a tech's answer to this, but for me, absolutely not. If you have problems starting your bike, you have other issues that need to be corrected first.
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kevinx
Posted 2012-03-07 11:45 AM (#109413 - in reply to #109397)
Subject: Re: starter fluid?


Visionary

Posts: 1340
Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators
Starting fluid is NEVER a good idea
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waterbug
Posted 2012-03-08 5:05 AM (#109476 - in reply to #109397)
Subject: Re: starter fluid?


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 48
Cicero, Indiana
Does anybody run sea foam in there bikes? I use half a can every other fill up on my venture and if I don't I can tell it when I put it back in. Seems to keep everything clean and it has a built in stabilizer as a plus.
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kris1956
Posted 2012-03-08 6:06 AM (#109479 - in reply to #109397)
Subject: Re: starter fluid?


Iron Butt

Posts: 1109
I know starter fluid in a bad idea in EFI cars, I would think the same is true in bikes.
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johnnyvision
Posted 2012-03-09 5:48 PM (#109652 - in reply to #109397)
Subject: Re: starter fluid?


Visionary

Posts: 4278
Like the man said turn bike on wait then shut it off and turn back on. That way you know the pump is full.
Now hit start button and it should fire right up. Then go for a good 25 mile ride to put the charge back in the battery you just used to start it.

If you buy your gas from a station that is popular with fill ups putting in sea foam ever other time is a waist of money.
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hulign
Posted 2012-03-12 9:39 AM (#109841 - in reply to #109476)
Subject: Re: starter fluid?


Cruiser

Posts: 79
waterbug - 2012-03-08 5:05 AM

Does anybody run sea foam in there bikes? I use half a can every other fill up on my venture and if I don't I can tell it when I put it back in. Seems to keep everything clean and it has a built in stabilizer as a plus.


The old Venture and Vmax carbs were picky and didn't like sitting at all. We had one friend that had the carbs gone thru 2x in one year by the dealer. Sea Foam was popular for the group. I never had a problem in my 2008 Venture but only owned it 1 season. It certainly wouldn't hurt but I doubt you need that much that often with the FI.

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handyhiker
Posted 2012-03-12 10:23 AM (#109846 - in reply to #109397)
Subject: Re: starter fluid?


Cruiser

Posts: 258
Akron, Ohio
I use Sea foam every so often, maybe 3 times a season. I only put in an ounce or two. Over winter I put in 3 or4 ounces and some Marvel Mistery oil. Also in the two to three ounce range. Fires right up in the spring.
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kris1956
Posted 2012-03-12 10:40 AM (#109847 - in reply to #109846)
Subject: Re: starter fluid?


Iron Butt

Posts: 1109
I use Lucas fuel treatment a few times a year in the bikes and the cars. Never have any problem.
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sgiacci
Posted 2012-03-12 10:48 AM (#109849 - in reply to #109413)
Subject: Re: starter fluid?


Tourer

Posts: 401
kevinx - 2012-03-07 11:45 AM

Starting fluid is NEVER a good idea


If you decide to ignore the tech, post pictures of the aftermath for us to admire.

Try starting the bike, then pull your spark plugs. See if they are wet, then check to see if you have spark at the plug, and at the wire

If the plugs are wet, and have spark, then fill your tank with gas and a little dry gas. Also swap out the plugs - they might be fouled.

If the plugs are dry, then your pump or injectors could have issues.

If the plugs are wet, and you have no spark. Then your problem is electrical (plugs, wires, fuses, ect).

Edited by sgiacci 2012-03-12 10:51 AM
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